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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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“I see quantum effects”

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In the macro world.

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Dec 8, 2012
 
Hedonist wrote:
<quoted text>IF you applied his recommended edits, you would end up with -

"Ya, that's what you atheists say but not one of your assertions IS INVALID."
Thank you.

I was going to let him gloat in his ignorance.
Darwin was an ape

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Think About It wrote:
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Have you observed something coming from nothing?
Evolutionist require the idea of not observing. Once an evolutionist was so desperate to get out of the evolution lie that she claimed that she a reincarnated 2 million year old fish named Wanda.
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Givemeliberty wrote:
Dumb@ss you still to this day argue that Catholics do not believe in Jesus. I mean holy fck if you are unable to grasp that Catholics are Christians you ar certainly unable to understand most of what is posted here.
So again what church do you belong to? Some holy roller idiots yes?
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So, please explain how it came about that Catholics all became Christians. I mean, some Jews, Muslims and Hindus became Christians. Not all Baptists, Presbyterians, Methodists and Protestants are Christians, but you believe that all Catholics are Christians.

Where is this truth, since most South American Catholics adamantly protest that they are not Christians. They do not pray to him, they pray to Mary, Thomas, and many dead saints. Each one has a specific purpose. Golly Liberty, those folks even have their own Bible, altar and incense.
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You seem good with math.
What does "5 is an abstract concept in a formal system" mean, in Redneck terms?
It means that he is not good at math. For him.like science, with math, he still has never proven one concept.

Most of them live in a world of assigned value. So, the number 5 is assigned a value and they do not seek the actual valuation, formula and proof to arrive at the number idependent of the assigned value.

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Dec 8, 2012
 
Think About It wrote:
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So even though you can't prove the number 5 by scientific methods, the number 5 does exist.
It exists within a formal system of axioms and not in any 'real' sense.

“The Beat 64 rocks out in”

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Think About It wrote:
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You can't get something from nothing.
Now what scientific method would you use to prove the number 5?
More proof that there really is such a thing as a stupid question...

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Dec 8, 2012
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You seem good with math.
What does "5 is an abstract concept in a formal system" mean, in Redneck terms?
Separates wut you will & won't do fer a nickel...
christianity is EVIL

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Dec 8, 2012
 
Darwin was an ape wrote:
<quoted text>Evolutionist require the idea of not observing. Once an evolutionist was so desperate to get out of the evolution lie that she claimed that she a reincarnated 2 million year old fish named Wanda.
can you prove she wasnt?

go for it!

“God Bless America ”

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NightSerf wrote:
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Separates wut you will & won't do fer a nickel...
A car wash?

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Dec 8, 2012
 
Aerobatty wrote:
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I'm not surprised you didn't get it.
I never am.
You sound like a broken record.

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Dec 8, 2012
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Atheism sure didn't teach that man how to dress....
Well, he was a preacher for a lot of years.

Nothing else to say?

Did you watch it all?

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Dec 8, 2012
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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The same applies for emotions.
"Emotions" and "numbers" are both concepts.

Emotion is a state of the brain. Numbers are abstracts that relate to that which is countable. Emotions can be related with numbers too. A brain scan produces numbers which relate to brain states.

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Think About It wrote:
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Have you observed something coming from nothing?
Have you?

I'm waiting to observe your point, if such a point exists.

“Jesus is Love”

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Dec 8, 2012
 
dr fill wrote:
<quoted text> I see another one who cant handle the truth.There are many like you that ignore the facts and follow others blindly to be in with the crowd.You probably started smoking when you were a kid so you would fit in with the crowd.I know your kind pal.
Thanks for sharing your delirium with us. I don't smoke.

“Jesus is Love”

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Dec 8, 2012
 
Anon wrote:
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Just keep counting the church closings. The younger generations aren't picking up the torch. You're screwed.
How do you equate that with me being screwed? All you've done is proved that the scriptures are accurate. The increase in the misery index is on the rise......that is due to the adoption of atheism as a religion. You are the one that is actually screwed , and you've done it to yourself.

