Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#141420 Nov 28, 2012
timn17 wrote:
I'm just kidding. What's intelligence anyway? It's just thingies being thingied by a thingy in an EM thingy.
Somethingy like that...

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#141421 Nov 28, 2012
http://www.vice.com/video

Realism.

This is one reason when I hear bleeding hearts I question the motives.

Oh, my sympathies are with the refugees.

I've heard the holier than thous, like the Jews, and the Cubans, and the liberals in the US since childhood, demanding we accept each other. Then watched what happened when they gained control.

I remember one woman I worked with in particular. She was a Cuban Jew. Poor refugee backgrounds. Politically based, though. Most got on airplanes to get here.

I sympathized with Haitians. You wouldn't believe some of the things they tried to float here with across dangerous waters. A lot further away than Cuba. Real desperation. Most were pretty gentle and hard working people. They certainly weren't that much of a burden on Miami, it being awash with political refugees from all over Latin America, many illegal, BTW. There was plenty of work for everyone then.

But you should of heard this woman, and most Cubans, rant and rail worse than what you heard on that video about Haitians. I thought that most odd coming from a Jewish woman liberal on everything else. We had some lively discussions on the subject.

I also remember the poor Cuban refugees. Flying in to Miami airport. Getting refugee assistance, which was more than a good portion of the lower economic class in Miami got. Then they got jobs as professionals, store clerks, and personnel officers. In a short time, it became a requirement for anyone hired in those companies, especially retail, to speak Spanish. No Anglos need apply. It was that bad. Anglos moved out.

Then the Nicaraguans came. I had friends who went to a demonstration downtown protesting Reagan's Contra support. They wound up being put in paddy wagons and escorted to safety because the Cuban radio hosts fired up a bunch of anti-Comunistas to go down there. They chaes one American guy with a rope to hang him. Many of those protesters were older Americans of liberal persuasion. They were told they shouldn't be down there protesting. By the police and government officials.

BTW, Mexicans had a very low profile in Miami. They were not favored people among the other Latinos.

Like I said, you can hear all sorts of nice words about the family of man and rights and all of that, and you can see those words evaporate after those who spouted them gain power.

Topix atheists screech a lot about rights and humanity, and getting rid of religion.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Sacramento, CA

#141422 Nov 28, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>
When you go to a restaurant my good man.
That is not a sentence, dude.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#141423 Nov 28, 2012
_BobLoblah_ wrote:
<quoted text>29Nov12.....
.....'here's lookin' at you, kid'.
Forever and Ever
BobLoblah
Who's looking at me? I don't get it.

Look, I don't get stuff because I'm not as old as you, grandad!:-)

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#141424 Nov 28, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Also, I just wanted to clarify, you are not smarter than me.
:)
I'm just kidding. What's intelligence anyway? It's just thingies being thingied by a thingy in an EM thingy.
Do you know how vacuum tubes work?

You have to heat things up to make information flow. An older EM thingy.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#141425 Nov 28, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
That is not a sentence, dude.
Hehehehehe....Does Eagle do that on purpose?
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#141426 Nov 28, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Facts to a Topix atheist is something "they" told you is true. Not "facts" they develop from living themselves. Why "education" is so important to them. Otherwise they wouldn't know nothing. They'd be iggorant.
Of course, the more esoteric the "facts" they are told are "facts" by "them", and them learning those "facts", just really boosts their egos because their "education" is now elevated.
Of course, this causes many, many billions of existing humans, and all of those existing before these "facts" were revealed by "them", to be stupid, which would just have to elevate their egos to even higher levels. The absolute cream of the crop of humanity. The pinnacle of education and intelligence. It took billions of years to get there, but they arrived.
Here to save humanity.
Atheists are dumb.
I'm amazed that someone who tries SO very hard to appear intelligent, doesn't know what constitutes a fact. Fact," something that is indisputably the case."

See, you're not so smart after all.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Sacramento, CA

#141427 Nov 28, 2012
Clementia wrote:
<quoted text>
Hehehehehe....Does Eagle do that on purpose?
Of course he doesn't do it on purpose.

It's a pattern with eagle--he breaks up what would be a sentence into incomplete phrases.

It reflects his lack of an education.

When it's pointed out to him, Eagle responds with thinly veiled bigotry he thinks is humorous.

