Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Thinking

Cirencester, UK

#143312 Dec 13, 2012
Claims.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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It's pretty simple:
Agnostic theist - "I don't think we can know if there's a god or not, but I choose to believe in one."
Agnostic atheist - "I don't think we can know if there's a god or not, but I don't believe there is."
Gnostic theist - "I know for certain that there is a god."
Gnostic atheist - "I know for certain that there is no god."

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#143313 Dec 13, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Close.

A gnostic atheist "knows" there is no God.

Since this is something they can't know, there's no such thing as a gnostic atheist.
Ok.

If that's the case, then there's no such thing as a theist.

Or a Christian.

Again...thank you.

I love it when you do my work FOR me.

Eagle12

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#143314 Dec 13, 2012
_BobLoblah_ wrote:
<quoted text>14Dec12.....
.....LIAR....
You don't worry about noBody or nuttin'.
Ps:....You contradict yourself. While professing to be a hatheist, then why worry about people when, according to you and your ILK, you're NOT going anywheres when you suck in your last breath anyways!!!
...You are toooooooooo selfish to worry about noBody or nuttin'.
Forever and Ever
BobLoblah
You just may be on to something, with the word “hatheist,” perhaps it could be hatetheist or angryatheist. How about assholeatheist?

Why are these people always so angry?

Like someone shot their favorite horse or in the case of Catcher, his ass.

Eagle12

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#143315 Dec 13, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
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Ok.
If that's the case, then there's no such thing as a theist.
Or a Christian.
Again...thank you.
I love it when you do my work FOR me.
This coming from the man who gains high altitude without ever leaving the ground.

Man get off all that dope and go skydiving. It’s much safer than dope and is a lot more fun.

Eagle12

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#143316 Dec 13, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
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So catholics are christians.
Thank you.
So atheist are as*holes.

Thank you.

Eagle12

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#143317 Dec 13, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
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So catholics are christians.
Thank you.
Don't take it personal, I'm just having a little fun.

[handshake with a smile]
Thinking

Cirencester, UK

#143318 Dec 13, 2012
Not a problem, cu*t.
Eagle12 wrote:
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Don't take it personal, I'm just having a little fun.
[handshake with a smile]

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#143319 Dec 13, 2012
Yes Christians have stood in the way of science for centuries.

My analogy was spot on you just didn't like it. Werewolves vs Jesus? Never checked on werewolves go ahead go nuts half wit. Now Jesus vs Hercules? Jesus loses hands down for historical proof.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Are Christians trying to stop science for any reason?
Your analogy is flawed - as usual.
To you, I'd assume that Jesus is as fake as werewolves. Why then aren't you out there getting an anit-werewolf propaganda machine going?

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#143320 Dec 13, 2012
Same here and she refers to herself as a dedicated Christian.
Thinking wrote:
Easy as. I'm married to a catholic christian.
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Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#143321 Dec 13, 2012
Still humiliating yourself riverside retard? Christians believe in Jesus, Catholics believe in Jesus. You say Catholics are not Christians so you are indeed saying Catholics do not believe on Jesus no matter how much you stomp your feet and scream.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Once again (you f_ckin retard), I've never said that Catholics don't believe in Jesus.
I said they worship very differently than Christians.
What the f_ck is wrong with you?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#143322 Dec 13, 2012
Thinking wrote:
Easy as. I'm married to a catholic christian.
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Question: What is the difference between Catholicism and Biblical Christianity?

Answer: Catholicism and Biblical Christianity are divergent religions. They are built on different foundations, and they propose different ways of salvation.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#143323 Dec 13, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
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Ok.
If that's the case, then there's no such thing as a theist.
Or a Christian.
Again...thank you.
I love it when you do my work FOR me.
Holy shit!

Aero just typed more than 5 words!

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#143324 Dec 13, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
Still humiliating yourself riverside retard? Christians believe in Jesus, Catholics believe in Jesus. You say Catholics are not Christians so you are indeed saying Catholics do not believe on Jesus no matter how much you stomp your feet and scream.
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Question: What is the difference between Catholicism and Biblical Christianity?

