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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#141335 Nov 28, 2012
Double Fine wrote:
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On the subject of giant humans, Hiding is the best person to ask. However, if I may paraphrase what she told me in email once:
When a civilisation lives in near-optimal environment; readily available food sources, practically zero disease, etc, humans tend to increase in size, after about the 5th generation or so.
These humans are immense - 6 ft 6 and upwards.
For that reason, you will occasionally find skeletons of 'giant humans'- some may be as tall as 7 foot.
*Any error in here is mine and not HFY's*
Now, that is the biggest humans one would find. 10, 12 and 16ft humans have not been found by any accrdited source.
And the double rows of teeth is just a wee bit sketchy.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#141336 Nov 28, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
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It seems to bother you a lot that there may be people smarter than you that don't think the way you do. Or that they just could be smarter and/or more experienced. Maybe it frustrates you or something.
Sit there and count 7 billion seconds on a clock. In 220 years you may realize that many of them were.
Let's see. MENSA uses an arbitrary top 2% of IQ tests for admission. The popularly called "genius" ranking. I had one IQ test that put me at that 2%. Had another one later even higher. Both taken under less than ideal conditions. You are looking at an old Dave whose IQ may have dropped from the physical mental processes aging, but still higher than most, and with a lifetime of looking at a wide variety of the life experience already processed. Lots of stuff to go back and compare new stuff to for accuracy.
At this moment, the top 2% of intelligences would be about 140 million people. Some of them water buffalo herders in Bangaladesh. Some even "smarter" than me.
Get yourself some perspective.
You've mistaken the second percentile for the top 2%.

“There's a feeling I get...”

Since: Jun 11

...when I look to the West

#141337 Nov 28, 2012
_BobLoblah_ wrote:
<quoted text>29Nov12.....
.....Yeah.
Ps:....Dey sure beatOut dese udder IronMan, SuperMan, BatMan, SpiderMan bullschidt films.....
......and anyDing to do vit fictitious vampires, wolverine-bloodsucking, haunted houses, and udder bullschidt are a waste of time to the higher IQs of the world, but 'obviously' do have followings from the schidt-for-brains....of whom there are lots and lots nowAdays coming out of the 20-something and 30-something generations.
GOD help the WholeWideWorld.
Forever and Ever
BobLoblah
I hate the superhero films. I enjoyed the vampire stuff when it was Buffy and Angel, and then Wesley Snipes as Blade. But the Vampire Diaries, True Blood, Twilight ruined the entire vampire thing for me.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#141338 Nov 28, 2012
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>And of all the hundreds of Gods, what makes your particular brand true? How do you know Haniman the monkey God is not the true God? What evidence do you possess that says your God is more valid that the Christian God, or Allah?
I pose the same question to you.

“There's a feeling I get...”

Since: Jun 11

...when I look to the West

#141339 Nov 28, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
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And the double rows of teeth is just a wee bit sketchy.
I think there is some kind of 'conspiracy gene' in some people. The fundies would look upon those kind of pictures more favourable than the findings and (peer reviewed) conclusions of published palaeontologists, geologists and anthropologists.

People WANT to believe that others have it wrong.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#141340 Nov 28, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Your computations of star movement and etc are in error. That is why you now have dark matter, dark energy, and black holes.
The stars have been moving, as have the planets, and the galaxies, totally ignorant of the way they are supposed to.
Evidently they missed something in their development of the theory.
What you don't seem to understand is that the basic theory of gravity still works. It simply needs other matter that doesn't interact with light (except through gravity).
Gravity works between particles. Take away the balance of charge in an atom, and you increase the EM range of it. The sucker get unbalanced and starts reaching out. Only stronger than gravity does. BTW, this imbalance also reaches to the nuclear forces.
A very confused idea of what actually happens: single charges produce a Coulomb force that is stronger than gravity and also an inverse square force. But the forces from opposite charges tend to cancel each other out. For most matter (and this includes plasmas), the number of positive and the number of negative charges are the same (or very nearly so), so the net effect is that the force from the charges is very small.
A neutral atom doesn't emit the charge an unbalanced one does. This is the sort of thing that makes chemistry.
Atoms don't 'emit' charge. An atom with unbalanced charge will produce a Coulomb force. For *ionic* bonds, this is the main thing keeping the atoms together (although the repulsive forces from the other electrons is part of what keeps the atoms apart--again, a balancing act).
Your perception of electricity is a charge being passed within matter based upon a loosely bound electron KICKED out of a perfectly harmonious relationship and forced to find another. It's a bit more complicated than that.
My notion of electricity is charged particles in motion. For electricity in wires, that tends to be from moving electrons 'kicking' new electrons. But the actual motion of the electrons in the wire is very small. Much more relevant for energy transfer is the energy of the fields (as opposed to the particles).
Gravity as portrayed sucks. It really pushes.
We know how gravity works. Adding in E&M on a cosmic scale doesn't solve the problems of the background radiation, of galactic motion, or universal expansion (or even the appearance of it), etc. it is a failed theory because it doesn't agree with the evidence.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#141341 Nov 28, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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You should see these:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =YeBfMDJUxSAXX&playnext=1 &list=PL7CB4307A0E18E142
They're not possible, even with perfect health, anything more than I believe it was 8 feet would not be possible for the human anatomy.
Tallest man in history as verified by Guinness was Robert Wadlow at 8' 11".