Stay tuned--it won't be long before it happens.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#141428 Nov 28, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know what my not being in the middle of the ocean in a boat has to do with it. Particularly when the ark would have been launched from a very dry dock a good ways from the shore of the ocean.
You said those currents run for miles and miles. I would assume the middle of the ocean is a lot smoother than near coasts then. You basically go up and down unless there is a fierce wind.
I have been in fierce winds that suddenly came up on a remote high mountain lake at dark in a 12 foot Sears Gamefisher with 6 guys aboard, 3 I picked up because their boat got swamped. In the dark, an overloaded boat, waves and whitecaps much higher than you could see, and not a lot of space between them, miles from shore, which was marked by a single gas lantern I could get a glimpse of on occasion. Fortunately I understood how water works and got us all home. I've been out in a bay in 50 MPH winds and 40 degree weather in a 10 foot johnboat with a sick 5 HP motor with no life preserver or the ability to swim with intentions of fishing from the middle of a long bridge, only to realize it may not be such a good idea after almost reaching it, and surfing a couple of miles back because the water moved faster than that outboard could move the boat. I learned discretion that day. I have also been out off the coast in a Navy cabin cruiser that almost got swamped by the wake from a supertanker and a skipper that had been smoking dope and he really didn't approach it properly. Amazing how high those wakes can get.
Plus sailing was the only course I passed in my one semester of junior college. Our graduation exercise was a race around an island in 40+ winds in which the boat, 19 foot day sailers with a keel, I skippered almost lapped the boat that was second to us, this after a sloppy helm transfer of the two others on the boat resulted in us getting swamped for a few moments.
I have an understanding of how waves and currents work and how to stay in a groove.
Have you ever considered writing a book of fictitious stories, with you as the hero in each story? In it you could include all your pseudo-science bullshit to create unbelievable situations from which you always manage to escape. Kind of like McGiver. I wold buy your book just to read about your harrowing sea escapades. Let me know the release date, thanks!!

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#141429 Nov 28, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course he doesn't do it on purpose.
It's a pattern with eagle--he breaks up what would be a sentence into incomplete phrases.
It reflects his lack of an education.
When it's pointed out to him, Eagle responds with thinly veiled bigotry he thinks is humorous.
Stay tuned--it won't be long before it happens.
Yh, I've noticed that but I thought maybe he can't be bothered to think too much when he's writing, like me.

Lol, I want to put my finger on the mistake before you, give me a chance, let me say the mistake first, pretty please? Give me a clue if I'm too thick to see it.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#141431 Nov 28, 2012
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>I'm amazed that someone who tries SO very hard to appear intelligent, doesn't know what constitutes a fact. Fact," something that is indisputably the case."
See, you're not so smart after all.
I wish I had as simple a mind as you do.

What constitutes a "fact" is a lot more complicated than what you portray. You are unlikely to understand that.

That's a fact.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#141432 Nov 28, 2012
Clementia wrote:
<quoted text>
Yh, I've noticed that but I thought maybe he can't be bothered to think too much when he's writing, like me.
Lol, I want to put my finger on the mistake before you, give me a chance, let me say the mistake first, pretty please? Give me a clue if I'm too thick to see it.
It's a deal, Clementine.

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#141433 Nov 28, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>
You’re confusing Halloween with Christmas.
The first mention of December 25 as the birth date of Jesus occurred in A.D. 336 in an early Roman calendar. The celebration of this day as Jesus' birth date was probably influenced by pagan festivals held at that time. The ancient Romans held year-end celebrations to honor Saturn, their harvest god; and Mithras, the god of light... As part of all these celebrations, the people prepared special foods, decorated their homes with greenery, and joined in singing and gift giving. These customs gradually became part of the Christmas celebration.

The Puritans of Massachusetts Bay frowned on Christmas revelry, considering the holiday a Roman Catholic ritual. A law in the colony barred anyone from taking the day off work, feasting or engaging in other celebrations on Christmas, under penalty of a five-shilling fine. The law was repealed in 1681, but Christmas celebrations remained unpopular in New England and other colonies for many years.

Even after the Revolution many Americans still viewed Christmas as a Tory custom and a reminder of the expelled British. Although Christmas became popular in the South as early as the 1830s, other regions were apathetic.

Congress did not begin adjourning on Christmas Day until 1856. Public schools in New England were often open on Dec. 25, as were many factories and offices. Many Protestant churches refused to hold services, considering the holiday “Pope-ish.”

Not until after the Civil War did Christmas begin to seriously affect American cultural and religious life. European immigration increased sharply after the war, and many of the newcomers came from countries with strong Christmas traditions. Germans, Italians, Poles, Swedes, Norwegians and others brought the holiday and many of its features, including Christmas trees and Santa Claus, to America in a big way.

The celebration spread, and in 1870 Christmas was declared a federal holiday by Congress. But practices in the states continued to vary. As late as 1931 nine states still called for public schools to remain open on Christmas Day.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#141434 Nov 28, 2012
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Have you ever considered writing a book of fictitious stories, with you as the hero in each story? In it you could include all your pseudo-science bullshit to create unbelievable situations from which you always manage to escape. Kind of like McGiver. I wold buy your book just to read about your harrowing sea escapades. Let me know the release date, thanks!!
Oh, come on now. I can't be any worse than your pretensions to be more worldly, educated, and "in the know" than us masses. I am surprised you have the time to spend on here enlightening the enlightenable, and sneering at those that aren't. Surely you have an elite social circle to jerk around with instead of on here?
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#141435 Nov 28, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Facts to a Topix atheist is something "they" told you is true. Not "facts" they develop from living themselves. Why "education" is so important to them. Otherwise they wouldn't know nothing. They'd be iggorant.
Of course, the more esoteric the "facts" they are told are "facts" by "them", and them learning those "facts", just really boosts their egos because their "education" is now elevated.
Of course, this causes many, many billions of existing humans, and all of those existing before these "facts" were revealed by "them", to be stupid, which would just have to elevate their egos to even higher levels. The absolute cream of the crop of humanity. The pinnacle of education and intelligence. It took billions of years to get there, but they arrived.
Here to save humanity.
Atheists are dumb.
Yes, Atheists are dumb, because they refuse to believe in mythical beings and magical places. Does that mean that anyone who doesn't believe in the Greek Mythology's is also dumb?

