Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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#145862 Dec 30, 2012
River Tam wrote:
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We can all change.
I saw a bright light once.
http://members.iglou.com/perkins/newkpf/2002_...
When I got to the end it was dark.
31Dec12.....

....So, yer using one of yer udder cockPuppets to give yerSelf 'Brilliant' judgings, huh.

Ps:....Who do ya dink you har.

BobLoblah nose who you are. You are a schidt-for-brains. A schidt-for-brains of the thirdKind.

Read'em and Weep.

Merry Christmas. Phuck you berry much tooooooooooo.

Forever and Ever
BobLoblah

Since: Apr 11

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#145866 Dec 30, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
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So you admire black and white thinking.
And apparently you're proud of that.
Ok.
Thanks.
31Dec12.....

...and jest look vot da hook brought in. You 'hairOhBleather'...

.....'Black and White' thinking means NO backDoors and straight forward....

....and BobLoblah is berry proud to be like dat tooo.

Ps:.....Of course, eeejits like you cannot comprehend because of haul dat Pus inside yer skulls calls schidt-for-brains.

Merry Christmas. Phuck you berry much toooooooooo.

Forever and Ever
BobLoblah

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#145867 Dec 30, 2012
WesTheDuck wrote:
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What you said: "but they have not ever been able to create life from non living material."
This is what they did. Saying they did not implies there is something more to life than what we know of - something you can't prove. Here is a summary of the project:
"And after nearly 15 years of such toiling in his labs in Rockville, Md., J. Craig Venter, co-mapper of the human genome, has done just that. Reporting in the journal Science, he describes a remarkable experiment in which he and the team at his eponymous institute have pieced together the entire genome of a bacterium and then inserted those genetic instructions into another bacterium. The cell booted up, and life ó by nearly any definition ó was created."
We can just about bet, that when or if life is created from basic elements, there will be more than one theist that says....

"NO, NO, NO, MY DEITY MADE THOSE ELEMENTS... YOU HAVEN"T DONE ANYTHING!"

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#145871 Dec 30, 2012
Snevaeh legna wrote:
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Most every christian makes the very same claim, yet how many christian sects are there? How did you pick the correct sect and so many others failed?
Answer. Over 40,000. It picked me, I was baptized in the Holy Spirit, and speak in tongues...... My father is an Agnostic/, and my mother is Pentecostal.
The snake handlers brag that they handle deadly snakes for god. Every sect claims that the holy spirit came to them.
Snevaeh legna wrote:
Why do you trust that you picked the right one?
Answer. Because Christianity is not a religion. It is a relationship with God, which is individual and personal.
You cannot change the definition of a word to suit your beliefs:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rel...
Snevaeh legna wrote:
I have seen miracles done, in the name of Jesus. People falling to the floor with one touch of the hand. Healings for family members... Numerous speaking in tongues, which is not new to me.
I don't believe that there is even one case of proven faith healing and many cases where a person died trying, mostly defenseless children.
Snevaeh legna wrote:
I saw all this as a child, and on into my adulthood. My Grandmother would speak in tongues every time she prayed. She was the most amazing woman I ever had the pleasure to know... None of this is delusional, I assure you...
Indoctrination, you loved and revered your grandmother, so you believed what she taught you.
Snevaeh legna wrote:
I don't even drink, and it has nothing to do with being a Christian, I just don't like the taste... Lol. If it's not the right one, then I'm at least in the top 10... It's very Powerful...
Didn't jesus turn water into wine? Choosing not to drink has nothing to do with religion.
Snevaeh legna wrote:
Maybe you can join, you can be one of my prayer warriors. I don't like to quote the Bible too often, because it can be refuted.
And because there are a lot of nasty things in there that you are required to do!
Snevaeh legna wrote:
His resurrection etc.... My faith is based on.... See above again... I could go on and on about the 'Amazing' things God has done for me.... Not sure your ready for that...
Okay, go ahead and do what the Atheist always do.... I can take it... Hugs, Nevaeh.:)
You lost me in this one. A lot of amazing things have happened to me, too!
Snevaeh legna wrote:
I have no need to be speak privately to anonymous people, but thanks for the offer.
Your welcome anytime... Offer always stand...
BS... Just know, you will only get so many chances to hear the truth... Someone is praying for you somewhere, because no one crosses my path by accident...:)
Sounds a wee bit on the arrogant side, but... Well, just maybe I can get you to read your bible more, read up and some history and science.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#145875 Dec 30, 2012
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text>We can just about bet, that when or if life is created from basic elements, there will be more than one theist that says....
"NO, NO, NO, MY DEITY MADE THOSE ELEMENTS... YOU HAVEN"T DONE ANYTHING!"
I attended church, for the family even though I did not believe, and I had a lot of respect for the preachers, until he told the joke that ended with that as the punchline.

