Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“I see quantum effects”

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#144974 Dec 22, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Sure, but the process must be created.
Ugh.

You're exhausting.

Not really.

Just stupid.

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#144975 Dec 22, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
So you think that if you don't know of hell you can't choose to go there?
You can't choose to go to a place if you don't believe that place exists.

Do you still disagree?

“I see quantum effects”

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#144976 Dec 22, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Snow isn't created, scar. It's crystalline water ice that fall from clouds.

Rain isn't created, it's precipitated water vapor.

Erosion is a process......

Canyons are formed, not created.

Waterways are navigable bodies of water.....

Try again.

What is created by non-intelligence?
Symantecs.

Then give an example of something YOU define as created.

If I have to, I can go back to about 10^-34 seconds after the Big Bang and roughly explain the "processes".

Before that, it gets a little sketchy.

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#144977 Dec 22, 2012
scaritual wrote:
hahahaaa
"OH"
I really like how he tries to not mention "create", when what he describes is part of the process of non intelligent creation, or the result of non intelligent creation.
The one where he mentions waterways are "navigable bodies of water" is hilarious.
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"Duck season."

"Rabbit season!"

"Duck season."

"Rabbit season!"

"Rabbit season."

"Duck season! SHOOT!"

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#144978 Dec 22, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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So funny you didn't rebut...
Your reading skills are lacking, too.

I did right here. http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...

Before the post you just made.

And you haven't rebutted a thing yet, all you've done is "nuh huh!".

RiversideRedneck

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#144979 Dec 22, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
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You can't choose to go to a place if you don't believe that place exists.
Do you still disagree?
Yes, I disagree.

That's like saying that if a tree falls in the woods and no ones around to hear, then it doesn't make a sound.

Silly

RiversideRedneck

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#144980 Dec 22, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
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Symantecs.
Then give an example of something YOU define as created.
If I have to, I can go back to about 10^-34 seconds after the Big Bang and roughly explain the "processes".
Before that, it gets a little sketchy.
"Sketchy"?!?

You mean unexplainable, right?

Yes.

A human is created.

A sun is created.

Art is created.

Poetry is created.

A canyon is formed, not created.

A waterway is formed, not created.

Rain is formed, not created.

RiversideRedneck

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#144981 Dec 22, 2012
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text> Your reading skills are lacking, too.
I did right here. http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...
Before the post you just made.
And you haven't rebutted a thing yet, all you've done is "nuh huh!".
Ah, yes....

A Jedi's weapon....

By now you must know that your father can never be turned from the dark side.

So will it be with you.....

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#144982 Dec 22, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Yes, I disagree.
That's like saying that if a tree falls in the woods and no ones around to hear, then it doesn't make a sound.
Silly
How is it like that? That doesn't relate at all.

If you don't believe in the Mighty Jeff, you'll go to Murder Town after you die. By not believing in Mighty Jeff, you are choosing to go to Murder Town.

Are you choosing to go to Murder Town?

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#144983 Dec 22, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Ah, yes....
A Jedi's weapon....
By now you must know that your father can never be turned from the dark side.
So will it be with you.....
You really have no idea what you are talking about, so you resort to babble in an attempt to cover your inadequacies.

It's okay. At least you're trying.

RiversideRedneck

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#144984 Dec 22, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
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How is it like that? That doesn't relate at all.
If you don't believe in the Mighty Jeff, you'll go to Murder Town after you die. By not believing in Mighty Jeff, you are choosing to go to Murder Town.
Are you choosing to go to Murder Town?
The point is that Hell exists whether you believe in it or not.

If you don't choose Jesus, you choose Hell.

That's just the way it is.

Some things'll never change.

RiversideRedneck

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#144985 Dec 22, 2012
scaritual wrote:
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You really have no idea what you are talking about, so you resort to babble in an attempt to cover your inadequacies.
It's okay. At least you're trying.
Ok fine.....

A human is created.

A sun is created.

Art is created.

Poetry is created.

A canyon is formed, not created.

A waterway is formed, not created.

Rain is formed, not created.

“I see quantum effects”

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#144986 Dec 22, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>"Sketchy"?!?

You mean unexplainable, right?

Yes.

A human is created.