You need to wake up and realize how wrong you are.

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Tide with Beach wrote:
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Well, he was a preacher for a lot of years.
Nothing else to say?
Did you watch it all?
I couldn't handle his rantings. I made it to about the 3rd minute...

“ecrasez l'infame”

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Darwin was an ape wrote:
<quoted text>So, please explain how it came about that Catholics all became Christians. I mean, some Jews, Muslims and Hindus became Christians. Not all Baptists, Presbyterians, Methodists and Protestants are Christians, but you believe that all Catholics are Christians.
Where is this truth, since most South American Catholics adamantly protest that they are not Christians. They do not pray to him, they pray to Mary, Thomas, and many dead saints. Each one has a specific purpose. Golly Liberty, those folks even have their own Bible, altar and incense.
A christian is someone who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ.

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Dec 8, 2012
 
Tide with Beach wrote:
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"Emotions" and "numbers" are both concepts.
Emotion is a state of the brain. Numbers are abstracts that relate to that which is countable. Emotions can be related with numbers too. A brain scan produces numbers which relate to brain states.
The point is, both are concepts, as you say, are are not provable by science.

Yet both exist.

“ecrasez l'infame”

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Dec 8, 2012
 
Tide with Beach wrote:
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Have you?
I'm waiting to observe your point, if such a point exists.
Hey now....

Does the sign in you avatar point to the same place as the sign in my avatar?

Now that might be a point worth observing.

“In the beginning God Created..”

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Faith in Science.

Alan Sokal, a physics professor at New York University. In 1996, Sokal submitted an article to Social Text, an academic journal of postmodern cultural studies.

The article "Transgressing the Boundaries: Towards a Transformative Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity", published in the Social Text Spring/Summer 1996 "Science Wars" issue, proposed that quantum gravity is a social and linguistic construct.

Sokal wrote "Transgressing the Boundaries: Towards a Transformative Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity", an article proposing that quantum gravity has progressive political implications, and that the "morphogenetic field" (characterized by Sokal as "a bizarre New Age concept due to Rupert Sheldrake"[2]) could be a cutting-edge theory of quantum gravity.

He concluded that, since "physical reality" is, at bottom, a social and linguistic construct, a "liberatory science" and an "emancipatory mathematics", spurning "the elite caste canon of 'high science'", must be established for a "postmodern science [that] provide[s] powerful intellectual support for the progressive political project".

The above material came from Wiki:

Like many other scientists, I was amused by news of the prank played by the NYU mathematical physicist Alan Sokal. Late in 1994 he submitted a sham article to the cultural studies journal Social Text, in which he reviewed some current topics in physics and mathematics, and with tongue in cheek drew various cultural, philosophical and political morals that he felt would appeal to fashionable academic commentators on science who question the claims of science to objectivity.

The editors of Social Text did not detect that Sokal's article was a hoax, and they published it in the journal's Spring/Summer 1996 issue.1 The hoax was revealed by Sokal in an article for another journal, Lingua Franca;2 he explained that his Social Text article had been "liberally salted with nonsense," and in his opinion was accepted only because "(a) it sounded good and (b) it flattered the editors' ideological preconceptions."

Newspapers and newsmagazines throughout the U.S. and Britain carried the story. Sokal's hoax may join the small company of legendary academic hoaxes, along with the pseudo-fossils of Piltdown man planted by Charles Dawson and the pseudo-Celtic epic Ossian written by James Macpherson.

The difference is that Sokal's hoax served a public purpose, to attract attention to what Sokal saw as a decline of standards of rigor in the academic community, and for that reason it was unmasked immediately by the author himself.

http://www.physics.nyu.edu/sokal/weinberg.htm...

Eagle 12

How many other hoaxes have been printed in Scientific Journals and publications that have gone unclaimed? Alan Sokal proved that the Scientific community can be hoaxed. And that’s not saying much for the general population.

How about this one? The Emperors New Clothes, by Hans Christian Anderson.

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