Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Thinking

Andover, UK

#138281 Nov 17, 2012
Why?

I rather like sunsets.
Just Results wrote:
Nothing pleases me more than seeing the failures and worries of atheists.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#138282 Nov 17, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13...
I haven't got a clue why they would think so. Why did Christianity develop along the lines of worshiping one human sacrifice and a virgin birth? No idea. Culture is like that. People pick up on some idea and it becomes relevant to them.
The thing about low tech cultures is that they aren't stupid, Dave. The worm thing isn't any kind of science going on - these are just people who are constantly infected with parasitic worms. There's no getting away from infection, unless you have good sewers and pavement. So they have myths and magic that deal with worms. But people in low-tech cultures make deductive observations, too. They've come up with all kinds of medicines for ailments. The Luo actually have de-worming medication they make from herbs to control the worm population in their bodies. Unlike our medicine, though, theirs won't clear the body of parasites. They act to decrease the parasites rather than destroy them all.
Such deductions, over a long period of time are also behind some spiritual beliefs and morality, including gay sex.

Told you it would be used against you.

The idea behind the Christian virgin birth and sacrifice was God realized it was to big for us to see. Therefore it melded with us, imparting part of itself directly within human form that then had to deal with the physical world. God went slumming. This gave a face to the message it had been trying to pass on, but was too big and vague for mankind to see. God set man loose way back, and this was the way he tried to call some back home. Reuniting with the creative spirit.

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#138283 Nov 17, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Such deductions, over a long period of time are also behind some spiritual beliefs and morality, including gay sex.
Told you it would be used against you.
The idea behind the Christian virgin birth and sacrifice was God realized it was to big for us to see. Therefore it melded with us, imparting part of itself directly within human form that then had to deal with the physical world. God went slumming. This gave a face to the message it had been trying to pass on, but was too big and vague for mankind to see. God set man loose way back, and this was the way he tried to call some back home. Reuniting with the creative spirit.
I reckon you would be stupid like that.
Thinking

Andover, UK

#138284 Nov 17, 2012
I was referring to his book "Crash"- disturbing but beautifully written.
River Tam wrote:
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I'm sure Shanghai is much different now.
I'm not sure if he would approve or not but it's still here.
Thinking

Andover, UK

#138285 Nov 17, 2012
You may be right. But having seen someone suffer from Crohn's I'd use worms when the steroids and immunosuppressants stop working.
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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I'm going to argue in an upcoming paper that liking and not liking parasitic worms is cultural. Developed nations find them utterly disgusting, but many low-tech cultures believe they're essential for health.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#138286 Nov 17, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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I have a confession, RR. I'm actually the actor, James Woods.
Oh, no! I feel a transformation happening!!!
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooo
James Woods is invisible to me...

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#138287 Nov 17, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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No, those were pretty conclusive results. In each trial with good methodology - double blind studies - prayer has no results on those who don't know they're being prayed for.
For those who are being prayed for, and know it, they have slightly worse outcomes, presumably because they feel guilty.
However, if you pray for yourself, you have a slightly better outcome, equal to a weak placebo effect.
Ya, right, sure. Science has tapped into the supernatural effects of prayer & deemed them useless...

<<^^COUGH^^>> BULLSHIT!

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#138288 Nov 17, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
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I would like to encourage everyone to go to this site and listen to this son of a bit*h talk.
He is the fastest talking salesman I have ever heard in my life.
That bastard has to be on meth. Tim I started laughing and couldnít stop.
That as**ole has to be a auctioneer in real life.
Thatís the funniest thing I have seen in a while. This guy should be on Americas Funniest Videos.
You were doing this all as a joke right, cause you when over the top with humor.
I hit the link when read this, and you're right--it made me laugh and laugh. I'm sure you know, though, that Coyne doesn't talk like that. The "compression" begins with editing out unwanted sentences, not doubt, but continues by reducing the length of the pauses between sentences and words. Then the audio and video were sped up (there are tools for speeding up sound files without altering the pitch), resulting in the clip that we see.

Here's that link again:

http://www.thegodlessheathen.com/post/2012/9/...

And here's the lecture from which it was condensed:



I actually kind of like the compressed one--it presents the ideas at a speed that my mind appreciates.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#138289 Nov 17, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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wooooooooshhhhhh...WHACK!
"Hiding, what the hell?"
"RR, I just hit you with a whole lot of evolution!"
"Damn, that smarts girl, now git me a beer."
"Oh...ok."
"And a sammich!"
WHACK!
"Ouch! Hiding, what the hell?"
"I just hit you with a whole lot of evo..."
Well, shit, with THAT kind of evidence....

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#138290 Nov 17, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Ok...first line in your first link:
"The efficacy of prayer has been the topic of various studies since Francis Galton first addressed it in 1872. Double-blind studies have failed to find any effect."
Yes, the studies. I forgot about the studies.... The link also says: "There are, of course, also certain types of prayer whose efficacy can not be measured in the physical world"

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#138291 Nov 17, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
I just gave you the window period in which it must have occurred - 6 to 2 million years ago.
HA! Oh, ha HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!

"somewhere between 2 & 6 million years ago....

