Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story
Loren Eberly

Bellefontaine, OH

#142998 Dec 11, 2012
Us the Government:

USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

The majority of Us the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; elects President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

That complies with Realities demands every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables President and Congress to avoid fiscal cliff and balance every budget.

Us the Government reelecting Obnoxious President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

That holds Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax bated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. That gets only product or service. With money derived from wages, investment and independent business profit.

This is bankrupting USA. Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot afford life and pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#142999 Dec 11, 2012
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Twit.
The builder wanted to sail it (okay, have it towed) to London for the Olympics.
He couldn't get a Certificate of Seaworthiness from any country on the planet, even Liberia.
He couldn't get insurance from any company in the world, even Lloyd's of London, and they normally insure anything - at premiums they decide are appropriate.
The City of London didn't want it. Apart from the distinct danger that it might well sink and bollock up navigation, it coulda damaged the Thames Barrier.
It was regarded as a fire hazard, even if it'd been moored in London.
"Reproduction"? It was built on a frame of 37 steel barges welded together. I'm fairly sure that wasn't an option in Noah's day.
It was, not to put too fine a point on it, a total and utter clusterfuck.
bollock?
Thinking

Andover, UK

#143000 Dec 11, 2012
Steel framed? What a bunch of liars they are.

Maybe he only had the junior noah book to work from...

www.youtube.com/watch...
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Twit.
The builder wanted to sail it (okay, have it towed) to London for the Olympics.
He couldn't get a Certificate of Seaworthiness from any country on the planet, even Liberia.
He couldn't get insurance from any company in the world, even Lloyd's of London, and they normally insure anything - at premiums they decide are appropriate.
The City of London didn't want it. Apart from the distinct danger that it might well sink and bollock up navigation, it coulda damaged the Thames Barrier.
It was regarded as a fire hazard, even if it'd been moored in London.
"Reproduction"? It was built on a frame of 37 steel barges welded together. I'm fairly sure that wasn't an option in Noah's day.
It was, not to put too fine a point on it, a total and utter clusterfuck.
Thinking

Andover, UK

#143001 Dec 11, 2012
No.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
The belief system that's based on the belief that there is no God.
That one.

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#143002 Dec 11, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
The belief system that's based on the belief that there is no God.
That one.
Do you do this on purpose?

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#143003 Dec 11, 2012
Sambrotherofnephi wrote:
<quoted text>
Not at the moment...just a question. Why do atheists advertise or promote their belief system?
We don't have a belief system. That ad you posted was just a reminder that we can enjoy our lives without religion or a belief in god. Very,*very* subversive statement, I know. We should stop being so uppity.

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#143004 Dec 11, 2012
Sambrotherofnephi wrote:
<quoted text>
Not at the moment...just a question. Why do atheists advertise or promote their belief system?
What belief system?

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#143005 Dec 11, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
What belief system?
Good question.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#143006 Dec 11, 2012
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, dear.
It's not a replica.
It's not "launched": it's sitting at a damn dock.
It's a total fake.
According to duckie12, Noah's didn't launch either! The flood was only 20 feet high! LOL! Kill every living thing, but only 20 ft high!

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#143007 Dec 11, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
The belief system that's based on the belief that there is no God.
That one.
Can you produce anything from this "belief system"?

If it's only one belief, it's not a system.

So, what else is part of the system?

Did you just make it up?

What is that belief system called, and do you know of anyone that follows it?

Besides that, we've told you before, again and again, basic atheism is the lack of belief in gods.

No valid definition of atheism invokes the name of any specific deity.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#143008 Dec 11, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
What belief system?
The belief system of not believing in a belief system, maybe?

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#143009 Dec 11, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
The belief system that's based on the belief that there is no God.
That one.
yh, i think that's what i was gettin' at.

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#143010 Dec 11, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Do you do this on purpose?
I've told him, others have told him, I'm going to start viciously insulting him from now on.

The dude is so brainwashed that he can appear to have learned something one day, and have forgotten it by the next day.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#143011 Dec 11, 2012
Sambrotherofnephi wrote:
<quoted text>
Not at the moment...just a question. Why do atheists advertise or promote their belief system?
So that they can make the world a better place!

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#143012 Dec 11, 2012
Clementia wrote:
<quoted text>
The belief system of not believing in a belief system, maybe?
If standing still is dancing, if baldness is a hair color, if not collecting stamps is a hobby...

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#143013 Dec 11, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
Can you produce anything from this "belief system"?
If it's only one belief, it's not a system.
So, what else is part of the system?
Did you just make it up?
What is that belief system called, and do you know of anyone that follows it?
Besides that, we've told you before, again and again, basic atheism is the lack of belief in gods.
No valid definition of atheism invokes the name of any specific deity.
But I thought atheists have a belief but just not a religious or supernatural one?

Isn't a belief something that you think is true? You think that religion is wrong, so you think your opinion is true, so is that not a belief?

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#143014 Dec 11, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
If standing still is dancing, if baldness is a hair color, if not collecting stamps is a hobby...
Everyone has their own understanding! hehehehehe

Sikhism denied religion, but it too is called a religion now, that's how things are in this world, people assume and put name tags on you.

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#143015 Dec 11, 2012
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>"Minority Report" came close.
I could write a better story than that. I almost did in this post but decided to just keep that to myself.
blacklagoon

Hyde Park, MA

#143016 Dec 11, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Silly troll, elegance, sophistication & social graces are open for interpretation. YOU don't get to define them based on your little world.
Understanding, empathy & social interaction is lost on you.
There is NO interpretation of your classless comments on post #142946. Under any decent social environment they would be considered rude, classless, and grotesque. Although it's probably acceptable amongst your hillbilly friends, here in the civilized part of the country you would be looked on with revulsion and pity.
blacklagoon

Hyde Park, MA

#143017 Dec 11, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
I got a good laugh at the atheist ad: "There's probably no God"
HA HA HA HA!!!!
What an argument, huh?
And Dick Dawkins is standing there admiring the ad........
He's thinking " Yup, this'll work!"
There is NO argument to be had, there probably is no God. And thats the polite rendition, I like this one better. Due to the complete and utter lack of evidence there simply is no God. Or.........The evidence for God is the same as there is for werewolves.

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