Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#139197 Nov 19, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
http://forteana-blog.blogspot. com/2012/11/the-astrophysics-o f-gravity-modification.html
The mainstream theory of gravity sucks.
Sorry, MOND and other modified gravity theories *still* require dark matter to agree with observations. And that is even though MOND and TeVeS have some 'arbitrary wiggle' built into them.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#139198 Nov 19, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
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Eliminating superstition and all things supernatural has its advantages.
Less wasted time.
Also less time wasted on finding things to hate.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#139199 Nov 19, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Matter appears to exist, to other matter. It is a closed system of energy transfers.
Matter is not "solid". It is the energy that gives the appearance of separation and "solidity". Our space is a foam, if you believe the Big Bang.
You may trust cosmologists and astrophysicists, but I don't believe you understand what they have discovered. Perhaps you have latched onto the projections of some of them to reinforce your religious beliefs, or are drawing your own conclusions of what they have discovered to accomplish that same end.
Forces you can't see drive this existence, not what you see. That includes the assumed four fundamental forces.
Study up on the subject a little more before you speak with such certainty, because you are showing a lack of understanding of the actual physical processes. Your understanding appears very topical.
A little learning is a dangerous thing ;
Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring :
There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
And drinking largely sobers us again.

-Alexander Pope

Since: Sep 08

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#139200 Nov 19, 2012
polymath257 wrote:
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Sorry, MOND and other modified gravity theories *still* require dark matter to agree with observations. And that is even though MOND and TeVeS have some 'arbitrary wiggle' built into them.
All of your gravity based theories of the origination of the universe need new thingies to prop them up.

Shoulda got it right the first time. Or at least the first several.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

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#139201 Nov 19, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
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All of your gravity based theories of the origination of the universe need new thingies to prop them up.
Shoulda got it right the first time. Or at least the first several.
Okay Dave which theory of the origin of the universe is based on gravity alone?

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#139202 Nov 19, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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You have no idea what physicists say, you should not pretend you do.
Macbeth - Shakespear

"Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more: it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." -(Act V, Scene V).
blacklagoon

Hyde Park, MA

#139203 Nov 19, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Atheists often attribute God with human characterists and/or flaws. They do this so they can pretend to scientifically scrutinize Him. That's why they call Him skydaddy, say He's an old white man with a long white beard & say that He lives in the clouds....
Athitards are cute.
No, the bibles description involves human characteristic, as In "he created man i. HIS image and LIKENESS. Like "Who can know the mind of God." "And God LOOKED down", means he's got eyes, "and God SAID", a mouth also. "And God picked up the dirt" he's got hands, and blew on it, mouth again, and lungs. So your full of shit, once again,m it your bible and you Christians who have displayed your God with many human characteristics.

Yes, he has both, according to your holy book, human characteristics and FLAWS. like this:

1.) The first 4 commandments invoke your Gods obsession with VANITY.( No other Gods, no idols, don't say my name unless you mean it, and pay me respect on the sabbath.)

2.) He has uncontrollable fits of rage, and needs some serious anger management classes.

3.) He's a piss poor designer, one tube to both eat and breath. Check out the annual deaths from choking while eating. Hey, he did it with Whales and Dolphins. Must have been pissed off again.

4.) And for some unknown reason, he hates amputee's. I thought he was a kind, caring, loving, compassionate being. God's aren't supposed to hate are they?

5.) Refuses to reveal himself so that all would know he is the one true God. Instead he takes great pleasure in watching rival tribes butcher each other. I think he enjoys the divisive nature of religions in general. Now thats a serious flaw right?
blacklagoon

Hyde Park, MA

#139204 Nov 19, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Everyone has their beliefs.
No, some of us LACK a belief!!!
blacklagoon

Hyde Park, MA

#139205 Nov 19, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Should we gay an old science book about star formation? You know, back when they "knew" the Milky Way was the universe?
Or should we get a newer one, where they "know" more about gravity & hydrogen?
Or should we wait for a future science book where they'll "know" even more?
In your case, it shouldn't make much difference, anything with the basic, here's how stars and planets form.
blacklagoon

Hyde Park, MA

#139206 Nov 19, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Uh huh.
I can see where that would make life easier for you.
Correct, being logical, and realizing whats real and what is only imagined makes anyones life easier. You do know the saying, "Can't see the forest for the trees?" And..."your beliefs inform your actions, so having as few false beliefs as possible is a really good thing."

