Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#145677 Dec 29, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
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There are multiple, independent historical records of Beethoven's existence, unlike your Jesus, for whom no reliable records outside of the bible exist.
So Jesus is as much a fable as Socrates. OK

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#145678 Dec 29, 2012
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>This little joke was posted in FB via another Topix thread, and thought you might enjoy it too :)
***An atheist was seated next to a little girl on an airplane and he turned to her and said, "Do you want to talk? Flights go quicker if you strike up a conversation with your fellow passenger."
The little girl, who had just started to read her book, replied to the total stranger, "What would you want to talk about?"
"Oh, I don't know," said the atheist. "How about why there is no God, or no Heaven or Hell, or no life after death?" as he smiled smugly.
"Okay," she said. "Those could be interesting topics but let me ask you a question first. A horse, a cow, and a deer all eat the same stuff - grass. Yet a deer excretes little pellets, while a cow turns out a flat patty, but a horse produces clumps. Why do you suppose that is?"
The atheist, visibly surprised by the little girl's intelligence, thinks about it and says, "Hmmm, I have no idea." To which the little girl replies, "Do you really feel qualified to discuss God, Heaven and Hell, or life after death, when you don't know sh#t?"
And then she went back to reading her book.***
Old joke.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#145679 Dec 29, 2012
Clementia wrote:
<quoted text>I've got the serious face on, I'm being serious. Don't u guys care that she just disappeared? One minute she was here and the next, puff!
Hiding is a pretty busy young lady who gets too involved here, so she occasionally tears herself away from topix.

I'm sure she's fine and just attending to more important matters.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#145680 Dec 29, 2012
Clementia wrote:
<quoted text>Hang on...are u guys pulling my leg?
She's a teacher.

River's pulling your leg.

And she'll no doubt have a clever response coming.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#145681 Dec 29, 2012
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>If you pull my leg hard enough, it comes off. Well, the right one. Nooo, my right, your left.

;-)
There ya go.

;)

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#145682 Dec 29, 2012
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text>"And the waters prevailed exceedingly on the earth, and all the high hills under the whole heaven were covered. The waters prevailed fifteen cubits upward, and the mountains were covered" (Genesis 7:19–20).

And all flesh died that moved on the earth: birds and cattle and beasts and every creeping thing that creeps on the earth, and every man. All in whose nostrils was the breath of the spirit of life, all that was on the dry land, died (Genesis 7:21–22)
So the flood was 15 cubits (whatever a cubit is) ABOVE the highest mountains.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#145683 Dec 29, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>His work made him famous. And because of his work there is no denying that he existed. Even though he has been dead for hundreds of years his work lives on. Because of his work you believe in him.

You have seen the work of God yet you deny that he’s real and the creator.
What work of god?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#145684 Dec 29, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>Doctor, look at your comment,“may have played.”
What?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#145685 Dec 29, 2012
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Any clues as to the answer to the question about shit?
It's what constitutes your brain?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#145686 Dec 29, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>So Jesus is as much a fable as Socrates. OK
Is there evidence of Socrates' existence?

I've never actually looked.

Other than a handful of sayings attributed to him, I'm not very familiar.

I will admit to assuming he existed, but if that's doubtful, please enlighten me.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#145687 Dec 29, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
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Is there evidence of Socrates' existence?
I've never actually looked.
Other than a handful of sayings attributed to him, I'm not very familiar.
I will admit to assuming he existed, but if that's doubtful, please enlighten me.
I am asocratesist, still looking for the evidence.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#145688 Dec 29, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
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She made off with one of my wisdom teeth, started a cult...
I hear it's quite successful.
It's based on one ultimate tooth.
The whole tooth, and nothing but the tooth?

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#145689 Dec 29, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
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But doesn't the bible, inspired by your omniscient god, SAY that the whole world was covered-even the highest mountains?
Yep, the same god who came up with this!

Leviticus 14:49 And he shall take to cleanse the house two birds, and cedar wood, and scarlet, and hyssop:

50 And he shall kill the one of the birds in an earthen vessel over running water:

51 And he shall take the cedar wood, and the hyssop, and the scarlet, and the living bird, and dip them in the blood of the slain bird, and in the running water, and sprinkle the house seven times:

52 And he shall cleanse the house with the blood of the bird, and with the running water, and with the living bird, and with the cedar wood, and with the hyssop, and with the scarlet:

53 But he shall let go the living bird out of the city into the open fields, and make an atonement for the house: and it shall be clean.