That told me that no matter what we accomplish, people like him were going to find a way to deny that man has done anything.

As if god changed the cosmos in the 1500's to accommodate Copernicus' findings.
blacklagoon

Hyde Park, MA

#145876 Dec 30, 2012
WesTheDuck wrote:
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Problem with this: The fossils which have been found in any mountain ranges are ancient. A lot of land was underwater at some point in the distant past (note: distant being much longer ago than 6,000 years)- this is not evidence of a flood. Evidence of a flood would be flood sediment spread throughout time.
Unfortunately for you religious nutjobs, there is a mountain (see what I did there?) of evidence against the flood - and what you cite as evidence of a flood has natural answers which can be found with a simple google search. See: http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messi...
In case you're too lazy to read it, let me list a few for you: 1) there are trees that are older than the flood would have been, 2) There is no evidence of a genetic bottleneck in any of the species which Noah would have had on the ark, 3) Noah would have had to move several hundred animals onto the ark... PER SECOND. This is obviously impossible... The list goes on. You get the point.
Lets add to the list. The Egyptians had a well developed civilization at that time, as did China, and absolutely no mention or records of a devastating world wide flood. Both civilizations would have been destroyed, they weren't!!!! It would take an EXTRA 3.4 billion cubic MILES of EXTRA water to cover the globe including mouton ranges. Where did that water come from and where did it go? And to enhance one of your valid points. A world wide flood would have left a SINGLE IDENTIFIABLE LAYER OF SEDIMENT DATED BACK TO THAT SPECIFIC TIME IN EARTHS HISTORY..........THERE IS NONE!!!!!!

Why do supposedly intelligent people believe in magical events and mythical beings? The power of early brainwashing is on display!!!!
blacklagoon

Hyde Park, MA

#145877 Dec 30, 2012
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>True ~ when they find out after spending ludicrous amounts of money while we have world wide starvation, on the effects of their drugs and chemicals, they quickly work on something else, wasting more money.
***The release of thalidomide in the 1950s and 1960s led to the worldís most publicised pharmaceutical disaster.
Thalidomide was marketed for a wide range of ailments, and was touted as safe to use during pregnancy. But the manufacturers and sellers had never tested thalidomide's effect on the unborn child, and tragically, thousands of babies suffered serious malformations after their mothers took the pills.
Many of the victims have never been able to pursue compensation claims.
Some could never produce the evidence that their mothers took the pills. Doctors at that time often provided patients with samples, and pharmacists commonly did not record the name of the medication on the containers.
http://www.slatergordon.com.au/thalidomide *** Fraud involved?
***More Prescription Drugs As We Get Older?
By Dr. Bruce West
It has been shown that the healthiest and longest-living Americans are Senior Citizens who take little or no prescription drugs. This is not just a statement made by folks who believe in alternative therapies. It is from a study quoted in the prestigious Journal of the American Medical Association which was done at Harvard Medical School. The study confirms what observant, knowledgeable researchers and doctors have maintained for years about drugs: that too many physicians are recommending that patients take powerful medicines about which we know little, to fight diseases about which we know even less, into their bodies about which we know next to nothing. The startling proof that prescription drugs are maiming and killing our older citizens by the thousands came from the above-mentioned study, and here are some of the main points Many Americans over 65 were given drugs that are never appropriate to be prescribed for Senior Citizens.
At least twenty such drugs that should never be prescribed for those over 65, under any circumstances, are routinely and repeatedly prescribed.
Doctors need to be alerted in a major way about their prescribing of dangerous drugs that are ineffective and should not have been prescribed at all, and about safe alternatives.
Drugs are causing ten million or more people into fainting spells, dizziness, balance problems, severe falls, memory loss, addictions, ulcers, heart attacks, and more.
The study on seniors was done on many thousands of people, none of whom were in nursing homes. There is no doubt that those in most nursing homes fare much worse!
http://www.rethinkingcancer.org/resources/mag... ***
Where does Corporate Responsibility come into effect? Have you read the list of chemicals (usually numbers in the ingredients on packages, it is law here to do so) that are in each number that is on the item? Amazing stuff, and if you ring the FDA and discuss it with them, they will tell you it is your responsibility to keep tally of all those chemicals you intake daily or by the hour even.
No one reads these long rambling posts. It gives little or no space to respond, probably your tact anyway. Break your ideas into smaller more concise posts, maybe people will actually take the time to read them.