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#139207 Nov 19, 2012
Clementia wrote:
i also don't agree with atheists when they say the world just created itself.
The Earth didn't create itself.

Gravity created it.

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#139208 Nov 19, 2012
Clementia wrote:
God is some kind of energy or something like that, i'm waiting for science to figure it out!
So you're ok with "energy creating itself", but if science were to say that, you would have a problem with it?
Clementia wrote:
God is NOT an old man with a long white beard sitting on a cloud!!!!
I don't care if she's a young girl with a tattoo sitting on a bar stool. There's still not a single shred of evidence that points to her existence. So why believe in her?

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#139209 Nov 19, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
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Macbeth - Shakespear
Shakespear?

In journalism school (I know something about this), the first thing you have drilled into you is:

Read your copy, read your copy, then read your copy.

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#139210 Nov 19, 2012
Clementia wrote:
Yes, i believe in evoltion, big bang, etc........but something must have initiated those events and that is the thing i call God!
Ever watched something balancing on a very tiny point, and a small vibration makes it unbalanced and it falls off?

So what happens when you've got an entire Universe in a very high energy state (compressed into a very tiny space), and random quantum fluctuations cause it to fall from that very high energy state into a lower state resulting in a massive inflation in size?

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#139211 Nov 19, 2012
And how does science disprove any of that?
bossdrop wrote:
Science has disproved all of that.
Evidence?(From actual peer-reviewed scientific research articles, not from popular newspapers or magazines.)

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#139212 Nov 19, 2012
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>No, some of us LACK a belief!!!
We're comfortable being happy-go-lucky nonbelievers.

Nothing wrong with that!

No fear. Just do your best to lead a good and decent life.
blacklagoon

Hyde Park, MA

#139213 Nov 19, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
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We're comfortable being happy-go-lucky nonbelievers.
Nothing wrong with that!
No fear. Just do your best to lead a good and decent life.
Correct, no false beliefs to clutter your life. Isn't it amazing that we can still have compassion for our fellow brothers and sister on this planet, and not running around raping every women we see. All without a mythical being controlling our lives. Just how DO we do it!!!

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#139214 Nov 19, 2012
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Correct, no false beliefs to clutter your life. Isn't it amazing that we can still have compassion for our fellow brothers and sister on this planet, and not running around raping every women we see. All without a mythical being controlling our lives. Just how DO we do it!!!
We have empathy.
blacklagoon

Hyde Park, MA

#139215 Nov 19, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Should we gay an old science book about star formation? You know, back when they "knew" the Milky Way was the universe?
Or should we get a newer one, where they "know" more about gravity & hydrogen?
Or should we wait for a future science book where they'll "know" even more?
All Cosmological evidence point to clouds of dust and gas which gradually coalesced under the influence of its overall gravitational field. The gravitational field intensified steadily as material condensed, thus hastening further condensation.

This condensation produced out present sun, but it isn't likely that it did so in one smooth process. There must have been subcondensations formed so that there was a stage during the formation of the solar system where there were innumerable chunks of icy or rocky material--colliding, gorging, breaking up, recoalescing, and so on, and most of it gradually ending up in the central body.

As the coalescing Sun turns faster and faster, the centrifugal effects that tend to throw outward form the center grow marked, particularly where the rate of turn is greatest--at the equatorial region of the coalescing body. As the Sun progresses toward its formation, it becomes an ellipsoid, with matter jutting far out from the equatorial regions in the form of a thinning sheet.

The matter within this equatorial regional sheet can coalesce to form conglomerations of matter smaller than the central body---conglomerations that will continue to move about the Sun caught in the grip of that body's strong gravitational field and themselves separated by great enough distances from the Sun and from each other to be safe from collisions or near collisions that would alter their orbits drastically. And thus we end with planets circling the Sun.........So, now you know!!!!

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#139216 Nov 20, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
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Well, they are from a science experiment some time ago and I no longer have a purpose for them. I think the answer is to chuck the magnet tower. Recyclable?
URGENT URGENT URGENT URGENT

DANGER DANGER DANGER DANGER

If you suspect they have been super glued together

DO NOT I REPEAT DO NOT HEAT THEM

Super glue when heated releases CYANIDE GAS

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