Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

[G_O_D]

Eagle12 wrote:

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Where does it say that?
I would like to see the scripture where the bible says the “whole world.”
Yes, traditionally Christians believed it was the whole world. Some probably still do. But the bible didn’t say the “whole world.”
The mountains were probably covered in snow like they are today.

"And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered."

You never even read the Bible, did you ?

Why do you lie ?

[G_O_D]

KittenKoder wrote:

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You are correct, if you use the original Hebrew and not the modern translations:
http://www.noahs-ark-flood.com/creation.htm
Which also means it wasn't global.

Dang. You gave him an out. LOL

15 cubits (24 feet) is the height of the flood waters.

The Susquehanna river flood in 1973 was 27 feet. My cousin's two story home was submerged.

[KittenKoder]

G_O_D wrote:

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Dang. You gave him an out. LOL
15 cubits (24 feet) is the height of the flood waters.
The Susquehanna river flood in 1973 was 27 feet. My cousin's two story home was submerged.

Well, I didn't entirely give him an out, anyway, he didn't even use it. lol

[Nevaeh]

KittenKoder wrote:

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It says "kill" in there. Why do you ignore the parts you don't like?

Your kidding right? An altar for sacrificial offerings = used up or destroyed = kill. You must get 'Wisdom' for this grasshopper... I don' ignore anything I don't like.... I face it head on...:) N

[PartyPooper II]

ATHEISM is for people with simple minds...

[TheBlackSheep]

Nevaeh wrote:

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Your kidding right? An altar for sacrificial offerings = used up or destroyed = kill. You must get 'Wisdom' for this grasshopper... I don' ignore anything I don't like.... I face it head on...:) N

Something must be murdered, so that you god can forgive.

Doesn't that strike you as wrong? Immoral? Stupid?

[Richardfs]

KittenKoder wrote:

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You are correct, if you use the original Hebrew and not the modern translations:
http://www.noahs-ark-flood.com/creation.htm
Which also means it wasn't global.

If the flood was only 15 cubits and it took 40 days to get there why would you need an ark? I have seen bigger floods in an afternoon.

[Nevaeh]

TheBlackSheep wrote:

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You didn't explain anything. I realize that your god requires something to be killed, so that he can forgive. My question is, do you realize that.
Something must be murdered, so that you god can forgive.
Doesn't that strike you as wrong? Immoral? Stupid?

Yes, I do not understand everything God did, or does. I just trust him. I personally would not kill any animal, unless I intended to eat it. What you don't seem to understand is this is God's World. As any good Father, he makes the rules. You do realize nothing is sacrificed or murdered today, for God to forgive?... That's why Jesus died on the cross and shed his 'own' blood, so we can be forgiven.

[KittenKoder]

Nevaeh wrote:

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Your kidding right? An altar for sacrificial offerings = used up or destroyed = kill. You must get 'Wisdom' for this grasshopper... I don' ignore anything I don't like.... I face it head on...:) N

It says to kill the "offering."

50 And he shall kill the one of the birds in an earthen vessel over running water:

You said it didn't, you either ignored it or need to learn English. I suspect the latter at this point.

[Drew Smith]

PartyPooper II wrote:

ATHEISM is for people with simple minds...

Yes, even people with simple minds are able to recognize that it is pointless to believe in something without a shred of evidence to support that belief.

Theism, meanwhile, is for people who engage in wishful thinking.

[Nevaeh]

KittenKoder wrote:

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It says to kill the "offering."
50 And he shall kill the one of the birds in an earthen vessel over running water:
You said it didn't, you either ignored it or need to learn English. I suspect the latter at this point.

I'm sorry you have to insult people's intelligence to build yourself up. The fact that you do this, shows your lack there of. Again, this calls for 'Wisdom'...

[KittenKoder]

Nevaeh wrote:

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I'm sorry you have to insult people's intelligence to build yourself up. The fact that you do this, shows your lack there of. Again, this calls for 'Wisdom'...

since you placed it in quotes, what is your definition of wisdom being employed here?

By any chance you don't mean "interpretation," do you? Because if your book requires "interpretation" then who is to say your explanation is more valid than anyone else?

[TheBlackSheep]

Nevaeh wrote:

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Yes, I do not understand everything God did, or does. I just trust him. I personally would not kill any animal, unless I intended to eat it. What you don't seem to understand is this is God's World. As any good Father, he makes the rules. You do realize nothing is sacrificed or murdered today, for God to forgive?... That's why Jesus died on the cross and shed his 'own' blood, so we can be forgiven.

