Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

“Ditat Deus”

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#142980 Dec 11, 2012
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Do you somehow take perverse pleasure in being totally classless, or is it standard fare for that part of the country? Elegance, Sophistication, and social graces, appear to be non-existent with you.
Silly troll, elegance, sophistication & social graces are open for interpretation. YOU don't get to define them based on your little world.

Understanding, empathy & social interaction is lost on you.

Since: Sep 12

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#142981 Dec 11, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
We don't advertise that way.
Atheist Ad: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/jan/21/a...

Religious Ad: http://ldsmediatalk.com/wp-content/uploads/20...

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#142982 Dec 11, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>
Donated 6 gallons of blood including platelets.
The platelets required at least 2 hour per secession while they separated them.(Used for cancer patients).
Red Cross donations. Every Year.
Salvation Army donations.
Food bank donations. Every Year.
Paid for medication for a couple I didn’t know,$100.00 worth.
Feed the homeless in a shelter in downtown Houston for two years.
Helped fund a private School in Russia.
Supplied all the new books and computers for the school in Russia.$ 6,000.00 donation
Paid for summer camp for 30 low income kid and then volunteered to work that camp.
Opened up my home to a couple expecting a baby. They had no money and no job. They stayed for 6 months rent free.(I wasn’t related to them).
Bought gasoline for people I didn’t know.
Paid for new car batteries for a family.(I wasn’t related to them).
Gave $200.00 to a man who broke his leg and was unable to work. He was a independent contractor.(No insurance).
Bought new clothes & shoes for low income families.
Gave $200.00 to a family who lost their house to a fire.
Bought groceries on several occasions for low income families.
Highway clean up (volunteered).
Adopted animals from the SPCA. One I still have.
Made donations to the SPCA.
Adopted stray animals.
Made countless donations to Goodwill Industries.
Regular Donor to the United Way for over 20 years. Average donation was $1200.00 per year.
None of the above examples was to family members. There’s a much longer list for family members.
Visited the sick in hospitals. People I didn’t know or wasn’t related too.
All this is a partial list.
Woah.

One time I held in a fart in an elevator....

Since: Oct 11

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#142983 Dec 11, 2012
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>Not all pastors are the same. I know of one who went to Africa as a missionary, took his pregnant wife and two daughters to live a meager subsistence in what he called a "service to God". The environment they lived in was not what you could compare to suburbs in America. I questioned him about whether he thought his work there was truly productive or beneficial in any way to his potential converts or his family. His response wasn't exactly what I expected. He said that he was doing his Christian duty to make sure the Word was heard in every nation and that everybody should have a chance to hear it. He mentioned that the main lure he used to get the natives there to attend his sermons was the offer of freebies of food and clothing. He jokingly called it "Melon day" and that his converts were "melon converts". I asked him if that wasn't a bit frustrating and how could he ever be sure that his converts were sincere if material goods were their original interest. He said that all that mattered was that they heard the "Word" and after that it was up to them, what they decided on was of no concern to him; it was their "free will" in action. He couldn't stop the handouts just because the attendees might not be sincere. Of course some of the money that was donated to his church was spent on upkeep of that building but it also went to buying all the fresh fruit and vegetables for the natives in his area. the expense had to be considerable since he was there for more than two years. He lived in places where there were no civilized amenities to speak of, no running water and the like. I know I wouldn't have wanted to be dragged around the world to live like his daughters had to, all of it just to "save souls".
Well, that's what it's all about, isn't it? Personal sacrifice, selflessness and putting the needs of others ahead of those of your own versus selfishness?

Some simply see a need and rise to the challenge of filling it, selflessly.

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#142984 Dec 11, 2012
Sambrotherofnephi wrote:
Would you like to make a point?

Since: Sep 12

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#142985 Dec 11, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
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Would you like to make a point?
Not at the moment...just a question. Why do atheists advertise or promote their belief system?

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#142986 Dec 11, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
Life-sized Noah's Ark launches
A full-scale replica of Noah's Ark has opened its doors to the public in the Netherlands.(Dec. 10)
http://news.yahoo.com/photos/life-sized-noah-...
Oh, dear.

It's not a replica.

It's not "launched": it's sitting at a damn dock.

It's a total fake.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#142987 Dec 11, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
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There were cod-pieces?
How did I miss that?
The only movie I dislike more is The Butterfly Effect.
"Minority Report" came close.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#142988 Dec 11, 2012
Sambrotherofnephi wrote:
I got a good laugh at the atheist ad: "There's probably no God"

HA HA HA HA!!!!

What an argument, huh?

And Dick Dawkins is standing there admiring the ad........

He's thinking " Yup, this'll work!"

