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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#145010 Dec 22, 2012
Freebird USA wrote:
If journalists mischaracterized the work of Krauss it was his responisibilty to call them on it..
Krauss already has enough to keep him busy. Attempting to police journalists for oversimplifications or hyperbole is not likely to be part of his focus.
LorenEberly

Lewistown, OH

#145011 Dec 22, 2012
Payroll Taxes:

USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demands Government holds every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church accountable. To market the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of workers, consumers, and taxpayer's paying all taxes including payroll tax; and wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

The majority of Us the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; insist on reelecting Obnoxious President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

That defies USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

And holds Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. That gets only product or service.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.

This defiance of USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and Realities demands created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt.

This makes it IMPOSSIBLE for President Barrack Obama and Congress to avoid fiscal cliff and balance every budget.

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#145012 Dec 22, 2012
Clementia wrote:
Hey Tide, How ya Doin'? How have things been? Ready, for Christmas?
OK, I'll get to the point....WHERE'S CATCHER?
Guess what I watched?
Taken 2. Oh yh, it was good!!
Catcher isn't wearing his locator beacon or his locator bacon.

The dog was like, "Ruff?", and I was like, "I don't know either."

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#145013 Dec 22, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
Catcher isn't wearing his locator beacon or his locator bacon.
The dog was like, "Ruff?", and I was like, "I don't know either."
hehehehe ha ha he he ho ho ho!

VERY funny, Tide. No, really, that's funny!

You pink panther, you..

I think he's in Dubai with that..that...Hazel. I knew there was something between them, I just knew it!

Who's goin' to call me Clementine, now?:-(

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#145014 Dec 22, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
<quoted text>
Krauss already has enough to keep him busy. Attempting to police journalists for oversimplifications or hyperbole is not likely to be part of his focus.
LOL,thats a hoot ,once more especially when their misakes make him look good.At least Kauss found the time to debate William Lane Craig something Richard Dawkins cearly has no stomach for.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#145016 Dec 22, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
Design? As in intelligent design yes?
What a reject.
<quoted text>
Feel free to go away.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#145017 Dec 22, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
Symantecs.
Then give an example of something YOU define as created.
If I have to, I can go back to about 10^-34 seconds after the Big Bang and roughly explain the "processes".
Before that, it gets a little sketchy.
http://www.theonion.com/articles/asian-teen-h...

:)

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#145018 Dec 22, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
QM is one of the most successful theories in physics.
It passes test after test. After test.
Not a whole lot of faith involved.
Au contraire. Its principles have not been proven in the lab. Krauss assumes the principles.Rather he has "faith" in them.

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#145019 Dec 22, 2012
Clementia wrote:
hehehehe ha ha he he ho ho ho!
VERY funny, Tide. No, really, that's funny!
You pink panther, you..
I think he's in Dubai with that..that...Hazel. I knew there was something between them, I just knew it!
Who's goin' to call me Clementine, now?:-(
Huckleberry Hound?

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#145020 Dec 22, 2012
Krauss already has enough to keep him busy. Attempting to police journalists for oversimplifications or hyperbole is not likely to be part of his focus.
Freebird USA wrote:
LOL,thats a hoot ,once more especially when their misakes make him look good.
It would be a lifetime job for any scientist to attempt to correct mistakes by journalists. Tell you what: If you have a problem with something that Krauss said, then debate an actual quote from his book, instead of some journalistic interpretation. The fact that you don't suggests that you're engaged in a straw man.
Freebird USA wrote:
At least Kauss found the time to debate William Lane Craig
He found the time to debate Craig because NC State paid him. I'm not aware that anyone would pay Krauss for correcting a mistake made by a journalist.
Freebird USA wrote:
...something Richard Dawkins cearly has no stomach for.
Dawkins has no stomach for Craig's self-promotion. Craig makes money from selling books of his debates. Perhaps you didn't realize it.

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#145021 Dec 22, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
I'm not surprised by this in the least.

“What?”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#145022 Dec 22, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not surprised by this in the least.
"I can't explain it," said Nakajima, dressed in a pleated miniskirt and pure white knee socks.

Oh, hell.

“What?”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#145023 Dec 22, 2012
Clementia wrote:
<quoted text>
lol
Thinking once is bad enough and u want me to think twice, nah, it ain't gonna happen!
I like that in a girl.

;-p

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#145024 Dec 22, 2012
River Tam wrote:
"I can't explain it," said Nakajima, dressed in a pleated miniskirt and pure white knee socks.
Oh, hell.
My turn to backspace.

I feel flushed.

Eagle12

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#145026 Dec 22, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh ya, he's funny as hell. When the phone rings, he says "hellooo?"
Sometimes he rings Hus own phone, says hello, then pretends he's having a conversation with someone.
He'll scream a loud, shrill little girl scream. Really sounds like a 3 yr old girl whining about something.
And he has cognitive abilities that blow me away.
Lol,:)

Eagle12

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#145027 Dec 22, 2012
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
So you think African Grey Parrots are Satan too ?
You're nuts.
Those are your words my good man.

Eagle12

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#145028 Dec 22, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
You are truly a moron.
Thank you, I interpret that as saying,“slam dunk.”

2pts!

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#145029 Dec 22, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
You are one big moron, aintcha?
Catholic are part of Christianity, but they aren't Christians.
Catholic
Christian
Christianity
*helpless laughter*

Now you're not even pretending to try to make sense.

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#145030 Dec 22, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
One has to know about Murder Town before Murder Town exists...
Now you know about it. You're going there unless you choose otherwise.

Eagle12

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#145031 Dec 22, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you mean "A" particular one "who was trained" or
The African Grey Parrots as a whole?
Because if the African Grey Parrots in general understood basic human language. They would be flying up asking people questions.
Meaning they had learned independently by their own reasoning skills.
Wiki: Irene Pepperberg's research with captive African Greys, most notably with a bird named Alex, has scientifically demonstrated they possess the ability to associate simple human words with meanings, and to intelligently apply the abstract concepts of shape, colour, number, zero-sense, etc. According to Pepperberg and other ornithologists, they perform many cognitive tasks at the level of dolphins, chimpanzees, and even human toddlers.

Alex (1976 – September 6, 2007) was an African Grey Parrot and the subject of a thirty-year (1977–2007) experiment by animal psychologist Irene Pepperberg, initially at the University of Arizona and later at Harvard University and Brandeis University. Pepperberg bought Alex in a regular pet shop when he was about one year old. The name Alex is an acronym for Avian Language EXperiment, but Pepperberg later cited the name as meaning Avian Learning EXperiment to evoke further acceptance in her research field, a then-touchy topic (explained in her book, Alex & Me). His successor was Griffin.

Before Pepperberg's work with Alex, it was widely believed in the scientific community that a large primate brain was needed to handle complex problems related to language and understanding and that birds were not considered to be intelligent as their only common use of communication was of mimicking and the repetition of sounds to interact with each other.

However, Alex's accomplishments indicated that birds may be able to reason on a basic level and use words creatively. Pepperberg wrote that Alex's intelligence was on a par with that of dolphins and great apes. She also reported that Alex had the intelligence of a five-year-old human and had not even reached his full potential by the time he died. She said that the bird had the emotional level of a human two-year-old at the time of his death.

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