Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.
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Dec 28, 2012
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Try it again, this time where the flood took place, near Mt Ararat, 16,000 ft I think.
Also, don't assume that was a natural event. Remember "the floodgates of the heavens opened".....
Also keep in mind that I don't believe the whole world was covered in water. I think it's a symbolic narrative describing the cleansing of humanity through The Lord.
Now that you have realized your mistake you are trying shift the goal posts how very godbot of you.

1. It was supposedly a global flood.
2. You don't know the bibull very well.

Aren't you embarrassed that we atheists know the bibull better than you?

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Dec 28, 2012
 
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Scientists update their knowledge according to new evidence and findings.
Meanwhile creationists still believe the earth is 6000 years old and don't want to become more intelligent or knowledgeable about the world or nature.
I suppose its because you don't have any respect for the hard work and curiosity of scientists.
Thank GOD they do....

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Dec 28, 2012
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Try it again, this time where the flood took place, near Mt Ararat, 16,000 ft I think.
Also, don't assume that was a natural event. Remember "the floodgates of the heavens opened".....
Also keep in mind that I don't believe the whole world was covered in water. I think it's a symbolic narrative describing the cleansing of humanity through The Lord.
As a rule I don't respond to the same post twice but I will make an exception here:-

If as as you say:-
"the floodgates of the heavens opened"
which by the way means heaven must be water logged.

Then where did all the water go? The bath plug to hell? Please tell us where this bath plug is.

FYI "the floodgates of the heavens opened" comes from Malachi 3:10 which has nothing to do with the flood so please try and stay on track and stop making it up as you go.

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Dec 28, 2012
 
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The only agenda of science is to increase human understanding.
The only agenda of creationism is to lie about human understanding.
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They were able to see the enzyme's motion to help the healing process as it happens in nature.

"Now that we have accurately mapped the motions of a photolyase at the site of DNA repair, we can much better understand DNA repair at the atomic scale, and we can reveal the entire repair process with unprecedented detail," said Zhong.

The findings could be used to design drugs to heal sun damage**** written in January 2010 and this is written in August 2010!!

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They damage our DNA to start with, and then start fixing it! They have called a huge % of our DNA a junkyard, or playground, but now have decided they got it wrong, and it is important after all.

They give us the foods to buy and to eat, and write this stuff;

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Now that you have realized your mistake you are trying shift the goal posts how very godbot of you.
1. It was supposedly a global flood.
2. You don't know the bibull very well.
Aren't you embarrassed that we atheists know the bibull better than you?
You can't even spell it, let alone know it LOL.

You don't believe in it, but nit pick about there being a global flood. There is much evidence (that you believe in most times) that there are fossils of ocean dwelling inhabitants of all types high up mountain sides, supporting global flooding, to a degree.

It is your imagination that takes the degree to whatever level it is that you are satisfied with to disprove history and evidence. Are you embarrassed about your inability to spell simple words? If you are doing it on purpose, aren't you embarrassed at your lack of social skills?

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Dec 28, 2012
 
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Thank GOD they do....
The Worst Additives [in alphabetical order]
www.mbm.net.au/health/worst_additives.htm
20 Jun 2000 – So many references are made to the following additives that they need ... As the additive causes cancer in animals, it is likely to also cause ...
Food Additives ~ CSPI's Food Safety
www.cspinet.org/reports/chemcuisine.htm
Two rat studies suggest that the additive might cause cancer. It was for those reasons that in 1996 the Center for Science in the Public Interest urged the FDA to ...
The truth about food additives: how they threaten your health ...
www.theecologist.org/.../the_truth_about_food... ...
18 Jan 2012 – You'll see that a majority are linked to cancer in animals. Yes, I know you're not a lab rat, but when an additive causes cancer in animals, it may ...
12 Dangerous Food Additives: The Dirty Dozen Food Additives You ...
www.sixwise.com › Newsletters › 2006 › April › 5
5 Apr 2006 – With any processed food you run the risk of coming across additives, and ... additives have been found by some studies to cause cancer in rats.
Food Additives to Avoid
www.sweetpoison.com/food-additives-to-avoid.h...
Tests show that the additive causes cancer in animals, which means it may increase cancer in humans. Avoid acesulfame K and products containing it....
E211 additive switches off parts of DNA « Ant's Roots
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28 May 2007 – This weekend The Independent newspaper reported on a recent soft drinks research, which reveals some brands may cause serious health ...
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28 May 2007 – Research shows that E211 - found in drinks such as Fanta and Pepsi Max - can switch off vital parts of DNA, causing serious damage to cells....
Sadly though, it takes a long time for the government to make them takes these additives out of our foods ~ but not sad for the scientists, they get to give us more drugs to cure the damage they have done!!
Now that you have shown that we scientists make mistakes and correct them where are the corrections to the bibull?

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Dec 28, 2012
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You have no evidence that Beethoven existed!
His works were stolen from....
....uh
.....Pagans!
derpy athitards
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Dec 28, 2012
 
Aerobatty wrote:
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Except that we know Beethoven existed.

So you claim.

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Anytime there’s heavy rain there is going to be flooding.
Heavy Rain = Flooding, that’s not too hard to understand. However because it is recorded in the Bible. Atheist think it is a joke.