Since: Sep 11

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#142989 Dec 11, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you seen it?
It reminded me a little of Planet of the Apes and a lot of surprise diarrhea.
Yes, but I consider this to be the definitive version.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#142990 Dec 11, 2012
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, dear.

It's not a replica.

It's not "launched": it's sitting at a damn dock.

It's a total fake.
And it's reinforced with steel.

And they want to take it somewhere, but they will need to take it on an even bigger boat.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#142991 Dec 11, 2012
Sambrotherofnephi wrote:
<quoted text>Not at the moment...just a question. Why do atheists advertise or promote their belief system?
What belief system?

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#142992 Dec 11, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
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Thank you for responding to me doctor.[tips hat] Scientists make mistakes with science. We can't be sure our science is more accurate than the bible.
Next time I'll tell you about the Emperor who had no clothes. It shows atheist don't understand.
Bless you.
Eerily accurate.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#142993 Dec 11, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>
I don’t think I would ever invest in such a reproduction. It’s very costly and expensive to keep up. But several have been built around the globe. I just can’t believe someone in the Netherlands would fund this operation.
Twit.

The builder wanted to sail it (okay, have it towed) to London for the Olympics.
He couldn't get a Certificate of Seaworthiness from any country on the planet, even Liberia.

He couldn't get insurance from any company in the world, even Lloyd's of London, and they normally insure anything - at premiums they decide are appropriate.

The City of London didn't want it. Apart from the distinct danger that it might well sink and bollock up navigation, it coulda damaged the Thames Barrier.

It was regarded as a fire hazard, even if it'd been moored in London.

"Reproduction"? It was built on a frame of 37 steel barges welded together. I'm fairly sure that wasn't an option in Noah's day.

It was, not to put too fine a point on it, a total and utter clusterfuck.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#142994 Dec 11, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Woah.

One time I held in a fart in an elevator....
That's nothing unless there's only one other person.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#142995 Dec 11, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
What belief system?
The belief system that's based on the belief that there is no God.

That one.

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Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#142996 Dec 11, 2012
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, of course you're right, think how much better off we would be without science.
1.) No clean water, or fresh food.
2.) No sewerage treatment plants.
3.) No refrigeration, or plumbing.
4.) No communication, automobiles or airplanes.
5.) No electricity, aid conditioning, or heating.
6.) No medical advancements, or vaccines.
7.) ABSOLUTELY NO UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THE WORLD AROUND YOU WORKS.
Yes without science we would be much better off. Life expectancy would be around 30 years old, plagues would continue to wipe out millions with regularity. The numbers of still born babies equivalent to those during the dark ages. A mere infect could kill you or your loved ones. sanitary conditions would be something you can't even imagine, or course accompanied by a variety of nasty diseases. And in the end, without science you would still be huddled in the back of your cave banging two bones together asking the thunder God to bring more game.
You go right ahead and deny science, I'll take my chances with a building falling on my head, or getting electrocuted. I figure it's a worthy risk considering the myriad of things science does to make MY LIFE BETTER. Sorry it's not working for you.
Oh, By the way, without the fact of evolution, there would be zero medical advancements in the treatment of a whole bunch of diseases. Now, good sir, back to your cave and get busy with those bones!!!!!!
...and we'd all still be drinking beer for breakfast,'cos the water's not safe.

Oh, wait...

Laffin.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#142997 Dec 11, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
That's nothing unless there's only one other person.
There was like 5 people in there....

So I do my part.

I hold my fart.

Sometimes.

While at dinner party, Redneck farts.
A non-redneck says “How dare you fart in front of my wife”.
Redneck says “Sorry, I didn’t realize it was her turn”.
Loren Eberly

Bellefontaine, OH

#142998 Dec 11, 2012
Us the Government:

USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

The majority of Us the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; elects President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

That complies with Realities demands every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And enables President and Congress to avoid fiscal cliff and balance every budget.

Us the Government reelecting Obnoxious President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

That holds Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax bated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. That gets only product or service. With money derived from wages, investment and independent business profit.

This is bankrupting USA. Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot afford life and pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#142999 Dec 11, 2012
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Twit.
The builder wanted to sail it (okay, have it towed) to London for the Olympics.
He couldn't get a Certificate of Seaworthiness from any country on the planet, even Liberia.
He couldn't get insurance from any company in the world, even Lloyd's of London, and they normally insure anything - at premiums they decide are appropriate.
The City of London didn't want it. Apart from the distinct danger that it might well sink and bollock up navigation, it coulda damaged the Thames Barrier.
It was regarded as a fire hazard, even if it'd been moored in London.
"Reproduction"? It was built on a frame of 37 steel barges welded together. I'm fairly sure that wasn't an option in Noah's day.
It was, not to put too fine a point on it, a total and utter clusterfuck.
bollock?

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