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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Since: Jun 11

...when I look to the West

#139249 Nov 20, 2012
Richardfs wrote:
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Then you told him to heat them without any warning.
Hey, just a thought... What if someone would ingest superglue?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#139251 Nov 20, 2012
_BobLoblah_ wrote:
<quoted text>20Nov12.....
.....at least you spell Christmas as 'Christmas' and NOT as 'Xmas' like those Commies do by crossing Christ out of Christmas.
Ps:....Guess you took some rags and 'blew' some schidt-for-brains outta yer skull. Having hosts dat have intelligence vill do dat to hypocrites like you.
....so be on yer toes. Americans know a fake when dey see one.
By da vey,'Happy Holidays'.
Forever and Ever
BobLoblah
Xmas

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#139252 Nov 20, 2012
Richardfs wrote:
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Then you told him to heat them without any warning.
He's a lawyer.

Are you trying to interfere with my getting a public service award?

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#139253 Nov 20, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Tsk.
I told him to check for super glue first.
Gee thanks.

Since: Apr 11

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#139254 Nov 20, 2012
Thinking wrote:
As it is a rude gesture on this side of the pond, I have two fingers just for his sort... thank you Apple trackpad for two finger scrolling.
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21Nov12.....

.....LIAR thou arth.

You read everyding dat comes down da pipes from BobLoblah.

Ps:.....BobLoblah lives on NO side of da pond from you,'dinKing'.

Ever and Ever
BobLoblah

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Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#139255 Nov 20, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
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Shakespear?
In journalism school (I know something about this), the first thing you have drilled into you is:
Read your copy, read your copy, then read your copy.
.. don’t think of what you critique as “dumbing down” your writing. It is, but don’t think of it that way ..

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#139256 Nov 20, 2012
bossdrop wrote:
<quoted text>I like it! As I like to say of atheists..a mind is a terrible thing to waste ;)
And your summation is the whole point and bottom line...it could not have happened on its own. And for people with a mind to actually believe it could, shows their ultimate delusional fantasy and desperate effort to eliminate God from existence. I think atheists are sad and funny.
It's more beautiful when you listen to it or read it in gurmukhi, because the verses rhyme and are very sweet.

I don't have any problem with atheists! I have a problem with people who think they know it all and who then try to enforce their view on me. Normally, but not always, these people are the religious nuts! The atheists I know, told me about their beliefs but they have never tried to 'convert' me. That 'virtue' only belongs to the fanatic religious people.
Thinking

Andover, UK

#139258 Nov 20, 2012
I think the danger would be adhering vital surfaces, the windpipe being the most likely? If (big if) you survived the glue setting, I think you'd pass it through fairly safely. I once glued my hands together for a bet, warm water undermined that bond soon enough.

Wouldn't recommend it though.
Double Fine wrote:
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Hey, just a thought... What if someone would ingest superglue?

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#139259 Nov 20, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
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Who says the world just created itself?
I'm an atheist. I would never say that. Every atheist I know would not say that. Are you sure it was an atheist?
I can assure you, atheists in general don't hold the opinion that the world created itself. That would require that the world existed before it existed, in order to create itself.
Try to be more articulate in the future.
:)
SORRY!! I have a habit of talking in generalities and not being very articulate, I'm honestly sorry. I will definitely try to express my view more clearly.

An atheist never actually said that the world just created itself, that was just me being stupid and lazy to write out what he actually said, sorry again.

The problem is that most religious people don't want to understand atheists and vice versa. My belief isn't that different to most atheists. The main difference is that I use the word God where atheists use a question mark, other than that we agree on mostly everything else. If we all tried to understand eachother, I believe there wouldn't be any arguements.

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#139260 Nov 20, 2012
Ooops, I meant arguments.

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#139261 Nov 20, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
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I can't do anything about it on my end.
You can do anything and everything, you just have to believe!:-)
Thinking

Andover, UK

#139262 Nov 20, 2012
So why do so many children die of childhood leukaemia? Don't enough people want them to survive?
Clementia wrote:
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You can do anything and everything, you just have to believe!:-)

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#139263 Nov 20, 2012
Double Fine wrote:
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Somehow, I doubt her rifle skills.
Which end hurts the people again?