Currently, the tallest living human is Sultan Kosen at 8'3".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_...

Since: Apr 11

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#141342 Nov 28, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
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The Passion of the Christ was better.
Much more graphic.
29Nov12....

.....Good 'ol Mel sure does have a way with both words and pictures.

Ps:....And a Roman Catholic to boot.

Forever and Ever
BobLoblah

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#141343 Nov 28, 2012
Double Fine wrote:
<quoted text>
I hate the superhero films. I enjoyed the vampire stuff when it was Buffy and Angel, and then Wesley Snipes as Blade. But the Vampire Diaries, True Blood, Twilight ruined the entire vampire thing for me.
29Nov12.....

......and the Zooooombies, the Walking Dead and those udder kinds of Bob Marley's are as idiotic as 'Brimstone','fireStarters','di mKing','christineM', and 'sidingDumbPhew'.

Ps:....Ya jest cannot beat the Classics. They are starting to reDo some of dem, but the originals will Not be beaten in our lifeDimes.

By da vey.....how is yer mudder!!!....and da Band.

Forever and Ever
BobLoblah

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#141344 Nov 28, 2012
polymath257 wrote:
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Tallest man in history as verified by Guinness was Robert Wadlow at 8' 11".
Currently, the tallest living human is Sultan Kosen at 8'3".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_...
29Nov12.....

.....and BobLoblah stands at 12' 4" high.

Ps:....and den sum tooooooooooooooo.

Forever and Ever
BobLoblah

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#141346 Nov 28, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
Poly, given a static EM and gravity environment,
Do you mean an environment with *no* gravity and EM, or one that has constant gravity and E&M? The answers are different.
explain to us how a decaying atom would move. What is the linkage to effect motion of the atom?
Decaying atom means nuclear decay. That tends to be from either a helium nucleus (alpha) or an electron (beta) being released from the nucleus of the original atom.

If there are *no* gravitational or EM fields, the alpha particle or electron will move apart in opposite directions. They will be oppositely charged, so there will be a Coulomb interaction after the decay which will slow their motion, but the size of this force compared to their speed will have a very small overall effect.

If there is a constant electric field, the two pieces will move apart and then curve in opposite directions as they move, essentially moving in parabolas, slightly modified by the force between the two charges.

If there is a constant magnetic field, the two pieces will end up spiraling around the lines of the magnetic field, again in opposite directions. This is slightly modified by the force between the two charges.

If there is only a gravitational field, then the two particles will move along parabolas, slightly modified by the force between them.

If there are more than one type of field, add together their influences: with both an electric and a magnetic field, the pieces spiral around parabolic paths, etc.
No sneakiness by having one of those random fluctuations doing a drive by.
All of these are easy applications of the Lorentz force law.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_force_la...

These are all classical descriptions, which are appropriate once the decay has finished.

The decay itself has to be described via quantum mechanics and is probabilistic in nature.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#141347 Nov 28, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Timw? Is this a joke I'm too dumb to get?
No, I'm the dumb one....

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#141348 Nov 28, 2012
_BobLoblah_ wrote:
<quoted text>29Nov12.....
.....the economy of the United Kingdom (UK...for eeejits) is so phuckedUP dat the Bank of England could NOT find anyOne locally to manage its affairs. For the first time in its history, the Bank of England has had to go outSide to find someOne to run the bank. They have chosen a person from Canada. It's on ALL da news toooooooooooo.
Ps:....Just goes to show how far 'down' da ladder things have come since the days od Charles Dickens's 'Oliver Twist'.
Something smells rotten in Denmark, BobLoblah thinks and anyTime within the next 10 - 12 years the Chinks will buy the UK.....if the muslimes have Not already done so tooooooo.
Forever and Ever
BobLoblah
... racism much?

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#141349 Nov 28, 2012
Double Fine wrote:
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How goes BobLoblah?
Haven't researched this in a while, but I believe that it has something to do with exposure to sunlight makes people manufacture melanin?
Natural selection acting on two clines.

In equatorial regions, UVA, B, and C are at their strongest. Hairless animals require melanin - as you write - a heavy molecule, to block the UV radiation. Unblocked, it destroys the follate (Vitamin B) in your blood. When that happens, your ability to produce new cells (heal, grow, and reproduce, and basic cellular activities) is impacted. So darker pigmentation is selected for.

At the same time, you produce Vit D in your skin. That's necessary for all things bone (growth and development, repair, teeth, joints, production of milk) and immune system function. You get enough, regardless of melatonin, in equatorial regions.

In North or South regions, the UV radiation becomes weaker and weaker the farther you get from the poles. You lose your need to protect your follate but increase your inability to produce Vit D. So lighter pigmentation is selected for.

In the middle regions, olive skin, or skin that can tan, is selected for, since the amount of UV radiation reaching the ground varies seasonally.

