Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

Since: Oct 11

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#143254 Dec 12, 2012
River Tam wrote:
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Once again. This time wif feewing.
Not believing in something is not a belief system.
True! Not believing in ANYTHING is a belief in NOTHING, and nothing from nothing leaves nothing, which is the entire content of your soul.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#143255 Dec 12, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
Eagle12 wrote:
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If an wooden airplane as big as a ship can fly, then the Ark could be built and float.
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He came from a long line of wooden cigar Indians.
I hesitate to call anybody an imbecile.

But with Eagle, I have a hard time restraining myself.

“God of War”

Since: Dec 10

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#143256 Dec 12, 2012
Sambrotherofnephi wrote:
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As one of those people who has gone door to door talking to people about religion, I want to let you know I wasn't trying to force my belief on any one.
I have found a faith that brings incredible happiness to my family and me, and so I want to share that happiness with others.
There is nothing wrong with faith as long as it is a positive motivator, some people need this. You have said it fulfills something in you . When we talk evidence however , scientifically
to qualify as such the criteria is clear.

Information that is acquired by observation or experimentation,
thus it has to be demonstrable , and repeatable to pass peer review. Sadly this is where evidence of religious nature falls short. So compelling evidence in a scientific manner would have to be verifiable. Hearsay is not evidence , neither are claims from a single source of reference.

This is why your faith is divorced from compelling evidence, as it does not require it. I'm afraid religion is built upon the fallacious and superstitious minds. This does not have to be a bad thing , we all need the gathering for certain unavoidable circumstance life and death brings.

But you will have to understand the nature of religion to truly understand the motivating factors of organized religion.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#143257 Dec 12, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
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I hesitate to call anybody an imbecile.
But with Eagle, I have a hard time restraining myself.
[Tipping hat] My compliments.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#143258 Dec 12, 2012
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>You don't have to be a scientist to know how science works, no more than you don't have to be a trained musician to know and understand how music works. A simple music appreciate class is sufficient to understand even complex music, I teach them all the time.
When someone makes such an astonishingly stupid observation as a mile high glacier melting and causing a global flood, one of two things is possible. Either someone has taken an article he has written and twisted it to accommodate this mythical flood, or the man is an idiot, there is no third choice. A mile high glacier would be 2842 miles long, from CT to the North Pole. Forget about his credentials, just how long do you think it would take to melt this 2342 miles of mile high ice to melt? A rough estimate will be fine. Second question, do you really think Noah lived during the Pliocene era some 20 million years ago, because thats approximately when the polar ice spread down into North America?
In order to accept his premiss both these questions have to be answered. You don't need to know anything about science to realize how long that much ice would take to melt. Nor do you have to be a scientist to know anything about the Pliocene era and the ice age.
Iím not an oceanographer or an expert on the ice age. I do know that ice and snow in North America can melt pretty damn fast. Causing widespread flooding all the way to the Gulf of Mexico.

When I lived in Arizona there were these deep canals that were nearly always dry. There would be signs saying,ďDanger - Flash Flood Area.Ē At the time it looked like a joke because the canals were dry as a bone and this was the desert.

But at certain times of the year a wall of water comes rushing down the mountains. Like a dam break sort of speak. Thereís no slow trickle of water or gradual increase in the water level in the canal. One minute the canals are bone dry. The next 10 seconds there is a massive wave of water moving down the canal.

Itís hard to understand when you havenít seen that kind of water movement. It wouldnít matter if you were a Olympic swimmer. The water would take you down. Lots of people have drowned in these canals because they donít believe a flash flood can happen in seconds.

As water begins to melt it pools up in certain areas in the mountains. Ice and debris prevents the water from flowing down into the valley. Then the natural ice dam breaks and a wall of water come gushing down at a pretty rapid clip.

I said that to say thereís a lot you donít know about ocean science Doctor. You may think you do but itís not your field of discipline. Flooding doesnít have to be from melting ice. A earthquake in the oceans can send a wall of water higher than a 10 story building. Japan knows something about that kind of energy. And itís not a slow gradual flood. It happens in seconds.

