Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#142833 Dec 10, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
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She believed that suffering was beautiful and Christlike.
She was a good person who was brutally and tragically warped by her beliefs and religion.
Mother Teresa would have been a good girlfriend for Mel Gibson--they seem to share the same sort of sadomasochistic tendencies.

Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#142834 Dec 10, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
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I'm not sure, but I think turkey12 is trying to be funny.
Oh, Eagle IS funny.

Just not the way he thinks he is.

He's funny in a sad sort of way.

Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#142835 Dec 10, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
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There were cod-pieces?
How did I miss that?
The only movie I dislike more is The Butterfly Effect.
nano would never miss the cod-pieces.

She's one wild and crazy chick, that nano.

And despite her protestations, she is hot for IANS.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#142836 Dec 10, 2012
-Skeptic- wrote:
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How the f do you know it's life size??
god told him.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#142837 Dec 10, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
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nano would never miss the cod-pieces.
She's one wild and crazy chick, that nano.
And despite her protestations, she is hot for IANS.
Nuh uh.

She wants ME.

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#142838 Dec 10, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
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Even I don't believe that.
What about this:

The Christian belief system attracts irresponsible people and justifies the shirking of personal responsibility.

Since: Oct 11

Location hidden

#142839 Dec 10, 2012
I fail to understand how the terms "faith" and "atheism" can be used in a fashion defining a mode of "religion" when Atheism, by its' very definition, is the absolute rejection of ANY acknowledgement of ANY form of faith or religion, i.e., a complete disbelief in anything...?!
blacklagoon

Hyde Park, MA

#142840 Dec 10, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
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Thank you Doctor for taking the time to respond to my post.
You put your faith in science?
Did you know that science can get it wrong? And more often than not it has gotten it wrong. Leaving a long history of death in its wake.
Buildings that implode, bridges that fail, cars that explode on impact, botched formulas, machines that come apart in use, electrocutions……………..
Science, my good Doctor doesn’t have this squeaking clean image when you look into it’s history.
Yes, of course you're right, think how much better off we would be without science.

1.) No clean water, or fresh food.

2.) No sewerage treatment plants.

3.) No refrigeration, or plumbing.

4.) No communication, automobiles or airplanes.

5.) No electricity, aid conditioning, or heating.

6.) No medical advancements, or vaccines.

7.) ABSOLUTELY NO UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THE WORLD AROUND YOU WORKS.

Yes without science we would be much better off. Life expectancy would be around 30 years old, plagues would continue to wipe out millions with regularity. The numbers of still born babies equivalent to those during the dark ages. A mere infect could kill you or your loved ones. sanitary conditions would be something you can't even imagine, or course accompanied by a variety of nasty diseases. And in the end, without science you would still be huddled in the back of your cave banging two bones together asking the thunder God to bring more game.

You go right ahead and deny science, I'll take my chances with a building falling on my head, or getting electrocuted. I figure it's a worthy risk considering the myriad of things science does to make MY LIFE BETTER. Sorry it's not working for you.

Oh, By the way, without the fact of evolution, there would be zero medical advancements in the treatment of a whole bunch of diseases. Now, good sir, back to your cave and get busy with those bones!!!!!!
blacklagoon

Hyde Park, MA

#142842 Dec 10, 2012
entrenched wrote:
LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE Cures all
No, NO, NOOO. It doesn't cure:

1.) HIV
2.) Cancer
3.) Malaria
4.) Starvation
5.) Attacks of millions of parasitic organisms
6.) Delusions
7.) Stupidity
8.) Religious brainwashing.

Just thought you ought to know!!!!!

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#142843 Dec 10, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
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I understand, but you have had a entire life to have done something for someone. Even sending $5.00 to the Red Cross or Salvation Army is something.
Oh, you mean my whole life. Well ...

Assisted with the rehab of over 100 addicts.

Worked in soup kitchens.

Donated blood and plasma for free.

Advocated for better shelters and more homes for the homeless.

Adopted stray animals.

Volunteer teacher for the developmentally disabled.

Voluntarily teaching free classes to the homeless on computer skill ranging from common use to programming.

Assist many people interested in coding careers with their class work, for free.

Helping people locate resources to help with their needs just to help them.

Then of course there's the holding the doors and such for those who need it without grumbling about it, but that's just common courtesy.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#142844 Dec 10, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
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Even I don't believe that.
Consider the god mentioned in the book, consider the "suffer for all eternity" punishment for not believing, consider the genocides that are easily justified by the doctrine, consider the indoctrination. You'd have to be sadistic, tyrannical, or completely insane to believe that's a good doctrine to follow, much less to consider that a "loving" deity.

Most may not be that bad, but it attracts sadists, it also hides sadistic behaviors very well. When you worship something sadistic, you have to approve or like sadism.

Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#142845 Dec 10, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Oh, you mean my whole life. Well ...
Assisted with the rehab of over 100 addicts.
Worked in soup kitchens.
Donated blood and plasma for free.
Advocated for better shelters and more homes for the homeless.
Adopted stray animals.
Volunteer teacher for the developmentally disabled.
Voluntarily teaching free classes to the homeless on computer skill ranging from common use to programming.
Assist many people interested in coding careers with their class work, for free.
Helping people locate resources to help with their needs just to help them.
Then of course there's the holding the doors and such for those who need it without grumbling about it, but that's just common courtesy.
Eagle, let's see your list.

Remember, lie and you'll go to hell.

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#142846 Dec 10, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
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Also check out Battlefield Earth.
It's stellar.
Tour de Force.
Joking?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#142847 Dec 10, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>What about this:

The Christian belief system attracts irresponsible people and justifies the shirking of personal responsibility.
I can grok that.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#142848 Dec 10, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>Consider the god mentioned in the book, consider the "suffer for all eternity" punishment for not believing, consider the genocides that are easily justified by the doctrine, consider the indoctrination. You'd have to be sadistic, tyrannical, or completely insane to believe that's a good doctrine to follow, much less to consider that a "loving" deity.

Most may not be that bad, but it attracts sadists, it also hides sadistic behaviors very well. When you worship something sadistic, you have to approve or like sadism.
But you know, and I know, that that is not what motivates most people to Christianity.

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#142849 Dec 10, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Joking?
Have you seen it?

It reminded me a little of Planet of the Apes and a lot of surprise diarrhea.
Thinking

Andover, UK

#142850 Dec 10, 2012
We've got cleaners for that reason. But I still couldn't get a large percentage of the world's fauna on board.

And wtf happened to the Giant Redwoods in the great flood?
Eagle12 wrote:
Let me rewrite that before the East German Grammar police show up at my front door.
A house can look pretty damn small until you start cleaning it.
Thinking

Andover, UK

#142851 Dec 10, 2012
I also qualified that one in my response.
Aerobatty wrote:
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Even I don't believe that.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#142852 Dec 10, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
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I can grok that.
'Stranger in a Strange Land', what a book!
Thinking

Andover, UK

#142853 Dec 10, 2012
Thou art god, but who isn't?
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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'Stranger in a Strange Land', what a book!

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