Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

[Aerobatty]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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Ya well, it didn't.
Be careful, your atheist shows every time you think.....

Lol!

You're too much, RR. You really are the hypocrite's hypocrite.

Catholics are christian.

Deal with it.

[Aerobatty]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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Some atheists are agnostics.
Al atheists are wrong.

Your stupid is showing.

[_BobLoblah_]

KittenKoder wrote:

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How can one deny "nothing?" We believe in no gods, the word atheism is a definition for a nothing, an absence. If you can make up stuff about "nothing" more power to you, it's still made up because nothing means just that, nothing. We don't believe in any god, we're just one up on you is all.

08Dec12.....

.....There is NO such thingy as an atheist...

.....Agnostic - YES

.....hAtheist - YES

.....atheist - NO

.....wannabee hAtheist - YES

Ps:.....WHO made da dirt!!!!!....ya schidt-for-brains???

Forever and Ever
BobLoblah

[_BobLoblah_]

08Dec12.....

..NOTE:

For the benefit of posters who are posting new messages and in order for their message to be pertinent to a message 'received'.......

....it's advantageous that instead of beginning a response by saying (for example)'you'....etcetera,.... that instead type 'you' kittenkoder...etcetera.

In that way, posters reading up on your messages will know to whom you are directing your messaage and / or comment.

Ps:....Of course, lots and lottsa schidt-for-brains vill have no idea vot is being said here and will continue on 'without a clue' jest wasting their dimes.

'...always remember dat wherever you go...there you are'(bobloblah)

Forever and Ever
BobLoblah

[Aerobatty]

Catcher1 wrote:

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Eagle, I congratulate you.
You did it.
You really did, and I'm proud of you.
You put together a complete sentence.
Good job, dude.
Good job.

Now let's see if he can do it with more than 7 words.

[Catcher1]

Aerobatty wrote:

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Now let's see if he can do it with more than 7 words.

Let's go one step at a time.

[RiversideRedneck]

KittenKoder wrote:

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... oh so you abridged it, still making up a lot of stuff about nothing. I give you credit, it takes skill to make up stuff about a literal nothing.

Yes, atheism is a literal nothing.

[Thinking]

So why does Secularism worry religious leaders so?

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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Yes, atheism is a literal nothing.

[Adam]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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Yes, atheism is a literal nothing.

Thats a misconception. Atheists have beliefs about lots of things, just like everyone else. The difference is that those beliefs are based on reality, and not on supernatural things.

[blacklagoon]

Eagle12 wrote:

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Atheism = Evolution = Speculative Science

Theism = myths, fantasies, and magic = well.........Myths, fantasies, and magic.

For all those who think prayers are answered, and I laughed my ass off at this one. Some poor guys went to a giant concrete crucifix everyday to pray for his sick wife. He did this for a year, she died anyway. He then asked the church if he could clean the statue as it was covered with bird shit and grim. Of course they gave him permission. The next day he showed up with bucket and brushes in hand. As he started his cleaning, the statue, apparently not well secured , toppled over and crushed him to death. Yeah I know, God wanted him to be with his wife, the one he refused to save from a year of agony.

This just goes to show the mindset Theists have regarding answered prayers. If something good happens then the prayers have been answered. If the prayers aren't answered and something horrible happens, they ALWAYS find a way to justify the evil and being part of God's plan. This is exactly how the parish priest explained it. "God wanted his wife in heaven, and then knew how miserable the husband was without his wife so God took him to be with her." How about LEAVING BOTH OF THEM THE F--K ALONE AND LET THEM BE HAPPY. There appears to be no end the religious bullshit that gets heaped higher and higher. Pitiful!!!!!

[polymath257]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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Here's your atheist doctrine.
1. There is something called "Faith" which can be defined as unjustified belief held in the teeth of the evidence. Faith is primarily a matter of false propositional belief.
2. The cure for faith is science: The existence of God is a scientific question: either he exists or he doesn't. "Science is the only way of knowing – everything else is just superstition" [Robert L. Park]
3. Science is the opposite of religion, and will lead people into the clear sunlit uplands of reason. "The real war is between rationalism and superstition. Science is but one form of rationalism, while religion is the most common form of superstition" [Jerry Coyne] "I am not attacking any particular version of God or gods. I am attacking God, all gods, anything and everything supernatural, wherever and whenever they have been or will be invented." [Dawkins]
4. Religion exists. It is essentially something like American fundamentalist protestantism, or Islam. More moderate forms are false and treacherous: if anything even more dangerous, because they conceal the raging, homicidal lunacy that is religion's true nature.[Sam Harris]
5. Faith, as defined above, is the most dangerous and wicked force on earth today and the struggle against it and especially against Islam will define the future of humanity.[atheists]
Moronic, I know. But that's atheists for ya!