The you must contend that Theists are the opposite from dumb. People who believe an imaginary being created all there is in a few days. That it created the first human by scooping up a handful of dirt and blew on it. It then wrenched out one of this mans ribs and magically a women popped into existence. Yep, Theists are so much more intelligent !!!!!
Eternal Bliss

Manchester, UK

#141436 Nov 28, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
It's a deal, Clementine.
Don't mess with gangster Clementine, she knows people who know people.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#141437 Nov 28, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>
One of the writers of the New Testament was a Medical Doctor. Did you know that Doctor?
{I don't "trust" people who base their beliefs on unsupported, or in the case of religion, non-existent evidence}.
My good Doctor, I think what you mean in the previous statement. Is that you don’t want to trust people who base their beliefs in God. If you have a heart attack Doctor and I hope you don’t by the way. You may find yourself in the care of people that do believe in God.
When you go to a restaurant my good man. The food you ate may have been prepared by people of faith. Your entire life Doctor you have been around people of faith. They have fed you, clothed you, fixed and manufactured your automobiles, flown and serviced your airplanes. Given your medicine and healthcare.
We know you don’t want to trust people of faith but you have too.
No, one of the writers of the NT was not a medical doctor, authorship of the NT is completely unknown, there are NO autographed copies, the originals do not exist, we have ONLY stories told over the last 2000 years about who actually wrote the NT.

I never said I didn't trust a person of faith to do their job, don't put words into my mouth. I don't trust people who claim to know things without supportive evidence, big difference.
_BobLoblah_

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#141438 Nov 28, 2012
Clementia wrote:
<quoted text>
Who's looking at me? I don't get it.
Look, I don't get stuff because I'm not as old as you, grandad!:-)
29Nov12.....

.....A quote from Casablanca: Bogart to Bergman 'here's lookin' at you, kid'.

Ps:.....'ol Humphrey Never did say 'play it again, Sam'.

Forever and Ever
BobLoblah
_BobLoblah_

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#141439 Nov 28, 2012
Hedonist wrote:
<quoted text>
The first mention of December 25 as the birth date of Jesus occurred in A.D. 336 in an early Roman calendar. The celebration of this day as Jesus' birth date was probably influenced by pagan festivals held at that time. The ancient Romans held year-end celebrations to honor Saturn, their harvest god; and Mithras, the god of light... As part of all these celebrations, the people prepared special foods, decorated their homes with greenery, and joined in singing and gift giving. These customs gradually became part of the Christmas celebration.
The Puritans of Massachusetts Bay frowned on Christmas revelry, considering the holiday a Roman Catholic ritual. A law in the colony barred anyone from taking the day off work, feasting or engaging in other celebrations on Christmas, under penalty of a five-shilling fine. The law was repealed in 1681, but Christmas celebrations remained unpopular in New England and other colonies for many years.
Even after the Revolution many Americans still viewed Christmas as a Tory custom and a reminder of the expelled British. Although Christmas became popular in the South as early as the 1830s, other regions were apathetic.
Congress did not begin adjourning on Christmas Day until 1856. Public schools in New England were often open on Dec. 25, as were many factories and offices. Many Protestant churches refused to hold services, considering the holiday “Pope-ish.”
Not until after the Civil War did Christmas begin to seriously affect American cultural and religious life. European immigration increased sharply after the war, and many of the newcomers came from countries with strong Christmas traditions. Germans, Italians, Poles, Swedes, Norwegians and others brought the holiday and many of its features, including Christmas trees and Santa Claus, to America in a big way.
The celebration spread, and in 1870 Christmas was declared a federal holiday by Congress. But practices in the states continued to vary. As late as 1931 nine states still called for public schools to remain open on Christmas Day.
29Nov12.....

.....While BobLoblah already knows dis, why don'tCha explain for ALL da folks the meaning of January 6th....

Ps:.....and den sum tooooooooooo.

Forever and Ever
BobLoblah
_BobLoblah_

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#141440 Nov 28, 2012
Eternal Bliss wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't mess with gangster Clementine, she knows people who know people.
29Nov12.....

.....and da boss of bosses - BobLoblah....

Ps:....who knows how ta make ya an offer dat you can't refuse.

Forever and Ever
BobLoblah

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