Answer: Catholicism and Biblical Christianity are divergent religions. They are built on different foundations, and they propose different ways of salvation.

In principle, Christianity is built solely on the Holy Scriptures, the written Word of God.

Roman Catholicism demands submission of the intellect and will to the doctrines taught by the Roman magisterium (the Pope and bishops).

As expected, since the foundations are different, so also are the edifices built upon them. Christianity stands on the Gospel of God's sovereign grace. In love, God predestines His chosen ones to be adopted as sons through Jesus Christ, their sole mediator. The Son became man and gave His life as a ransom to secure their freedom from sin. Being dead in sin, they are completely unable to convert ourselves or merit God's favour. Therefore God graciously grants His people repentance and faith to turn to Him and trust in Christ Jesus for salvation. Believers are accepted in Christ, solely on the merit of His righteousness and blood, and not because of any goodness or human merit. God also resides in His people by the Holy Spirit, enabling them to obey and glorify the Father, and to guarantee their inheritance in heaven forever.

Rome's "gospel" is not good news at all. The Roman institution, calling itself "The Church", usurps Christ's mediatorial office, proclaiming herself as the "sacrament of salvation." The "Church" dispenses salvation to her faithful in small portions, starting at baptism and continuing throughout life. Forgiveness can only be obtained through the sacrament of penance. The benefits of Christ's sacrifice are accessible through the sacrifice of the Mass. Instead of teaching the faithful to rest in Christ by faith, Catholics are taught to perform religious works to "merit grace" and to do penance to make satisfaction. Even after death, Catholics remains dependent on the "Church" to relieve their suffering in Purgatory by masses and indulgences.

Very, very different religions.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#143326 Dec 13, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Holy shit!

Aero just typed more than 5 words!
That your best shot?

Not surprising.
Thinking

Cirencester, UK

#143327 Dec 13, 2012
Don't care. Nothing worth fighting over.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Question: What is the difference between Catholicism and Biblical Christianity?
Answer: Catholicism and Biblical Christianity are divergent religions. They are built on different foundations, and they propose different ways of salvation.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#143328 Dec 13, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
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That your best shot?
Not surprising.
It's hard to knock down trolls like you.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#143329 Dec 13, 2012
Sambrotherofnephi wrote:
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As one of those people who has gone door to door talking to people about religion, I want to let you know I wasn't trying to force my belief on any one.
I have found a faith that brings incredible happiness to my family and me, and so I want to share that happiness with others.
Well, good for you!:-)

What you have to understand is that other people have found happiness from other beliefs/non-beliefs. We should understand that we all have the freedom to choose our own path.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#143330 Dec 13, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Not necessary for me to do it.
You're the one claiming that people get happier when they drop religion and "live there lives"....
What do you athitards say?
You made the assertion, the onus is on YOU to prove it, or admit that's just your opinion.
At this point I have mostly anectdotal evidence. In my own case, I became much happier when I stopped pretending to believe (for the sake of my grandparents) and simply stated that I did not. I have discussed this with others who found a new happiness because they didn't have to attempt to divine the desires of some inscrutible deity and they learned to make their own decisions and take responsibility for their own lives. This is incredibly liberating.

I proposed a couple of methods to test this more generally, but you claimed that the inherent bias of self-reporting would invalidate any conclusions. While I disagree, I do see your point on this. But I would also then point out that any self-reporting from the religious side about *their* happiness is inadmissable.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#143331 Dec 13, 2012
_BobLoblah_ wrote:
<quoted text>14Dec12.....
.....He is surprised at your 'filty' mouth.
Ps:....and BobLoblah does NOt like it toooooooooo.
Forever and Ever
Bobloblah
What? What did I say that was filthy?

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#143332 Dec 13, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
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Sounds like hubris.
I think that will earn YOU hell.
That's what they don't get, they think they're perfect.

So your dad was a pilot? was that story true?

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