A sun is created.

Art is created.

Poetry is created.

A canyon is formed, not created.

A waterway is formed, not created.

Rain is formed, not created.
A sun is formed.

A human is formed.

Try again.

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#144987 Dec 22, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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"Sketchy"?!?
You mean unexplainable, right?
Yes.
A human is created.
A sun is created.
Art is created.
Poetry is created.
A canyon is formed, not created.
A waterway is formed, not created.
Rain is formed, not created.
You do know that "formed", is a type of "creation", no?

Adjective: formed
1. Having or given a form or shape

Verb: form
1. Create (as an entity)
2. To compose or represent
3. Develop into a distinctive entity
4. Give shape or form to
5. Make something, usually for a specific function
6. Establish or impress firmly in the mind
7. Assume a form or shape

formed: type of;
act upon
alter
be
become
change
comprise
constitute
create
create from raw material
create from raw stuff
influence
make
make up
modify
represent
work

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See?

Whatever you assert is formed, means the form was created.

None of what I just explained to you necessarily requires an intelligence to occur. For instance, you assert the canyon is formed, that form was created by something. The form or shape of the canyon was created.

Lemme bring out that pesky definition again.

Verb: create
1. Make or cause to be or to become
2. Bring into existence

WordWeb Pro 6.0

Now you know.

I don't expect you understand it, however.

“"None shall pass"”

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There

#144988 Dec 22, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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The morning star is known as "Phosphoros" in Greek, and "Lucifer" in Latin.
Both names means "light bringer" which would be an appropriate name for Jesus.
Do not confuse it with the translation of "Helel ben Shahar" in Isaiah 14:12. The name Lucifer is nowhere to be found in the Hebrew text.
Nebuchadnezzar is called to Helel (Hebrew for "Morning Star") which is translated as "Lucifer" in the Bible.
Jesus calls himself Phosphoros (Greek for "Morning Star")which is translated as "Morning Star" in the Bible.

They are the same thing so the Bible AND Christianity claim that Jesus IS Lucifer.

There has been over a thousands years of apologetics to dig their religion out of that hole. A religion of insanity and deciet.

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#144989 Dec 22, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
The point is that Hell exists whether you believe in it or not.
If you don't choose Jesus, you choose Hell.
That's just the way it is.
Some things'll never change.
Belief is inconsequential to whether or not something exists.

You haven't demonstrated, and nobody has, that it does exist. It's a subjective reality from which you make choices. I don't live in your reality, so I can't make choices based on YOUR perceptions.

Are you choosing to go to Murder Town?

There is a reason you haven't answered this.

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#144990 Dec 22, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok fine.....
A human is created.
A sun is created.
Art is created.
Poetry is created.
A canyon is formed, not created.
A waterway is formed, not created.
Rain is formed, not created.
Claim addressed.

See post: http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T... # 144987

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#144991 Dec 22, 2012
@Batty...

....Your conscience is the 'God'! What God r u looking for? What do u want God to be?

I don't know if there is a God or not, but the Guru proved that their belief can bring peace, but if people don't want to believe it then they still didn't force it.

You asked me, can atheism do what Sikhism did? But I really don't know. Maybe it can, but that's your belief, it's your job to prove it.

Why don't u atheists start your own organisation or something? Try to run your own community. Your rules, your way and then see.

I will say one thing; whether u believe in God or not it does not change the person u are. This is just a personal choice, that's all!

Mostly, all young kids believe in Santa, but still some kids r good and some kids r bad, not because it has anything to do with believing in Santa but because that's just the way they are.

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#144992 Dec 22, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
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Belief is inconsequential to whether or not something exists.
You haven't demonstrated, and nobody has, that it does exist. It's a subjective reality from which you make choices. I don't live in your reality, so I can't make choices based on YOUR perceptions.
Are you choosing to go to Murder Town?
There is a reason you haven't answered this.
Murder Town isn't too bad as long as you have a Murder Town insurance policy.

“I see quantum effects”

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#144993 Dec 22, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
The point is that Hell exists whether you believe in it or not.
If you don't choose Jesus, you choose Hell.
That's just the way it is.
Some things'll never change.
And THAT'S what's wrong with christianity.

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