I realize that you are unable and or unwilling to think for yourself.

In your sect, is jesus god? If so, then he had himself killed to appease himself.

You say that you would not kill any animal, but had you been born prior to jesus' death, you would have been force to murder animals for your god.

In fact, your god has standing orders for you to kill all non-believers! I know, you try and try to weasel out of god's laws, but you are only fooling yourself. Your god said that you must and jesus confirmed that you must. If you are not going to follow your god's laws, why would you try to get me to follow him?

[TheBlackSheep]

KittenKoder wrote:

It says to kill the "offering."
50 And he shall kill the one of the birds in an earthen vessel over running water:
You said it didn't, you either ignored it or need to learn English. I suspect the latter at this point.

Nevaeh wrote:

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I'm sorry you have to insult people's intelligence to build yourself up. The fact that you do this, shows your lack there of. Again, this calls for 'Wisdom'...

KittenKoder, made a very good point and you did what any good believer would do; you ran away from the issue and created a new one!

[Buck Crick]

WesTheDuck wrote:

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Actually, scientists have created life from non-living material.

No, actually they have not.

They started with LIVING material, dumbass.

[KittenKoder]

Buck Crick wrote:

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No, actually they have not.
They started with LIVING material, dumbass.

Wait, you think atoms are alive?

[KittenKoder]

TheBlackSheep wrote:

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KittenKoder, made a very good point and you did what any good believer would do; you ran away from the issue and created a new one!

The irony is that needing to learn English would have been a valid reason for a mis-communication. I keep giving them easy ways to avoid the tough problems with their mythology, but they just immediately assume it's an insult, or intended as one.

[BoThSiDeSoFsToRy]

Khatru wrote:

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Well said!
Christianity is based on death. It promises us eternal life in heaven, and reduces it's adherents to a bunch of forlock-tugging, self-pitying people who believe that they are "unworthy" because of their inherent sinfulness.
This philosophy completely overshadows the enjoyment of life.
What else does it do? It opresses women and denies them equality with men, it persecutes homosexuals and it terrifies little children like Curtis Lowe.
Wait a minute - there's more: It represses scientific research and promotes superstition and the worship of an imaginary god while all the time, condemning mortal man.
It's time that religion was kicked out of the public square and back where it belongs - in the minds of the ignorant and gullible.

*** HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN MIRACLES SIR??**** Mere coincedences?? My husband had a 6 pound tumor pushing his lungs back, they said he would die in a matter of months. He was revived and is now in remission. He is lucky to be alive. This is a coincedence that it just went away right? Dont think so. By heavy prayer and faith, he kept going. God is real and those who choose to deny him will also be denied. I do not like to be called ignorant and gullible. I believe what I see and what I experience. Its also a coincedence that we moved and I quit my job not knowing if i could find another one. Well what do you know, I got a call from an application I put in months ago, that I forgot about and was hired the same day I moved. Good luck or GOD? Luck is a myth, I dont believe in. When you feel God one day you will understand.

[BoThSiDeSoFsToRy]

TheBlackSheep wrote:

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You didn't explain anything. I realize that your god requires something to be killed, so that he can forgive. My question is, do you realize that.
Something must be murdered, so that you god can forgive.
Doesn't that strike you as wrong? Immoral? Stupid?

YOUR GOD??? How about everyones God? So we are here for no reason now right? No purpose, everything created itself huh? that is pure ignorance to believe that we are nothing. God is a forgiving God. Jesus died for your sins, he loves you. He died so we can live and be forgiven your right about that. But also, your wrong that God took him just so he could forgive us. The people persucuted him, his own people. Love each other like I love you, thats what we are here for is to love each other, show each other, teach each other and to live. And to your question, yes I do understand sacrifice, do you? Apparently not. You sound really selfish not to understand sacrifice. Your own mother sacrifices her life for her children. The government sacrifices spending time with their family to work. Lives have been saved by sacrifices of few good men. Sacrificing that candy bar at the store to save up for your childs christmas? You must think you are immoral if you do not understand this? think before you call anyone ignorant, look in the mirror. Life is about love, sacrifice, forgiveness. If not what is it for? Material stuff, sex, power, NOOOO!!!!

[Buck Crick]

KittenKoder wrote:

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Wait, you think atoms are alive?

The experiment started with DNA from a living organism.

The claim of creating life is a lie.

Atheists love it, and quote it often, being too stupid or too dishonest to admit it's a lie.