Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.
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Nov 20, 2012
 
Croco_Duck wrote:
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Yeah I read about that on MSN just the other day. Personally I don't like abortion if the fetus looks like a baby, but if it looks like and is the size of a pollywog, and has the nervous system similar to one, then I don't have as big a problem with that being aborted. The bible really doesn't mention the unborn much that I know of, so I don't see how Christians get riled by it. If all life is sacred them be a frikkin vegan and abolish the death penalty.
I don't like abortion at all, but when the mother is dying and she needs to have an abortion, then I don't care how many months pregnant she is, save her before she dies!!

I'm a vegatarian but I don't think I could be vegan.

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Nov 20, 2012
 
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Evolution?
Separate cells creating a larger entity?
Different cells for different purposes of a greater being? Even regulator cells to keep a balance.
Things like beehives and ant colonies? Individual units bound by some sort of mass mind? Even humans do some of that.
All of those are divisions of the same universal mass. Same planet, anyhow.
Pretty common.
Why do you find it such a leap?
And you think that any of these examples support the notion that the universe is conscious because we are conscious?

I'm getting kinda tired of this string of conversation. You seem to think that everyone else should be seeing these strange connections you make, and that since they are so "obvious," you needn't provide any evidence for them.

Also, I'm quite sure bees and ants do not have a "mass mind", at least in the traditional definition of the word mind. They just are good at communicating.

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Nov 20, 2012
 
Clementia wrote:
Thank you!
By the way, I'm in charge here so if you ever have any problems like bullying, stalking, dogs trying to hump your leg or anything else, just tell me and then I'll have a word with the 'guys' and they'll sort it all out! Ok?
Nice to have you on the forum, hope to hear more from you!!
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Thanks. So, you're in charge like how? Mod of this thread or the whole forum?

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Nov 20, 2012
 
Clementia wrote:
I don't like abortion at all, but when the mother is dying and she needs to have an abortion, then I don't care how many months pregnant she is, save her before she dies!!
I'm a vegatarian but I don't think I could be vegan.
I like bacon and pepperoni too much to be a vegetarian.

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Nov 20, 2012
 
Tide with Beach wrote:
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I've never jumped off of anything with a rubber band strapped to my ankles, but it sounds fun.
lol, you scare me even more. I couldn't do it on my own, the first time I would have to have those expert people strapped to me, but before I do that I climbing the Eiffel tower!

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Nov 20, 2012
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I'm sure you know everything about him. You atheists stick together.
Hitler was brought up Catholic, received the sacraments, had his birthday celebrated by a Mass, invoked God on numerous occasions. Where did you get the idea Hitler was an Atheist?

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Nov 20, 2012
 
Croco_Duck wrote:
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Thanks. So, you're in charge like how? Mod of this thread or the whole forum?
In charge like the Queen of England.

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Nov 20, 2012
 
Croco_Duck wrote:
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Thanks. So, you're in charge like how? Mod of this thread or the whole forum?
You're welcome!

Oh, Just on this thread, but I have had the experience of being in charge of the whole pakistan forum! That was a hard job, but someone had to do it!

I'm like the referee, I'm not against or on anyone's side! I'm going to start showing penalty cards soon!

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#139528
Nov 20, 2012
 
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Do I have to choose a side? Are we getting married?
Of course, you have to take my side!

Only, if you want to!:-)
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Nov 20, 2012
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Yes, you want God to have a mouth, hands, lungs, feet, etc so you can ridicule Him.
I ask again, why do you want God do have human attributes?
Why when the bible says that God breathed life into Adam does that mean (to you) that God MUST have a mouth & lungs?
I can show your God's immorality and evil nature without mentioning body parts.

How does one "Breath" without lungs? Are you saying we shouldn't take the words in the bible literally?

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

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Nov 20, 2012
 
Clementia wrote:
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Of course, you have to take my side!
Only, if you want to!:-)
Oh goody!
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Nov 20, 2012
 
Clementia wrote:
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Really? Is the Bible like the koran? Sorry, I've never been tempted to read the Bible.
Redneck, do you have a good explanation for all that? Why is the Bible saying that?
He'll tell you that the word is SERVANT and that is different for the word SLAVE. However the condition remain, one human OWNING another. Give me a moment and I'll post the exact passage about God endorsing slavery.

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blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Hitler was brought up Catholic, received the sacraments, had his birthday celebrated by a Mass, invoked God on numerous occasions. Where did you get the idea Hitler was an Atheist?
It's better to be an empathetic atheist, than a heartless believer!!

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Nov 20, 2012
 
Clementia wrote:
You're welcome!
Oh, Just on this thread, but I have had the experience of being in charge of the whole pakistan forum! That was a hard job, but someone had to do it!
I'm like the referee, I'm not against or on anyone's side! I'm going to start showing penalty cards soon!
Cool beans.
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Nov 20, 2012
 
Clementia wrote:
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Really? Is the Bible like the koran? Sorry, I've never been tempted to read the Bible.
Redneck, do you have a good explanation for all that? Why is the Bible saying that?


However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way.(Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

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Aura Mytha wrote:
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Oh goody!
But, I have to be honest with you, I was engaged to a poster before on pakistan forum, but it didn't work out. That left me heartbroken :'( and I'm worried about the same thing happening again. I don't know whether or not I should take the risk on us!
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Clementia wrote:
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Really? Is the Bible like the koran? Sorry, I've never been tempted to read the Bible.
Redneck, do you have a good explanation for all that? Why is the Bible saying that?


If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare,'I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.' If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever.(Exodus 21:2-6 NLT)

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Nov 20, 2012
 
blacklagoon wrote:
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However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way.(Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)
What the.....! But he said that's not christian law?
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Clementia wrote:
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Really? Is the Bible like the koran? Sorry, I've never been tempted to read the Bible.
Redneck, do you have a good explanation for all that? Why is the Bible saying that?
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property.(Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

You would think that Jesus and the New Testament would have a different view of slavery, but slavery is still approved of in the New Testament, as the following passages show.

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ.(Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them.(1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)

In the following parable, Jesus clearly approves of beating slaves even if they didn't know they were doing anything wrong.

The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it. "But people who are not aware that they are doing wrong will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given." (Luke 12:47-48 NLT)

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