Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.
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Tide with Beach wrote:
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Have you seen it?
It reminded me a little of Planet of the Apes and a lot of surprise diarrhea.
Yes, but I consider this to be the definitive version.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, dear.

It's not a replica.

It's not "launched": it's sitting at a damn dock.

It's a total fake.
And it's reinforced with steel.

And they want to take it somewhere, but they will need to take it on an even bigger boat.

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Sambrotherofnephi wrote:
<quoted text>Not at the moment...just a question. Why do atheists advertise or promote their belief system?
What belief system?

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Catcher1 wrote:
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Thank you for responding to me doctor.[tips hat] Scientists make mistakes with science. We can't be sure our science is more accurate than the bible.
Next time I'll tell you about the Emperor who had no clothes. It shows atheist don't understand.
Bless you.
Eerily accurate.

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I don’t think I would ever invest in such a reproduction. It’s very costly and expensive to keep up. But several have been built around the globe. I just can’t believe someone in the Netherlands would fund this operation.
Twit.

The builder wanted to sail it (okay, have it towed) to London for the Olympics.
He couldn't get a Certificate of Seaworthiness from any country on the planet, even Liberia.

He couldn't get insurance from any company in the world, even Lloyd's of London, and they normally insure anything - at premiums they decide are appropriate.

The City of London didn't want it. Apart from the distinct danger that it might well sink and bollock up navigation, it coulda damaged the Thames Barrier.

It was regarded as a fire hazard, even if it'd been moored in London.

"Reproduction"? It was built on a frame of 37 steel barges welded together. I'm fairly sure that wasn't an option in Noah's day.

It was, not to put too fine a point on it, a total and utter clusterfuck.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Woah.

One time I held in a fart in an elevator....
That's nothing unless there's only one other person.

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Aerobatty wrote:
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What belief system?
The belief system that's based on the belief that there is no God.

That one.

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blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, of course you're right, think how much better off we would be without science.
1.) No clean water, or fresh food.
2.) No sewerage treatment plants.
3.) No refrigeration, or plumbing.
4.) No communication, automobiles or airplanes.
5.) No electricity, aid conditioning, or heating.
6.) No medical advancements, or vaccines.
7.) ABSOLUTELY NO UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THE WORLD AROUND YOU WORKS.
Yes without science we would be much better off. Life expectancy would be around 30 years old, plagues would continue to wipe out millions with regularity. The numbers of still born babies equivalent to those during the dark ages. A mere infect could kill you or your loved ones. sanitary conditions would be something you can't even imagine, or course accompanied by a variety of nasty diseases. And in the end, without science you would still be huddled in the back of your cave banging two bones together asking the thunder God to bring more game.
You go right ahead and deny science, I'll take my chances with a building falling on my head, or getting electrocuted. I figure it's a worthy risk considering the myriad of things science does to make MY LIFE BETTER. Sorry it's not working for you.
Oh, By the way, without the fact of evolution, there would be zero medical advancements in the treatment of a whole bunch of diseases. Now, good sir, back to your cave and get busy with those bones!!!!!!
...and we'd all still be drinking beer for breakfast,'cos the water's not safe.

Oh, wait...

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Aerobatty wrote:
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That's nothing unless there's only one other person.
There was like 5 people in there....

So I do my part.

I hold my fart.

Sometimes.

While at dinner party, Redneck farts.
A non-redneck says “How dare you fart in front of my wife”.
Redneck says “Sorry, I didn’t realize it was her turn”.
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Us the Government:

USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

The majority of Us the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; elects President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

That complies with Realities demands every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables President and Congress to avoid fiscal cliff and balance every budget.

Us the Government reelecting Obnoxious President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

That holds Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax bated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. That gets only product or service. With money derived from wages, investment and independent business profit.

This is bankrupting USA. Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot afford life and pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.

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macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Twit.
The builder wanted to sail it (okay, have it towed) to London for the Olympics.
He couldn't get a Certificate of Seaworthiness from any country on the planet, even Liberia.
He couldn't get insurance from any company in the world, even Lloyd's of London, and they normally insure anything - at premiums they decide are appropriate.
The City of London didn't want it. Apart from the distinct danger that it might well sink and bollock up navigation, it coulda damaged the Thames Barrier.
It was regarded as a fire hazard, even if it'd been moored in London.
"Reproduction"? It was built on a frame of 37 steel barges welded together. I'm fairly sure that wasn't an option in Noah's day.
It was, not to put too fine a point on it, a total and utter clusterfuck.
bollock?
Thinking

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Steel framed? What a bunch of liars they are.

Maybe he only had the junior noah book to work from...

www.youtube.com/watch...
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Twit.
The builder wanted to sail it (okay, have it towed) to London for the Olympics.
He couldn't get a Certificate of Seaworthiness from any country on the planet, even Liberia.
He couldn't get insurance from any company in the world, even Lloyd's of London, and they normally insure anything - at premiums they decide are appropriate.
The City of London didn't want it. Apart from the distinct danger that it might well sink and bollock up navigation, it coulda damaged the Thames Barrier.
It was regarded as a fire hazard, even if it'd been moored in London.
"Reproduction"? It was built on a frame of 37 steel barges welded together. I'm fairly sure that wasn't an option in Noah's day.
It was, not to put too fine a point on it, a total and utter clusterfuck.
Thinking

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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The belief system that's based on the belief that there is no God.
That one.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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The belief system that's based on the belief that there is no God.
That one.
Do you do this on purpose?

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Sambrotherofnephi wrote:
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Not at the moment...just a question. Why do atheists advertise or promote their belief system?
We don't have a belief system. That ad you posted was just a reminder that we can enjoy our lives without religion or a belief in god. Very,*very* subversive statement, I know. We should stop being so uppity.

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Sambrotherofnephi wrote:
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Not at the moment...just a question. Why do atheists advertise or promote their belief system?
What belief system?

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Aerobatty wrote:
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What belief system?
Good question.

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macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, dear.
It's not a replica.
It's not "launched": it's sitting at a damn dock.
It's a total fake.
According to duckie12, Noah's didn't launch either! The flood was only 20 feet high! LOL! Kill every living thing, but only 20 ft high!

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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The belief system that's based on the belief that there is no God.
That one.
Can you produce anything from this "belief system"?

If it's only one belief, it's not a system.

So, what else is part of the system?

Did you just make it up?

What is that belief system called, and do you know of anyone that follows it?

Besides that, we've told you before, again and again, basic atheism is the lack of belief in gods.

No valid definition of atheism invokes the name of any specific deity.

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Tide with Beach wrote:
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What belief system?
The belief system of not believing in a belief system, maybe?

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