Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#143422 Dec 14, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
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And a roll of 100 knot tape.
Hehehe.

Prolly BUILD an aircraft outta that stuff.

A 99-knot aircraft, but still...

Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#143423 Dec 14, 2012
Hmmmm You posted link less spam refusing to show your source. Typical cowardly bullsht. Again what is the largest CHRISTIAN denomination?
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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hmmmmm...... You answer a question with a question.
Nice evade.
Lets try again.
Question: What is the difference between Catholicism and Christianity?

Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#143424 Dec 14, 2012
He must belong to one of those wacky Pentecostal Sarah Palin type churches that scream they are the one true Christian church and all others are blasphemous demon worshippers.

There's like thousands of wacky nutter churches like that going on about how the pope is the anti Christ and such. Lol!
KittenKoder wrote:
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By your logic there are thousands of religions that are called christian but are not, you are also not a christian by your own logic.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#143425 Dec 14, 2012
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>What is your basis for the premiss that if a large wooden airplane can fly, then a large wooden boat could be seaworthy? Remember now, you just can't make stuff up, you have to support your idea, so I'll be waiting!!!!
The commonality between the Noah’s Ark and Hughes Spruce Goose has already been made.

Had or have critics, doubters, naysayer’s.

They were the largest creation of its type for the times.

Were as large as ships of today.

Both made of wood.

Finally both floated and eventually proved their critics wrong.
LargeLanguage

Abergele, UK

#143426 Dec 14, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
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Say what?
I have no idea. What is he on about anyway?
LargeLanguage

Abergele, UK

#143427 Dec 14, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
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Some think that their god thinks they are special.
He's more special than you for sure :)

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#143428 Dec 14, 2012
LargeLanguage wrote:
<quoted text>He's more special than you for sure :)
Yes.

Yes he is.
Anon

Lakewood, OH

#143429 Dec 14, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
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The commonality between the Noah’s Ark and Hughes Spruce Goose has already been made.
Had or have critics, doubters, naysayer’s.
They were the largest creation of its type for the times.
Were as large as ships of today.
Both made of wood.
Finally both floated and eventually proved their critics wrong.
Speaking of arks, where's the Ark of the Covenant these days? Strange that any evidence of your god is always shrouded in mystery.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#143430 Dec 14, 2012
Anon wrote:
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Speaking of arks, where's the Ark of the Covenant these days? Strange that any evidence of your god is always shrouded in mystery.
The Ark's Whereabouts

The Ark remained in the Temple until its destruction at the hand of the Babylonian empire, led by Nebuchadnezzar. What happened to it afterward is unknown, and has been debated and pondered for centuries. It is unlikely that the Babylonians took it, as they did the other vessels of the Temple, because the detailed lists of what they took make no mention of the Ark.

According to some sources, Josiah, one of the final kings to reign in the First Temple period, learned of the impending invasion of the Babylonians and hid the Ark. Where he hid it is also questionable – according to one midrash, he dug a hole under the wood storehouse on the Temple Mount and buried it there (Yoma 53b).

Another account says that Solomon foresaw the eventual destruction of the Temple, and set aside a cave near the Dead Sea, in which Josiah eventually hid the Ark (Maimonides, Laws of the Temple, 4:1).

One of the most fascinating possibilities is advanced by Ethiopian Christians who claim that they have the Ark today. In Axum, Ethiopia, it is widely believed that the Ark is currently being held in the Church of Saint Mary of Zion, guarded by a monk known as the "Keeper of the Ark," who claims to have it in his possesion. According to the Axum Christian community, they acquired the Ark during the reign of Solomon, when his son Menelik, whose mother was the Queen of Sheba, stole the Ark after a visit to Jerusalem.

While in the not-so-distant past the "Ark" has been brought out for Christian holidays, its keeper has not done so for several years due to the tumultuous political situation in the country. The claim has thus been impossible to verify, for no one but the monk is allowed into the tent.

A more plausible claim is that of archaeologist Leen Ritmeyer, who has conducted research on the Temple Mount and inside the Dome of the Rock. He claims to have found the spot on the Mount where the Holy of Holies was located during the First Temple period. In the precise center of that spot is a section of bedrock cut out in dimensions that may match those of the Ark as reported in Exodus.

This section of the mount, incidentally, is the one from which the creation of the world began, according to midrash (T. Kedoshim, 10). Based on his findings, Ritmeyer has postulated that the Ark may be buried deep inside the Temple Mount. However, it is unlikely that any excavation will ever be allowed on the Mount by the Muslim or Israeli authorities.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/J...

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#143431 Dec 14, 2012
Jesus had to get rid of that way before facebook was invented! Could you imagine all the updates he would be getting from believers?
Anon wrote:
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Speaking of arks, where's the Ark of the Covenant these days? Strange that any evidence of your god is always shrouded in mystery.
Anon