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#145880 Dec 30, 2012
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>No one reads these long rambling posts. It gives little or no space to respond, probably your tact anyway. Break your ideas into smaller more concise posts, maybe people will actually take the time to read them.
31Dec12.....

.....the LIAR thou art,'slackerGoon'....

Ps:.....ALL posters who are REAL Christians read ALL postings made by members of the Faithful.

It's just dat, schidt-for-brains.....hateful, hypocritical, hAtheistic bastards like YOU dat are just toooooooo lazy to 'adjust' yourselves correctly to a discussion and / or debate.

Merry Christmas. Phuck you berry much toooooooooooooo.

Forever and Ever
BobLoblah

Since: Apr 11

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#145883 Dec 30, 2012
Xyzhoturutsmail wrote:
<quoted text>You are right Bob. He also read the post, he just had no retort so he resorting to typical atheist flaming.
31Dec12.....

.....of course this schidt-for-brains read da post.

Such hateful, hypocritical, hAtheists have NO friends in the REAL world and have only 'intangibles' in the WorldwideWeb to make contact with.

If these arseHoles had to 'speak in Public', they would schidt in their pants with StageFright.

ALL these wannabeehAtheists 'pretend' dat they do NOT readUP on the REAL Christian postings. They are outright LIARs.

Merry Christmas to you and ALL your family and REAL friends.

BobLoblah Rules.

Forever and Ever
BobLoblah

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#145884 Dec 30, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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No, I was bullied as a child, being butch in the early 80s wasn't cool until I got into junior high. Anyhow, I turned the tables on them quickly so it's meh. That still doesn't change that you are grasping at straws.
I'm sorry you were bullied. Kids can be downright mean sometimes.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#145885 Dec 30, 2012
Richardfs wrote:
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Do you know how the rest of know you are clutching at straws? You post inane personal remarks which have nothing to do with the topic.
You know, I think you were dropped on your head when you were a kid....repeatedly.
Iím not trying to humiliate you here Rich. Bullyism is why so many of your comments are negative and personally demeaning. The hate filled bullyism you faced as a child is being replicated in you. That part of your persona was shaped in childhood.

How many times have you ever said anything gracious here on topix against your opponents? You havenít and your not going to. Itís not in you to show any acts of kindness.

As you know I have been guilty myself of being offensive. At least I do on occasion show some acts of friendliness. You probably donít believe me but I do feel a kinship to the Atheist on this site. And on occasions I have sided with Atheist.

There is a big difference in the personalities among our topix Atheist. There are some who are constantly rude and offensive. Then there are some who are above the fray and are always cordial. The cordial ones thoughts are not lost but seems to carry further than the hateful ones.

Peace..........