Exactly which part of this is moronic? I'll grant that the moderate religionists can be fine as long as they don't push their beliefs on others. The fundies are the worst in my book (and yes, I know Harris disagrees with me).

Other than that, which parts are false?

[KittenKoder]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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Yes, atheism is a literal nothing.

Well, a literal nothing cannot have a "doctrine," it cannot be a club, it cannot be a religion, it can only describe something that is not there. Thank you for admitting that, finally.

[KittenKoder]

_BobLoblah_ wrote:

<quoted text>08Dec12.....
.....There is NO such thingy as an atheist...
.....Agnostic - YES
.....hAtheist - YES
.....atheist - NO
.....wannabee hAtheist - YES
Ps:.....WHO made da dirt!!!!!....ya schidt-for-brains???
Forever and Ever
BobLoblah

Sol's father did.

[Clementia]

_BobLoblah_ wrote:

<quoted text>08Dec12.....
.....vot's da Engine size???
Forever and Ever
BobLoblah

I don't know, I'm not even sure if his bike is a bullet or a Yahmaha, I know it's one of those two though. He's got the top one tho, coz he always shows it off and says my bikes the best. It's a really nice bike. I know nice when I see it!!

I don't really understand the engine size stuff, I only sit on it. I only know about my cars engine size coz i have to buy the road tax for it.

[RiversideRedneck]

Thinking wrote:

So why does Secularism worry religious leaders so?
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They love you and they want you in Heaven with them.

[RiversideRedneck]

Adam wrote:

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Thats a misconception. Atheists have beliefs about lots of things, just like everyone else. The difference is that those beliefs are based on reality, and not on supernatural things.

Tell that to Koder

[RiversideRedneck]

polymath257 wrote:

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Exactly which part of this is moronic? I'll grant that the moderate religionists can be fine as long as they don't push their beliefs on others. The fundies are the worst in my book (and yes, I know Harris disagrees with me).
Other than that, which parts are false?

"The cure for faith is science."

"Science is the opposite of religion"

Both false.

[Aerobatty]

RiversideRedneck wrote:

<quoted text>"The cure for faith is science."

"Science is the opposite of religion"

Both false.

The cure for the Christian religions is the bible.

Science disproves holy texts.

[Eagle12]

blacklagoon wrote:

<quoted text>Theism = myths, fantasies, and magic = well.........Myths, fantasies, and magic.
For all those who think prayers are answered, and I laughed my ass off at this one. Some poor guys went to a giant concrete crucifix everyday to pray for his sick wife. He did this for a year, she died anyway. He then asked the church if he could clean the statue as it was covered with bird shit and grim. Of course they gave him permission. The next day he showed up with bucket and brushes in hand. As he started his cleaning, the statue, apparently not well secured , toppled over and crushed him to death. Yeah I know, God wanted him to be with his wife, the one he refused to save from a year of agony.
This just goes to show the mindset Theists have regarding answered prayers. If something good happens then the prayers have been answered. If the prayers aren't answered and something horrible happens, they ALWAYS find a way to justify the evil and being part of God's plan. This is exactly how the parish priest explained it. "God wanted his wife in heaven, and then knew how miserable the husband was without his wife so God took him to be with her." How about LEAVING BOTH OF THEM THE F--K ALONE AND LET THEM BE HAPPY. There appears to be no end the religious bullshit that gets heaped higher and higher. Pitiful!!!!!

Thank you Doctor for taking the time to respond to my post.

You put your faith in science?

Did you know that science can get it wrong? And more often than not it has gotten it wrong. Leaving a long history of death in its wake.

Buildings that implode, bridges that fail, cars that explode on impact, botched formulas, machines that come apart in use, electrocutions……………..

Science, my good Doctor doesn’t have this squeaking clean image when you look into it’s history.

[Thinking]

There was a massive war in heaven, I can do better.

RiversideRedneck wrote:

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They love you and they want you in Heaven with them.