“There's a feeling I get...”

Since: Jun 11

...when I look to the West

#139264 Nov 20, 2012
Thinking wrote:
I think the danger would be adhering vital surfaces, the windpipe being the most likely? If (big if) you survived the glue setting, I think you'd pass it through fairly safely. I once glued my hands together for a bet, warm water undermined that bond soon enough.
Wouldn't recommend it though.
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You glued your hands together for a bet?

Using what?

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#139265 Nov 20, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
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All of your gravity based theories of the origination of the universe need new thingies to prop them up.
Shoulda got it right the first time. Or at least the first several.
There is a difference between having the right theory of gravity and having the right theory of the different types of matter. Modified gravity theories all require dark matter to agree with the observations. There is simply no other way to account for the *detailed* observations of lensing and stellar/galactic velocities. But the standard theory also works under the assumption that there is dark matter. It is also easier and more motivated than the modified gravity theories.

And no, it is NOT a requirement that we 'get it right' the first time, or the second time, or even the hundredth time. The scientific method works by *continually* subjecting our ideas to tests and modifying or rejecting those theories that don't hold up. Even when the basic theories are correct, the specifics of any particular situation are still unknown, so the details are still subject to testing and re-evaluation.

In the case of dark matter, the basic theory of gravity (i.e, general relativity) stay intact, but we add a new type of matter to what was known previously. This type of matter is also consistent with our modern views of particle physics (there are many different possibilities for the identity of dark matter), so this is not a stretch. Why would we expect all types of matter to interact with light?

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#139266 Nov 20, 2012
polymath257 wrote:
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There is a difference between having the right theory of gravity and having the right theory of the different types of matter. Modified gravity theories all require dark matter to agree with the observations. There is simply no other way to account for the *detailed* observations of lensing and stellar/galactic velocities. But the standard theory also works under the assumption that there is dark matter. It is also easier and more motivated than the modified gravity theories.
And no, it is NOT a requirement that we 'get it right' the first time, or the second time, or even the hundredth time. The scientific method works by *continually* subjecting our ideas to tests and modifying or rejecting those theories that don't hold up. Even when the basic theories are correct, the specifics of any particular situation are still unknown, so the details are still subject to testing and re-evaluation.
In the case of dark matter, the basic theory of gravity (i.e, general relativity) stay intact, but we add a new type of matter to what was known previously. This type of matter is also consistent with our modern views of particle physics (there are many different possibilities for the identity of dark matter), so this is not a stretch. Why would we expect all types of matter to interact with light?
I agree with much of what you posted.

Now, why the outright denial a supernatural force is responsible? You certainly don't have enough evidence to make that a fact.
Thinking

Andover, UK

#139267 Nov 20, 2012
A veritable palm full of Loctite Super Glue. Took about 50 minutes to work loose.
Double Fine wrote:
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You glued your hands together for a bet?
Using what?

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#139268 Nov 20, 2012
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>STOP!!! STOP being so friggin childish. The world didn't "just create itself." Why the hell don't you quite the dumb broad routine, and learn some science!! Grow the frig up and read a science book, anyone will do for a start. In this era of abundant information, making a statement like "the world just didn't create itself" is almost criminal. The information is there for all to learn, refute it all you want, but learn what science says about how stars and planet are formed. Being willfully ignorant is one of the worst traits a human can have. Educate yourself, you're looking incredibly stupid!!!!
Hold your horses! I surrender to your criticism, now put the friggin pistol of scrutiny away.

Thanks, sometimes I need a good telling off to calm be down!

“There's a feeling I get...”

Since: Jun 11

...when I look to the West

#139269 Nov 20, 2012
Thinking wrote:
A veritable palm full of Loctite Super Glue. Took about 50 minutes to work loose.
<quoted text>
Wait.

So you glued it, allowed it to set, then worked it loose, instead of washing it off?

On a tangent, what did you have to drink before said event?

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#139270 Nov 20, 2012
Thinking wrote:
So why do so many children die of childhood leukaemia? Don't enough people want them to survive?
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I was joking with 'Tide', that had nothing to do with you or anybody else!

Ask that question to people who think we can control death. Also ask those people that think they know what God is upto. I don't have the answer!

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