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#145886 Dec 30, 2012
River Tam wrote:
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I am 19.
Do you know how many times I wake up and wish I was older? None
Do you know how many times I wake up and wish I was heterosexual? Every time.
It never happens and it never will.
I'm 5'6" and 115. I don't know what fat is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =LUOsyBPFfAoXX
Straight, gay, young, old, eventually we all wind up as worm food. It's your words that last, your actions that live forever. It is your deeds that perpetuate your name. It is the impressions you leave behind that make you immortal ... or not. The kindness will last forever.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#145887 Dec 30, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
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I'm sorry you were bullied. Kids can be downright mean sometimes.
Interesting how you ignored the actual point of my post.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#145888 Dec 30, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
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Iím not trying to humiliate you here Rich. Bullyism is why so many of your comments are negative and personally demeaning. The hate filled bullyism you faced as a child is being replicated in you. That part of your persona was shaped in childhood.
How many times have you ever said anything gracious here on topix against your opponents? You havenít and your not going to. Itís not in you to show any acts of kindness.
As you know I have been guilty myself of being offensive. At least I do on occasion show some acts of friendliness. You probably donít believe me but I do feel a kinship to the Atheist on this site. And on occasions I have sided with Atheist.
There is a big difference in the personalities among our topix Atheist. There are some who are constantly rude and offensive. Then there are some who are above the fray and are always cordial. The cordial ones thoughts are not lost but seems to carry further than the hateful ones.
Peace..........
People who choose to be ignorant, choose myths over reality, who think their version of god is real and everybody else is wrong do not deserve to be treated with respect.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#145889 Dec 30, 2012
Richardfs wrote:
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People who choose to be ignorant, choose myths over reality, who think their version of god is real and everybody else is wrong do not deserve to be treated with respect.
To translate Richard's point into an old Conservative saying:

Respect is earned, not given.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#145890 Dec 30, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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To translate Richard's point into an old Conservative saying:
Respect is earned, not given.
Yep.

Since: Oct 12

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#145891 Dec 30, 2012
HAPPY NEW YEAR, GUYS!!! I HOPE U ALL HAVE A GREAT 2013!!:-)

“I am but a humble duck.”

Since: Dec 12

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#145892 Dec 30, 2012
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>You missed my point ~ he went home and lived naturally; with his parents, when he was in his 60's..... longevity is found where science isn't, was my point!!
Your example was not a good one - spontaneous remission has nothing to do with how you live. It's just luck. On the other hand, doctors can remove cancer (thanks to, you guessed it - SCIENCE!), and it has a much higher rate of survival than praying that you are healed randomly.

Longevity is found in genes. Some people will simply have longer lives than others. Science, however, can compensate those who would not be able to live longer lives through various treatments and medicine.

It doesn't mean it's a perfect system. It doesn't mean that the people who control the system are "good people," either. Regardless, it certainly helps more people than it harms. I don't just know this because of studies, either. I know this because more than one of my family members have had their lives saved thanks to the breakthroughs in medical science.

“I am but a humble duck.”

Since: Dec 12

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#145893 Dec 30, 2012
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Lets add to the list. The Egyptians had a well developed civilization at that time, as did China, and absolutely no mention or records of a devastating world wide flood. Both civilizations would have been destroyed, they weren't!!!! It would take an EXTRA 3.4 billion cubic MILES of EXTRA water to cover the globe including mouton ranges. Where did that water come from and where did it go? And to enhance one of your valid points. A world wide flood would have left a SINGLE IDENTIFIABLE LAYER OF SEDIMENT DATED BACK TO THAT SPECIFIC TIME IN EARTHS HISTORY..........THERE IS NONE!!!!!!
Why do supposedly intelligent people believe in magical events and mythical beings? The power of early brainwashing is on display!!!!
I had to go to a Christian high school... One of my teachers thought every piece of evidence that contradicted what the Bible says was planted by the devil. It's baffling.

Since: Apr 11

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#145894 Dec 30, 2012
Clementia wrote:
HAPPY NEW YEAR, GUYS!!! I HOPE U ALL HAVE A GREAT 2013!!:-)
31Dec12.....

....ALL the happy practicing Christians hereIN will, but ALL the hateful, hypocritical, hAtheists will continue on with their miserable lives.

Ps:.....Stand by and lookIN next year this dime for proof.

Meanwhile, you 'clementia'... and yours have a very Merry Christmas and a Happy and Prosperous New Year from BobLoblah.

Forever and Ever
BobLoblah

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