Anyone willing to try it?

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#145690 Dec 29, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
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So the flood was 15 cubits (whatever a cubit is) ABOVE the highest mountains.
A cubit is roughly 18" in.

So, 30' ft.

This is something I've noticed with Ar Ar, and other theists. They'll make these grand claims or bare assertions, then when it appears there is going to be an answer given that necessitates an acknowledgment of a term or admission of being mistaken, they will disappear for a few days, return, never mention it again if possible, and ideally move away from the ridiculous claim they made.

Ar Ar does it consistently.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#145691 Dec 29, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
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So the flood was 15 cubits (whatever a cubit is) ABOVE the highest mountains.
No! No! No! duckie 12 states that the flood was only 20ft high and in a small area. What does the god of the bible know?
blacklagoon

Hyde Park, MA

#145692 Dec 29, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
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His work made him famous. And because of his work there is no denying that he existed. Even though he has been dead for hundreds of years his work lives on. Because of his work you believe in him.
You have seen the work of God yet you deny that hes real and the creator.
Not just because of his work. There is evidence of his existence in many other ways.

No, I have NOT seen the "Work" of God. Why would I assume anything that is tremendously complex, and or, awe inspiring is the "work" of anything? In my opinion that is a very primitive response. I would instead, begin a search for what caused this complexity and beauty and not automatically defer to a God. Almost without exception science gives me the answer for these things, and what it doesn't answer I consider inserting an imaginary being for that answer, foolish. I have studied at great lengths various aspects of science so I can have a better understanding of the world around me. Here is a quote I find so very true. "I am against religion because it teaches you to NOT understand the world around us." And this:....."As soon as you say Goddidit, the journey is over. However when you say I don't know but lets try and find out, then and only then does the journey begin."

I know how stars, planets, moons, comets, and solar systems come to be its common knowledge. I pretty much know how life got its start on our planet. Science does not know exactly all the details, but the basic concept is solid.

God has always been the answer for things man can't understand. Thunder, lightning, tornados, volcanos, tsunamis, sickness. Every time science discovers one of these answers, the "god answer" is replaced with science. Your God has become an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance. Smaller and smaller, until poof....it will be gone. Oh, I'm sure there will always be people who will cling to the idea that a magical being is responsible for everything in spite of the evidence to the contrary, but that is their loss.
blacklagoon

Hyde Park, MA

#145693 Dec 29, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
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I dedicate this following clip to you.
After you see this you will never ride another ass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =8NkgiFHEm0YXX
I was hopeful that I was going to ride one tonight, now what the hell am I going to do? Are you positive of this?????
blacklagoon

Hyde Park, MA

#145694 Dec 29, 2012
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Yep, and so does the ideas and knowleedge of scientists, thank GOD!!
I'm not sure what KNOWLEEDGE is. Aren't you the one so quick to point our spelling errors?.........Yeah, I thought so. Here, maybe this will help.....KNOWLEDGE>,,,,,,,, ,see?

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#145695 Dec 29, 2012
Today's scripture reading:

Numbers 11:31 And there went forth a wind from the Lord, and brought quails from the sea, and let them fall by the camp, as it were a day's journey on this side, and as it were a day's journey on the other side, round about the camp, and as it were two cubits high upon the face of the earth.

32 And the people stood up all that day, and all that night, and all the next day, and they gathered the quails: he that gathered least gathered ten homers: and they spread them all abroad for themselves round about the camp.

33 And while the flesh was yet between their teeth, ere it was chewed, the wrath of the Lord was kindled against the people, and the Lord smote the people with a very great plague.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#145696 Dec 29, 2012
scaritual wrote:
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A cubit is roughly 18" in.
So, 30' ft.
This is something I've noticed with Ar Ar, and other theists. They'll make these grand claims or bare assertions, then when it appears there is going to be an answer given that necessitates an acknowledgment of a term or admission of being mistaken, they will disappear for a few days, return, never mention it again if possible, and ideally move away from the ridiculous claim they made.
Ar Ar does it consistently.
oops..

Correction; About 22' ft. over the tallest mountains.

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