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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#139514 Nov 20, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Another leap of logic. Our consciousness does not imply that the universe is conscious. Where do you get this stuff?
Evolution?

Separate cells creating a larger entity?

Different cells for different purposes of a greater being? Even regulator cells to keep a balance.

Things like beehives and ant colonies? Individual units bound by some sort of mass mind? Even humans do some of that.

All of those are divisions of the same universal mass. Same planet, anyhow.

Pretty common.

Why do you find it such a leap?

“Rising”

Since: Dec 10

Milky Way

#139515 Nov 20, 2012
Clementia wrote:
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Are you taking my side or his?

Do I have to choose a side? Are we getting married?

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#139516 Nov 20, 2012
Clementia wrote:
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Oh, ok! Thanks!
OMG, I always think my heart is going to stay up when the ride goes down, if you get what i'm saying? yh, i love rides, the carousel ride is my favourite, lol! Roller coaster rides are more bloody scary after watching final destination! Those films are f...aaaahhhhhhhhhhh, I can't even swear before i blumin scream. lol.
I really want to do a bungy jump! OMG i'm scared already! lol
I've never jumped off of anything with a rubber band strapped to my ankles, but it sounds fun.

Since: Oct 12

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#139517 Nov 20, 2012
Croco_Duck wrote:
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Ya got that right.
Thank you!

By the way, I'm in charge here so if you ever have any problems like bullying, stalking, dogs trying to hump your leg or anything else, just tell me and then I'll have a word with the 'guys' and they'll sort it all out! Ok?

Nice to have you on the forum, hope to hear more from you!!

:-)

Since: Sep 11

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#139518 Nov 20, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Nice post. I don't think your 100% atheist. You're open to the possibility of a god. I see that as a good start.
Dude. I am an atheist. Being an atheist does not mean I have to completely rule out the possibility of a god. I also haven't ruled out the possibility that unicorns exist. That doesn't mean I might one day believe in unicorns, it means that I am not willing to take on a position that is impossible to defend. It is impossible to ever completely rule something out.

And, as I said, I'm open to the possibility of a god, but not any god that man has described. Your books give your gods positive qualities, and therefore they are testable. We can take the claims made in the bible or the koran, and test them. For example - your god claims that he answers all prayers in his book - he does not do this. He claims to be all loving - he clearly is not. This makes your god very unlikely in my eyes, unless his book was a deliberate attempt to confuse.

Since: Oct 12

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#139519 Nov 20, 2012
Croco_Duck wrote:
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Yeah I read about that on MSN just the other day. Personally I don't like abortion if the fetus looks like a baby, but if it looks like and is the size of a pollywog, and has the nervous system similar to one, then I don't have as big a problem with that being aborted. The bible really doesn't mention the unborn much that I know of, so I don't see how Christians get riled by it. If all life is sacred them be a frikkin vegan and abolish the death penalty.
I don't like abortion at all, but when the mother is dying and she needs to have an abortion, then I don't care how many months pregnant she is, save her before she dies!!

I'm a vegatarian but I don't think I could be vegan.

Since: Sep 11

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#139520 Nov 20, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Evolution?
Separate cells creating a larger entity?
Different cells for different purposes of a greater being? Even regulator cells to keep a balance.
Things like beehives and ant colonies? Individual units bound by some sort of mass mind? Even humans do some of that.
All of those are divisions of the same universal mass. Same planet, anyhow.
Pretty common.
Why do you find it such a leap?
And you think that any of these examples support the notion that the universe is conscious because we are conscious?

I'm getting kinda tired of this string of conversation. You seem to think that everyone else should be seeing these strange connections you make, and that since they are so "obvious," you needn't provide any evidence for them.

Also, I'm quite sure bees and ants do not have a "mass mind", at least in the traditional definition of the word mind. They just are good at communicating.