Lakewood, OH

#143432 Dec 14, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
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The Ark's Whereabouts
The Ark remained in the Temple until its destruction at the hand of the Babylonian empire, led by Nebuchadnezzar. What happened to it afterward is unknown, and has been debated and pondered for centuries. It is unlikely that the Babylonians took it, as they did the other vessels of the Temple, because the detailed lists of what they took make no mention of the Ark.
According to some sources, Josiah, one of the final kings to reign in the First Temple period, learned of the impending invasion of the Babylonians and hid the Ark. Where he hid it is also questionable – according to one midrash, he dug a hole under the wood storehouse on the Temple Mount and buried it there (Yoma 53b).
Another account says that Solomon foresaw the eventual destruction of the Temple, and set aside a cave near the Dead Sea, in which Josiah eventually hid the Ark (Maimonides, Laws of the Temple, 4:1).
One of the most fascinating possibilities is advanced by Ethiopian Christians who claim that they have the Ark today. In Axum, Ethiopia, it is widely believed that the Ark is currently being held in the Church of Saint Mary of Zion, guarded by a monk known as the "Keeper of the Ark," who claims to have it in his possesion. According to the Axum Christian community, they acquired the Ark during the reign of Solomon, when his son Menelik, whose mother was the Queen of Sheba, stole the Ark after a visit to Jerusalem.
While in the not-so-distant past the "Ark" has been brought out for Christian holidays, its keeper has not done so for several years due to the tumultuous political situation in the country. The claim has thus been impossible to verify, for no one but the monk is allowed into the tent.
A more plausible claim is that of archaeologist Leen Ritmeyer, who has conducted research on the Temple Mount and inside the Dome of the Rock. He claims to have found the spot on the Mount where the Holy of Holies was located during the First Temple period. In the precise center of that spot is a section of bedrock cut out in dimensions that may match those of the Ark as reported in Exodus.
This section of the mount, incidentally, is the one from which the creation of the world began, according to midrash (T. Kedoshim, 10). Based on his findings, Ritmeyer has postulated that the Ark may be buried deep inside the Temple Mount. However, it is unlikely that any excavation will ever be allowed on the Mount by the Muslim or Israeli authorities.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/J...
So, possibly one person is guarding it from political upheaval, and it's housed in a tent. That is one bad ass monk. The "plausible" explanation ain't much better.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#143433 Dec 14, 2012
Anon wrote:
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Speaking of arks, where's the Ark of the Covenant these days? Strange that any evidence of your god is always shrouded in mystery.
Don't think it odd that they misplaced their most sacred relic?

"Now lets see it was here yesterday.... now where did I put it???"

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#143434 Dec 14, 2012
I have heard the conspiracy about the one monk guarding the ark. Yes now that cameras and historical experts are looming about we simply can't allow anyone to see it! You can see the guard and the shack that holds it though... What do you mean the shack doesn't have the ark?! How dare you!

Lmfao!
Richardfs wrote:
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Don't think it odd that they misplaced their most sacred relic?
"Now lets see it was here yesterday.... now where did I put it???"

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#143435 Dec 14, 2012
I just want to express my sincere condolences to the families that lost members at the school shooting in CT.

This whole tragedy is so hard to comprehend. I’m just heartbroken because I have a 5 year old Grandson.

We as a nation will have to do more to protect our kids, in schools, restaurants, shopping malls, and all public events.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#143436 Dec 14, 2012
Yes it is indeed a sad day this gun nut goes wild kills his family and several innocent children. It's heart breaking.
Eagle12 wrote:
I just want to express my sincere condolences to the families that lost members at the school shooting in CT.
This whole tragedy is so hard to comprehend. I’m just heartbroken because I have a 5 year old Grandson.
We as a nation will have to do more to protect our kids, in schools, restaurants, shopping malls, and all public events.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#143437 Dec 14, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
Yes it is indeed a sad day this gun nut goes wild kills his family and several innocent children. It's heart breaking.
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Evil pure evil, why do yanks love guns so much?

Is it not time to do something about gun control?

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#143438 Dec 14, 2012
Anon wrote:
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Speaking of arks, where's the Ark of the Covenant these days? Strange that any evidence of your god is always shrouded in mystery.
Oh, I have that.

I'm using it for the "Suggestions" box in the First Hoplite Bar & Grill.
blacklagoon

Hyde Park, MA

#143439 Dec 14, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
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The commonality between the Noah’s Ark and Hughes Spruce Goose has already been made.
Had or have critics, doubters, naysayer’s.
They were the largest creation of its type for the times.
Were as large as ships of today.
Both made of wood.
Finally both floated and eventually proved their critics wrong.
Of course you're wrong here, there is NO commonality between the Spruce Goose and the Ark, aside from them both being constructed of wood. Of course all we have for information about the Ark is the bible, so it becomes sheer speculation that said Ark ever existed. We have documentation for the Spruce Goose, actual pictures, and film of its first and only flight. I can't believe you want to compare a plane to a boat as far a function goes. The plane only flew for one mile, at 70 feet about the water. The tail twisted violently on takeoff and most aerodynamic experts claim it was a miracle that the wings did not break.

Like most things in the bible there is absolutely no evidence that the Ark ever existed. We do know based on the dimensions given in the bible that no such craft could have possible lasted a year in the open ocean, especially with no means of propulsion. Without invoking Godmagic, the logistical problems show no such event could have happened.

This topic has been done to death, and unless you want to claim it happened with magic, there is no possible way it could occur. No you are terrible wrong when you claim "Both floated ands eventually proved their critics wrong." Only the spruce Goose floated, of that we are sure, the Ark is only a children's story with no substantial evidence and no possible means of achieving what is supposedly did without Godmagic. I don't believe in magic, I know its not real, do you really believe in magic?
downhill246

Boca Raton, FL

#143440 Dec 14, 2012
Richardfs wrote:
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Evil pure evil, why do yanks love guns so much?
Is it not time to do something about gun control?
Since the UK imposed strict gun control its violent crime rate is much higher than the US.

Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#143441 Dec 14, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
I just want to express my sincere condolences to the families that lost members at the school shooting in CT.
This whole tragedy is so hard to comprehend. I’m just heartbroken because I have a 5 year old Grandson.
We as a nation will have to do more to protect our kids, in schools, restaurants, shopping malls, and all public events.
I'm surprised you didn't immediately blame the carnage on atheism!

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