Atheist think it’s crazy that there was a “first,” Flood Control Commission. With the very first appointed Chairman.

That chairman was instructed in disaster planning and preparedness. He took his job very serious and he went to work preparing for the worlds first massive flood.

Despite the cynicism coming from our dearly beloved Atheist. There was indeed a “first massive flood.” In fact the bible actually records the average depth.

Perhaps it snowed in higher elevations. But only the base of mountains flooded. One must also consider that in a mountain range there are gullies and deep trenches where the water was much deeper.

Questions abound if this was a local flood or a global flood. Local flooding can encompass millions of square miles. Not just a couple city blocks. The world of human kind, as they knew it, flooded. Only those who took the Flood Control Commission serious was saved.

Not much has changed. We still have people building their dream homes on or near rivers, lakes and oceans. When massive rains and storms come. Those home flood, many are washed away from their foundations.

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Serah wrote:
<quoted text>You can't even spell it, let alone know it LOL.
You don't believe in it, but nit pick about there being a global flood. There is much evidence (that you believe in most times) that there are fossils of ocean dwelling inhabitants of all types high up mountain sides, supporting global flooding, to a degree.
It is your imagination that takes the degree to whatever level it is that you are satisfied with to disprove history and evidence. Are you embarrassed about your inability to spell simple words? If you are doing it on purpose, aren't you embarrassed at your lack of social skills?
Say all you like how I spell bibull it does not change the fact it is bull, the numbers prove it.

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Dec 28, 2012
 
Eagle12 wrote:
Despite the cynicism coming from our dearly beloved Atheist.
That's not a sentence.

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Dec 28, 2012
 
Richardfs wrote:
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Say all you like how I spell bibull it does not change the fact it is bull, the numbers prove it.
I bet in real life you’re a lot nicer in person.

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Dec 28, 2012
 
Catcher1 wrote:
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That's not a sentence.
I dedicate this following clip to you.

After you see this you will never ride another ass.

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Dec 28, 2012
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Christians believe reality is a myth?
You've really got yourself convinced of that, huh?
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Dec 28, 2012
 
Richardfs wrote:
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Say all you like how I spell bibull it does not change the fact it is bull, the numbers prove it.
LOL....

JOB 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.

Matthew 10:30 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered....

Numbers indeed prove much, and isn't it grand that the scientists have worked out that the very hairs on our heads are numbered? Given them a great understanding of our DNA and not to flipping wreck it, don't you think? Would you let them play with your DNA knowing what you know, or are you happy to be a little guinea pig and leave the rats in peace???

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Dec 28, 2012
 
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Once upon a time, our diet was science free.....
Once upon a time, Pasteur wasn't yet born.

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Dec 28, 2012
 
Eagle12 wrote:
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I bet in real life you’re a lot nicer in person.
Letting out his frustrations hiding behind his avatar identity? Mmh, wouldn't be surprised, but then again, nothing much surprises me these days LOL

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Dec 28, 2012
 
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>LOL....
JOB 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.
Matthew 10:30 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered....
Numbers indeed prove much, and isn't it grand that the scientists have worked out that the very hairs on our heads are numbered? Given them a great understanding of our DNA and not to flipping wreck it, don't you think? Would you let them play with your DNA knowing what you know, or are you happy to be a little guinea pig and leave the rats in peace???
Pray do tell what has that got to do with Noah's so called flood?????

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Eagle12 wrote:
Anytime there’s heavy rain there is going to be flooding.
Heavy Rain = Flooding, that’s not too hard to understand. However because it is recorded in the Bible. Atheist think it is a joke.
Atheist think it’s crazy that there was a “first,” Flood Control Commission. With the very first appointed Chairman.
That chairman was instructed in disaster planning and preparedness. He took his job very serious and he went to work preparing for the worlds first massive flood.
Despite the cynicism coming from our dearly beloved Atheist. There was indeed a “first massive flood.” In fact the bible actually records the average depth.
Perhaps it snowed in higher elevations. But only the base of mountains flooded. One must also consider that in a mountain range there are gullies and deep trenches where the water was much deeper.
Questions abound if this was a local flood or a global flood. Local flooding can encompass millions of square miles. Not just a couple city blocks. The world of human kind, as they knew it, flooded. Only those who took the Flood Control Commission serious was saved.
Not much has changed. We still have people building their dream homes on or near rivers, lakes and oceans. When massive rains and storms come. Those home flood, many are washed away from their foundations.
Eagle12 wrote:
Anytime there’s heavy rain there is going to be flooding.
Heavy Rain = Flooding, that’s not too hard to understand. However because it is recorded in the Bible. Atheist think it is a joke.
Atheist think it’s crazy that there was a “first,” Flood Control Commission. With the very first appointed Chairman.
That chairman was instructed in disaster planning and preparedness. He took his job very serious and he went to work preparing for the worlds first massive flood.
Despite the cynicism coming from our dearly beloved Atheist. There was indeed a “first massive flood.” In fact the bible actually records the average depth.
This first chairman was how old? 600 years, give or take a century?

Otay.

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Dec 28, 2012
 
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Letting out his frustrations hiding behind his avatar identity? Mmh, wouldn't be surprised, but then again, nothing much surprises me these days LOL
The only frustration I see here are godbots who can't face reality, trying to shift the goal posts and change the topic.

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