Since: Mar 11

United States

#143259 Dec 12, 2012
Hard to believe that in today's day and age people would still believe that a sky wizard got angry at babies nursing and flooded the entire earth.
Eagle12 wrote:
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Iím not an oceanographer or an expert on anything.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#143260 Dec 13, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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How many werewolf believers are trying to make carrying silver illegal?
I think that carrying silver should be mandatory.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#143261 Dec 13, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
Hard to believe that in today's day and age people would still believe that a sky wizard got angry at babies nursing and flooded the entire earth.
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&fe ature=g-high-f

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#143262 Dec 13, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
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Hughes H-4 Hercules, also known as the "Spruce Goose."
Was built out of wood, weigh 400,000 pounds, 218 feet long, wing span of 320 feet, and be five stories tall. At the time (1947) it was the largest aircraft ever built. It held that record for decades.
Critics claimed that it was not air worthy, it was too big and would not be able to fly because it was heavy. It was a ship with wings.
Wiki:
During a Senate hearing on August 6, 1947 (the first of a series of appearances), Hughes said:
{The Hercules was a monumental undertaking. It is the largest aircraft ever built. It is over five stories tall with a wingspan longer than a football field. That's more than a city block. Now, I put the sweat of my life into this thing. I have my reputation all rolled up in it and I have stated several times that if it's a failure I'll probably leave this country and never come back. And I mean it}.
If an wooden airplane as big as a ship can fly, then the Ark could be built and float.
I see you are still taking you dumb pills.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#143263 Dec 13, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>There are a lot of 'maybe's' in that article!

But here's the stupid test: Could a wooden ship withstand the deluge that magnitude? No. Hell, we still cannot make one that huge out of wood, let alone make it float!

So no, it did not pass the stupid test.
Which also raises the question:

What happened with all the ice from the poles and glaciers?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#143264 Dec 13, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>If I can add a fact here, Boss continues to be, besides stupid as hell, nasty as sh*t.

Hey Boss that's not ad hominem: as I said, it's the fact.

Now get back to your bible.
That's why I don't mind pointing out his stupidity.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#143265 Dec 13, 2012
Clementia wrote:
<quoted text>I'm in a league of my own, sunshine, there's no comparison, LOL.

Bra's are annoying pieces of.....that give ya nothing but pain, burn them, burn them!!!!!!!
I agree!

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#143266 Dec 13, 2012
Clementia wrote:
<quoted text>But I don't know where to start, I'll do it wrong.
There's an editor function.

And don't worry about doing it wrong. All of your entries will be checked before they are added.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#143268 Dec 13, 2012
bossdrop wrote:
<quoted text>You're lying. You read the whole post, and it pissed you the heck off LOL. good!

I have been great,'bout yourself?
You've just broken a commandment.

Now you're going to hell.

I'm enjoying reality. You should try it sometime.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#143269 Dec 13, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>On the stove sets a black pot with a lid and a black kettle.

The black pot calls the kettle,¬ďYou¬íre nothing but an cheap black kettle with no glass. You don¬ít even have a top.¬Ē

The Kettle looks surprised because the pot was black too. And also was cheap with no glass. Yes it’s true he didn’t have a pot head. But he didn’t need one.

So the moral of the story, pots and pot heads need to take a close look themselves before criticizing others.
You really need to stop writing your own material.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#143270 Dec 13, 2012
Clementia wrote:
<quoted text>Oh God, I'm not angry!! My religion doesn't believe in converting people, I told you that you are welcome to those sikhs, my religion and I have no problem, we don't bloody care! My belief is my belief, yours is yours, stop forcing it on people. I don't think like you christians/muslims my mind is at peace.

Do you know when the khalsa was chosen by my 10th guru didn't say come and convert and be khalsa and go to heaven, they said God wants sacrifice, give your head to God if you truly believe in your God. Out of 50,000 or so sikhs only 5 got up to give their head to God. The guru didn't kill them instead he baptised them and took baptism from them and said these are the true believers in God.

Guru/God doesn't want the sheep, other religions can have them, we want the pure one's that will die for their faith, not the cowards. When death comes I hope God gives me the strength to accept my destiny. If my God wants me to go to hell then so be it!
I hope I die in my sleep, like my father.

Not screaming in terror like his passengers.

Since: Apr 11

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#143271 Dec 13, 2012
Clementia wrote:
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hmmmm, what are you talking about, liberty guy?
@Tide....CASHEW!!!:-)
14Dec12.....

