Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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#143003 Dec 11, 2012
Sambrotherofnephi wrote:
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Not at the moment...just a question. Why do atheists advertise or promote their belief system?
We don't have a belief system. That ad you posted was just a reminder that we can enjoy our lives without religion or a belief in god. Very,*very* subversive statement, I know. We should stop being so uppity.

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#143004 Dec 11, 2012
Sambrotherofnephi wrote:
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Not at the moment...just a question. Why do atheists advertise or promote their belief system?
What belief system?

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#143005 Dec 11, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
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What belief system?
Good question.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#143006 Dec 11, 2012
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, dear.
It's not a replica.
It's not "launched": it's sitting at a damn dock.
It's a total fake.
According to duckie12, Noah's didn't launch either! The flood was only 20 feet high! LOL! Kill every living thing, but only 20 ft high!

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#143007 Dec 11, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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The belief system that's based on the belief that there is no God.
That one.
Can you produce anything from this "belief system"?

If it's only one belief, it's not a system.

So, what else is part of the system?

Did you just make it up?

What is that belief system called, and do you know of anyone that follows it?

Besides that, we've told you before, again and again, basic atheism is the lack of belief in gods.

No valid definition of atheism invokes the name of any specific deity.

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#143008 Dec 11, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
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What belief system?
The belief system of not believing in a belief system, maybe?

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#143009 Dec 11, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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The belief system that's based on the belief that there is no God.
That one.
yh, i think that's what i was gettin' at.

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#143010 Dec 11, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Do you do this on purpose?
I've told him, others have told him, I'm going to start viciously insulting him from now on.

The dude is so brainwashed that he can appear to have learned something one day, and have forgotten it by the next day.

Since: Oct 12

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#143011 Dec 11, 2012
Sambrotherofnephi wrote:
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Not at the moment...just a question. Why do atheists advertise or promote their belief system?
So that they can make the world a better place!

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#143012 Dec 11, 2012
Clementia wrote:
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The belief system of not believing in a belief system, maybe?
If standing still is dancing, if baldness is a hair color, if not collecting stamps is a hobby...

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#143013 Dec 11, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
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Can you produce anything from this "belief system"?
If it's only one belief, it's not a system.
So, what else is part of the system?
Did you just make it up?
What is that belief system called, and do you know of anyone that follows it?
Besides that, we've told you before, again and again, basic atheism is the lack of belief in gods.
No valid definition of atheism invokes the name of any specific deity.
But I thought atheists have a belief but just not a religious or supernatural one?

Isn't a belief something that you think is true? You think that religion is wrong, so you think your opinion is true, so is that not a belief?

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#143014 Dec 11, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
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If standing still is dancing, if baldness is a hair color, if not collecting stamps is a hobby...
Everyone has their own understanding! hehehehehe

Sikhism denied religion, but it too is called a religion now, that's how things are in this world, people assume and put name tags on you.

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Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#143015 Dec 11, 2012
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>"Minority Report" came close.
I could write a better story than that. I almost did in this post but decided to just keep that to myself.
blacklagoon

Hyde Park, MA

#143016 Dec 11, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Silly troll, elegance, sophistication & social graces are open for interpretation. YOU don't get to define them based on your little world.
Understanding, empathy & social interaction is lost on you.
There is NO interpretation of your classless comments on post #142946. Under any decent social environment they would be considered rude, classless, and grotesque. Although it's probably acceptable amongst your hillbilly friends, here in the civilized part of the country you would be looked on with revulsion and pity.
blacklagoon

Hyde Park, MA

#143017 Dec 11, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I got a good laugh at the atheist ad: "There's probably no God"
HA HA HA HA!!!!
What an argument, huh?
And Dick Dawkins is standing there admiring the ad........
He's thinking " Yup, this'll work!"
There is NO argument to be had, there probably is no God. And thats the polite rendition, I like this one better. Due to the complete and utter lack of evidence there simply is no God. Or.........The evidence for God is the same as there is for werewolves.

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#143018 Dec 11, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
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I could write a better story than that. I almost did in this post but decided to just keep that to myself.
You concentrate on my poem, sweetie. Tick tock goes the clock!!

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#143019 Dec 11, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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bollock?
A term of opprobrium.

In context, "eff-up".

Although the term actually refers to the male reproductive coupling gear.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#143020 Dec 11, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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According to duckie12, Noah's didn't launch either! The flood was only 20 feet high! LOL! Kill every living thing, but only 20 ft high!
Can you say "Noah's Pier"?

Laffin.

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#143021 Dec 11, 2012
Clementia wrote:
But I thought atheists have a belief but just not a religious or supernatural one?
They wouldn't be a part of atheism, so theists could have them as well. Atheism is simply the category of people who do not have religious beliefs. Whatever else defines those people is separate from atheism.

Theism is a category, not a belief system. A theist has a belief in at least one god. An atheist has no beliefs in any gods. Theism and atheism cannot be belief systems. They lack the necessary definition to be called a system, and atheism lacks the belief part also.
Clementia wrote:
Isn't a belief something that you think is true? You think that religion is wrong, so you think your opinion is true, so is that not a belief?
Rejecting a belief is not in itself a belief. I don't need to posit an alternative to religious claims. Atheism is the state of not adopting religious beliefs.

I think religion is harmful. That means I'm anti-theistic. I'm more free to be anti-theistic than theists are, but theists can also be anti-theistic. If you agree that religion is often harmful, you are also, to some degree, anti-theistic. These motivations or opinions do not come from having religious beliefs or not having them. They come from observation, reasoning, and empathy.

We can differentiate beliefs into categories. I haven't got any faith based beliefs at all. Faith based beliefs are very different from beliefs/opinions/conclusions derived in other manners. In a discussion about belief, where the religious and non religious are both involved, the difference must be constantly pointed out. It's really a failing in language that the word "belief" can be used to describe very different ideas.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#143022 Dec 11, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
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I could write a better story than that. I almost did in this post but decided to just keep that to myself.
My cockatiel coulda written a better one.

Just let the dratted thing decompose.

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