Since: Nov 12

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#139521 Nov 20, 2012
Clementia wrote:
Thank you!
By the way, I'm in charge here so if you ever have any problems like bullying, stalking, dogs trying to hump your leg or anything else, just tell me and then I'll have a word with the 'guys' and they'll sort it all out! Ok?
Nice to have you on the forum, hope to hear more from you!!
:-)
Thanks. So, you're in charge like how? Mod of this thread or the whole forum?

Since: Nov 12

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#139522 Nov 20, 2012
Clementia wrote:
I don't like abortion at all, but when the mother is dying and she needs to have an abortion, then I don't care how many months pregnant she is, save her before she dies!!
I'm a vegatarian but I don't think I could be vegan.
I like bacon and pepperoni too much to be a vegetarian.

Since: Oct 12

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#139523 Nov 20, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
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I've never jumped off of anything with a rubber band strapped to my ankles, but it sounds fun.
lol, you scare me even more. I couldn't do it on my own, the first time I would have to have those expert people strapped to me, but before I do that I climbing the Eiffel tower!

Since: Nov 12

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#139524 Nov 20, 2012
I can tell it is getting to be winter. I just rubbed the cat up and down and placed him in a box with Styrofoam nuts. They all stuck to 'im.
blacklagoon

Hyde Park, MA

#139525 Nov 20, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I'm sure you know everything about him. You atheists stick together.
Hitler was brought up Catholic, received the sacraments, had his birthday celebrated by a Mass, invoked God on numerous occasions. Where did you get the idea Hitler was an Atheist?

Since: Sep 11

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#139526 Nov 20, 2012
Croco_Duck wrote:
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Thanks. So, you're in charge like how? Mod of this thread or the whole forum?
In charge like the Queen of England.

Since: Oct 12

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#139527 Nov 20, 2012
Croco_Duck wrote:
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Thanks. So, you're in charge like how? Mod of this thread or the whole forum?
You're welcome!

Oh, Just on this thread, but I have had the experience of being in charge of the whole pakistan forum! That was a hard job, but someone had to do it!

I'm like the referee, I'm not against or on anyone's side! I'm going to start showing penalty cards soon!

Since: Oct 12

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#139528 Nov 20, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Do I have to choose a side? Are we getting married?
Of course, you have to take my side!

Only, if you want to!:-)
blacklagoon

Hyde Park, MA

#139529 Nov 20, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Yes, you want God to have a mouth, hands, lungs, feet, etc so you can ridicule Him.
I ask again, why do you want God do have human attributes?
Why when the bible says that God breathed life into Adam does that mean (to you) that God MUST have a mouth & lungs?
I can show your God's immorality and evil nature without mentioning body parts.

How does one "Breath" without lungs? Are you saying we shouldn't take the words in the bible literally?

“Rising”

Since: Dec 10

Milky Way

#139530 Nov 20, 2012
Clementia wrote:
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Of course, you have to take my side!
Only, if you want to!:-)
Oh goody!
blacklagoon

Hyde Park, MA

#139531 Nov 20, 2012
Clementia wrote:
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Really? Is the Bible like the koran? Sorry, I've never been tempted to read the Bible.
Redneck, do you have a good explanation for all that? Why is the Bible saying that?
He'll tell you that the word is SERVANT and that is different for the word SLAVE. However the condition remain, one human OWNING another. Give me a moment and I'll post the exact passage about God endorsing slavery.

Since: Oct 12

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#139532 Nov 20, 2012
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Hitler was brought up Catholic, received the sacraments, had his birthday celebrated by a Mass, invoked God on numerous occasions. Where did you get the idea Hitler was an Atheist?
It's better to be an empathetic atheist, than a heartless believer!!

Since: Nov 12

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#139533 Nov 20, 2012
Clementia wrote:
You're welcome!
Oh, Just on this thread, but I have had the experience of being in charge of the whole pakistan forum! That was a hard job, but someone had to do it!
I'm like the referee, I'm not against or on anyone's side! I'm going to start showing penalty cards soon!
Cool beans.

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