Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#139616 Nov 21, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Ah, the IRA... Y'all always call them Christians. Why?
Ahh an easy one

Because they are christians – just because you don’t accept it does not make it any the less true

Have you considered whether or not you helped top fund their murderous atrocities by contributing to NorAid?

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#139617 Nov 21, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
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"In 1968, the electromagnetic force and the weak interaction were unified, when they were shown to be two aspects of a single force, now termed the electro-weak force."
Yes, and a goal of physics for a LONG time has been to find a unified theory of all the forces. The best candidate we have for this is string theory, although the standard model unifies E&M, and the weak and strong forces.
Same process it appears. Not different and unique forces. They will find the same with the others once they clean their toy box out of particles, and all of their flavors. They have collected so many in their game they got confused about what they were doing.
No, you are describing one of the main goals of physics over the last century or so.
Weren't particles "made" after the Big Bang?
In a very loose way of speaking. More accurately, they formed from the energy via particle/anti-particle production.
Wasn't there a shrinking? That was back and forth motion, was it not?
No. No shrinking after the expansion got started.

“There's a feeling I get...”

Since: Jun 11

...when I look to the West

#139618 Nov 21, 2012
Atomic_G wrote:
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Still working to much... About to graduate... I am moving across country... And the biggest bonus I am in love.
Aussies land has not changed. Beautiful people, extreme weather and awesome surroundings.
How have you been?
Overworked, underpaid. Always hungry, always in need of female company and still watching sports!

Where you moving?

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#139619 Nov 21, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
Dave, did you know that computers never generate random numbers? Not at all, it's impossible for them to. This is because random is mathematically impossible, once an algorithm is developed to map out events it ceases to be random, because we just stop perceiving it as random. Computers simulate the unknown quantities by producing what we call pseudo-random values, based on a stored set of values in the chip set, these values are the response given whenever a "random" number is requested by the program.
Not entirely accurate. Pseudo-random numbers are the standard 'random number' produced by computers. But there are many ways of increasing the variability. For example, it is common in linux systems to have a store of 'entropy' produced from such things as key-stroke timings and mouse clicks to put into the seed. While this is still pseudo-random, it is much higher quality than the description you gave.

And for those who want *truly* random numbers, there are systems that monitor quantum events (radioactive decay, for example).
The point of all that, nothing, and I do mean nothing, in the universe is random, however, just because nothing is random doesn't mean everything has to have a "purpose."
And this is wrong. Almost all events at the quantum level (atoms and below) are random, but with a computable probability distribution. When an atom decays, for example, is a random thing: there is nothing different from an atom that decays now and one that decays tomorrow and one that decays next year.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#139620 Nov 21, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
Actually Hitler clearly stated he was and always would be a dedicated Christian. It was his Christianity that lead to him killing the Jews.
He said they were Christ killers and needed to be wiped out for that.
But as you admitted you are nothing but a fcktard as you so clearly demonstrate with all of your posts.
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I have argued this with him before, citing documented 3rd party sources, Hitler’s own writing, even Vatican actions. The only problem with RR is that facts mean nothing to him when then upset him and he can so easily “interpret” any proof to make his life all pink and fluffy

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#139621 Nov 21, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Ah, the IRA... Y'all always call them Christians. Why?
Because they believed in the divinity of Jesus.

“Faith means not wanting to ”

Since: Nov 10

know what is true.

#139622 Nov 21, 2012
Double Fine wrote:
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Overworked, underpaid. Always hungry, always in need of female company and still watching sports!
Where you moving?
I understand the over worked and under paid.... It has been my educational life. I am glad it is almost over.

I am moving to the beautiful, culturally advanced city of Melbourne. I live there once when I left school and I have spent allot of time there in the passed few months and I feel it is where I am meant to be and it will be the best place to embark on my career.

At the moment I am cramming all my final assessments in to get them in on time. It is a brilliant feeling, however I am planning my post grad... I am a sucker for punishment LMAO :D

“Faith means not wanting to ”

Since: Nov 10

know what is true.

#139623 Nov 21, 2012
Double Fine wrote:
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Overworked, underpaid. Always hungry, always in need of female company and still watching sports!
Where you moving?
I think I am finally growing up... about time Bahahaha :)

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#139624 Nov 21, 2012
Same here. Blessed are the lesbians.
Double Fine wrote:
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No doubt.
Double Fine is a proud lesbian
...
...
...
Trapped in the body of a man

“Faith means not wanting to ”

Since: Nov 10

know what is true.