.....'blipertyFly' used da vord 'basically.....

Ps:....So it doesn't know vot its talking about.

Forever and Ever
BobLoblah

Since: Apr 11

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#143272 Dec 13, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
Therearea lot of 'maybe's' in thatarticle! But here's the stupid test: Coulda wooden ship withstand the deluge that magnitude? No. Hell, we still cannot make one that huge out of wood, letalone make it float! So no, it did not pass the stupid test.
14Dec12.....

.....A Dutchman has built a replica of Noah's Ark to biblical proportions, following a dream his homeland would be flooded.

Johan Huibers, a wealthy businessman, used the ancient measurement of the cubit -- the length of a man's arm from elbow to fingertips -- to build the vessel to the dimensions specified in the book of Genesis.

The finished craft -- which has just been opened to the public on the Merwede River in the Dutch town of Dordrecht -- is 300 cubits long (about 450 feet or 137 meters), 50 cubits wide (about 70 feet or 21 meters), and 30 cubits high (about 45 feet or 14 meters).

Floods force evacuations in Costa Rica

Huibers has filled his ark, which will operate as a "Bible museum," with life-sized plastic animals and an aviary of live birds to give visitors more to interact with.

"We want to tell people about God," Huibers told AFP. "We wanted to build something that can help explain the Bible in real terms."

It is not Huibers' first ark. He completed his first, a half-scale replica of Noah's Ark, in 2004, and used it to take tourists on canal trips, before beginning work on a full-scale version in 2008.

The origin of the project stems from a dream Huibers said he had in 1992, in which the low-lying Netherlands was flooded by the North Sea.

More damage expected after floods in North Korea kill dozens

"The next day I bought a book about Noah's Ark. That night while sitting on the couch with my kids, I looked at it and said:'It's what we're going to do,'" he told AFP. "I have always been a dreamer."

He resolved to build the ark, to inspire children with the biblical story of how Noah and the inhabitants of his Ark survived the flood that, according to Old Testament, washed the world clean of sin.

Despite his best efforts, it was impossible to adhere entirely to the biblical description of the Ark. Genesis describes Noah's boat as made of "gopher wood," but experts disagree over what this is.

Instead, Huibers and his team built the boat by welding together the metal hulls of 25 barges into a single frame, which was then covered with Scandinavian pine. Weighing about 3,000 tons, the boat contains sleeping quarters, a theater, restaurant and conference facilities to seat 1,500 people.

Ps:.....BobLoblah has visited dis von tooooooooooooo.

Pretty Good.

Forever and Ever
BobLoblah
dr fill

Des Plaines, IL

#143273 Dec 13, 2012
Clementia wrote:
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Oh God, I'm not angry!! My religion doesn't believe in converting people, I told you that you are welcome to those sikhs, my religion and I have no problem, we don't bloody care! My belief is my belief, yours is yours, stop forcing it on people. I don't think like you christians/muslims my mind is at peace.
Do you know when the khalsa was chosen by my 10th guru didn't say come and convert and be khalsa and go to heaven, they said God wants sacrifice, give your head to God if you truly believe in your God. Out of 50,000 or so sikhs only 5 got up to give their head to God. The guru didn't kill them instead he baptised them and took baptism from them and said these are the true believers in God.
Guru/God doesn't want the sheep, other religions can have them, we want the pure one's that will die for their faith, not the cowards. When death comes I hope God gives me the strength to accept my destiny. If my God wants me to go to hell then so be it!
Ok my darling clemingtime,I'll put a good word in for ya with the big guy!!!I see your all flustered about where you might go upon your death.Now im sticking my neck out girl you owe me big time.I got alot of clout.So dont fret about your torrid past and all the nasty things you have done.I'll have your slate cleaned.Your welcome cleming time.Thats what Im here for to help.

Since: Apr 11

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#143274 Dec 13, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
Whileallatheists may have beliefs, what theyall have in common is that they do *not* havea belief ina god.
14Dec12.....

....LIAR....

Yes, they do so.

Ps:....Take away the 'salary' of the President of the American hAtheist Association and he would curse both you and GOD to da nines.

Forever and Ever
BobLoblah

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