It's pretty simple and has nothing to do with "race," requiring only 7 genes or so out of more than 25 000. We can measure the UV radiation, vitamin B loss and vitamin D production directly - this isn't just a supported hypothesis, it's confirmed.

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#141350 Nov 28, 2012
Double Fine wrote:
<quoted text>
I hate the superhero films. I enjoyed the vampire stuff when it was Buffy and Angel, and then Wesley Snipes as Blade. But the Vampire Diaries, True Blood, Twilight ruined the entire vampire thing for me.
NO!!!

The first season of True Blood is great! The first season of the Vampire Dairies, if you use the fast forward button on the sappy stuff, is great!

Blade...well...uhm...yeah. Made for 12 year old boys.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#141351 Nov 28, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
You know, I teach this stuff. I really do. Anthropology and evolution and curious students requires that I am intimately familiar with how drugs of relaxation work. I get lots of fun questions from the students, like "if I do ecstasy on a daily basis, will it screw my brain up?"
Of course I answer "no, not at all." I mean, I have to keep my supply chains open and running. Poor kids.
Lol! I bet.

Ever hear of DMT, the spirit molecule?

Or ayahuasca?

Just watched documentaries on them. They look mighty interesting.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#141352 Nov 28, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>What? Where did you get that from? If I was going to be jealous of someone's intelligence, trust me, it would not be you.
And either way, I truly do not care that you think differently than me, even if you are "smarter" than me. I just don't like your constant generalizations about "topix atheists" that you like to weave into these ridiculous, rambling sermons.
And what are you going on about IQ for? I guarantee you if I, or anyone posted IQ scores you would accuse them of boasting and of putting too much faith in "the man's definition of intelligence."
:-)

"I just don't like your constant generalizations about "topix atheists" that you like to weave into these ridiculous, rambling sermons."

Change "Topix atheists" to religitards, christurds, stupid Christians, etc and you will understand why intelligent people, even if they aren't religious, are turned off by Topix atheists and get on here to make comments about them.

Hopefully you would.

“There's a feeling I get...”

Since: Jun 11

...when I look to the West

#141353 Nov 28, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
Natural selection acting on two clines.
In equatorial regions, UVA, B, and C are at their strongest. Hairless animals require melanin - as you write - a heavy molecule, to block the UV radiation. Unblocked, it destroys the follate (Vitamin B) in your blood. When that happens, your ability to produce new cells (heal, grow, and reproduce, and basic cellular activities) is impacted. So darker pigmentation is selected for.
At the same time, you produce Vit D in your skin. That's necessary for all things bone (growth and development, repair, teeth, joints, production of milk) and immune system function. You get enough, regardless of melatonin, in equatorial regions.
In North or South regions, the UV radiation becomes weaker and weaker the farther you get from the poles. You lose your need to protect your follate but increase your inability to produce Vit D. So lighter pigmentation is selected for.
In the middle regions, olive skin, or skin that can tan, is selected for, since the amount of UV radiation reaching the ground varies seasonally.
It's pretty simple and has nothing to do with "race," requiring only 7 genes or so out of more than 25 000. We can measure the UV radiation, vitamin B loss and vitamin D production directly - this isn't just a supported hypothesis, it's confirmed.
Very well written, by our favourite hot anthropologist!

<3

“There's a feeling I get...”

Since: Jun 11

...when I look to the West

#141354 Nov 28, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
NO!!!
The first season of True Blood is great! The first season of the Vampire Dairies, if you use the fast forward button on the sappy stuff, is great!
Blade...well...uhm...yeah. Made for 12 year old boys.
Well, to be honest... I was 12 when the film came out.

So I loved it!

Wesley Snipes is also a very believable badass. He spent years studying Kung Fu and Capuera. He is a very good fighter. The Twilight Vampires are sissies against him

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#141355 Nov 28, 2012
blacklagoon wrote:
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Why? Critical thinking is a type of reasonable, reflective thinking that is aimed at deciding what to believe or what to do......And what methodology do you use to determine if your beliefs are true?
Rational judgement.
It's entirely rational to trust the evidence presented by experts. It's also rational to trust what the majority say is true.


If that's so, then trust the majority of Americans that say God is real.
You do that with your doctor don't you, or do you say that medical science changes to much to trusted at all?
F_ck ya. I don't trust doctors at all, half the time the mis-diagnose & lead by guessing. They're nuts.
Mainstream science has proven that evolution is a fact 99% of ALL scientist worldwide accept that evolution is a fact.
Are you sure that it's 99%?

Besides, I've never said that evolution is not a fact...
Virtually EVERYONE. with the exception of religious fanatics, realize that evolution is factual.
Agreed.
In this day of information, it's absurd to think otherwise. Your statement that "it changes to much" is testimony to your ignorance on the subject.
No it's not. It does change too much. The "facts" get disputed by other "facts"...
You obviously have NO idea how or why evolution words. Stop reading articles from creationists, it WILL damage your brain!!!!
Obviously.....
I'll tell you your f--king crazy before we start drinking!!!!
That would be wise.

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