#139625 Nov 21, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
Same here. Blessed are the lesbians.
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RAmen

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#139626 Nov 21, 2012
Blessed art the ones with sht stained left hands.
Aerobatty wrote:
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Only their left hand.
They're not TOTALLY uncivilized.
Dvi

Westerville, OH

#139627 Nov 21, 2012
Hedonist wrote:
How much faith does it take to not believe in Thor?
You dare doubt the almighty Thor? May he and his divine hammer show mercy on your pitiful soul!

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#139628 Nov 21, 2012
:) shhhh some Christholes may look that up and commit suicide :)
Atomic_G wrote:
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RAmen

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#139629 Nov 21, 2012
He admitted he was in his own words a fcktard to at least he is honest about his mental shortcomings.
ChristineM wrote:
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I have argued this with him before, citing documented 3rd party sources, Hitler’s own writing, even Vatican actions. The only problem with RR is that facts mean nothing to him when then upset him and he can so easily “interpret” any proof to make his life all pink and fluffy

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#139630 Nov 21, 2012
Loki was whispering in his ear! Show forgiveness!
Dvi wrote:
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You dare doubt the almighty Thor? May he and his divine hammer show mercy on your pitiful soul!

“There's a feeling I get...”

Since: Jun 11

...when I look to the West

#139631 Nov 21, 2012
Atomic_G wrote:
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I understand the over worked and under paid.... It has been my educational life. I am glad it is almost over.
I am moving to the beautiful, culturally advanced city of Melbourne. I live there once when I left school and I have spent allot of time there in the passed few months and I feel it is where I am meant to be and it will be the best place to embark on my career.
At the moment I am cramming all my final assessments in to get them in on time. It is a brilliant feeling, however I am planning my post grad... I am a sucker for punishment LMAO :D
Awesome amigo, we are crossing our fingers for you to get past the last exams!

Will you still be on Topix once every while?

“There's a feeling I get...”

Since: Jun 11

...when I look to the West

#139632 Nov 21, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
Same here. Blessed are the lesbians.
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Blessed are the straight girls who experiment, too!

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#139633 Nov 21, 2012
polymath257 wrote:
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Not entirely accurate. Pseudo-random numbers are the standard 'random number' produced by computers. But there are many ways of increasing the variability. For example, it is common in linux systems to have a store of 'entropy' produced from such things as key-stroke timings and mouse clicks to put into the seed. While this is still pseudo-random, it is much higher quality than the description you gave.
And for those who want *truly* random numbers, there are systems that monitor quantum events (radioactive decay, for example).
<quoted text>
And this is wrong. Almost all events at the quantum level (atoms and below) are random, but with a computable probability distribution. When an atom decays, for example, is a random thing: there is nothing different from an atom that decays now and one that decays tomorrow and one that decays next year.
The seeds from these events are based on the time of epoch still. ;)

Random is still simply a term of perception. Everything we perceive as random eventually becomes algorithmic, it's just the trend, thus it's safe to state that nothing is random. That does not mean it is planned.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#139634 Nov 21, 2012
http://www.vice.com/video

I love vice.com .

I have a fondness for people like this that seek an alternate reality for a while. A certain innocence and maturity, and of a temporary nature. They are still grounded.

Then you have the standard issue Topix atheists. Still floating around up there, but getting their thrill by pooping on people. The sense of empowerment they develop won't allow them to come back down.
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#139635 Nov 21, 2012
Just thought I'd write a short ex-C testimony to those who may be interested. I was a christian for several years, not sure exactly why it happened. I guess it was largely wishful thinking, and having indoctrination at childhood. Over time more and more doubts crept in as I realised my beliefs were not based on reality. A year ago I started to deconvert and now am no longer a christian. I eventually realised that my preivously christian beliefs were without justification, any rational justification, and were not supported by good evidence. I think the theists here cling onto their beliefs for emotional factors and because they have so much invested in them. They may fear the punishment of the god monster, they may believe in a loving Jesus cuddling lambs. But without reason and without good evidence, even intelligent people can belief weird and delusional things. Viva reason!!!

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