What a load!

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#138292 Nov 17, 2012
NightSerf wrote:
<quoted text>I hit the link when read this, and you're right--it made me laugh and laugh. I'm sure you know, though, that Coyne doesn't talk like that. The "compression" begins with editing out unwanted sentences, not doubt, but continues by reducing the length of the pauses between sentences and words. Then the audio and video were sped up (there are tools for speeding up sound files without altering the pitch), resulting in the clip that we see.
Here's that link again:
http://www.thegodlessheathen.com/post/2012/9/...
And here's the lecture from which it was condensed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =w1m4mATYoigXX
I actually kind of like the compressed one--it presents the ideas at a speed that my mind appreciates.
Thank you, I did realize it was compressed, lol. I just wanted to have some fun with Tim, lol.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#138293 Nov 17, 2012
Clementia wrote:
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sweetie dear, but in your heart u already judged them!! am i wrong again?
Yes darling you are wrong. I learned a long time ago itís not my place to judge people into eternity. Judgment is reserved for God almighty.

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#138297 Nov 17, 2012
Clementia wrote:
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yh i know, but she'll have to kill me to do that. I'm not living in a world that doesn't allow me to believe in my religion!!! The saints are the only people that are good on this planet, i'm never going to stop loving them, i'd rather die then live without love!!!!!!
If i can accept people not believing in God, why can't she accept people that believe in him? atheists are murders and rapists too, i don't say, OMG the atheist is a rapist coz he doesn't believe in God. Noooooooooooooo, he's a rapist coz he doesn't understand love!!!! Just coz people say they love God from their mouths, that doesn't mean they love him from their hearts!
I'm going to let Kitten handle this.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#138298 Nov 17, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
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Don't confuse eagle any further.
He is a basket case.
Do you know what that means, a basket case?
I realize that Iím one of your most admired posters. I do find you rather interesting. Why you felt the need to parade as two different posters is beyond me. Iím a little disappointed that you did that and continue to do so. Perhaps it was the sport of it all.

It destroys your credibility. Then all this tagging you do. Itís like you are seeking attention. Isnít that why young people tag vacant buildings? They want people to know theyíre there and that they have a message.

I just find it hard to believe a lawyer would spend his time doing this sort of thing. But who knows maybe you are a lawyer. In my mind the jury is out on that issue. Lots of people know about the law including court clerks. Who knows what you do for a living. Honesty from you would be refreshing.

I will admit I have chopped away at your over inflated ego. I do realize that you are not a evil person at least you have a love for animals. A lot of people who live in social isolation tend to be drawn to animals that donít disappoint them. In your real life you have faced perhaps some deep disappointments in relationships that left you heartbroken.

You are fiercely guarding your heart. Not letting anyone come close enough to break your heart again. We are all a product of our upbringing. How we were molded and shaped back in childhood has made us what we are today.
I hope you have the courage to love someone again. If you never do I shall understand the pain and agony cut deep into your heart.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#138299 Nov 17, 2012
Well your imaginary play world is irrelevant.

And Catholics are Christians no matter how much scream with years rolling down your fat face.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Yes, the studies. I forgot about the studies.... The link also says: "There are, of course, also certain types of prayer whose efficacy can not be measured in the physical world"

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#138300 Nov 17, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
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No, not a dirty meaning.
Tide, you explain it to Clementine.
@Clementia:

Smoking after sex occurs when there is so much friction, the pubic hair dries out and starts to smoke, and has on occasion, caught fire. Shaving the pubic hair prevents this, and is a safety measure that nobody should overlook.

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#138301 Nov 17, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
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@Clementia:
Smoking after sex occurs when there is so much friction, the pubic hair dries out and starts to smoke, and has on occasion, caught fire. Shaving the pubic hair prevents this, and is a safety measure that nobody should overlook.
You forgot about using a water based fire reduction system ,
(KY jelly). Or you could just use the cave man method (spit in it).
HA ha hah!

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#138302 Nov 17, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
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I realize that Iím one of your most admired posters. I do find you rather interesting. Why you felt the need to parade as two different posters is beyond me. Iím a little disappointed that you did that and continue to do so. Perhaps it was the sport of it all.
It destroys your credibility. Then all this tagging you do. Itís like you are seeking attention. Isnít that why young people tag vacant buildings? They want people to know theyíre there and that they have a message.
I just find it hard to believe a lawyer would spend his time doing this sort of thing. But who knows maybe you are a lawyer. In my mind the jury is out on that issue. Lots of people know about the law including court clerks. Who knows what you do for a living. Honesty from you would be refreshing.
I will admit I have chopped away at your over inflated ego. I do realize that you are not a evil person at least you have a love for animals. A lot of people who live in social isolation tend to be drawn to animals that donít disappoint them. In your real life you have faced perhaps some deep disappointments in relationships that left you heartbroken.
You are fiercely guarding your heart. Not letting anyone come close enough to break your heart again. We are all a product of our upbringing. How we were molded and shaped back in childhood has made us what we are today.
I hope you have the courage to love someone again. If you never do I shall understand the pain and agony cut deep into your heart.
Eagle. You're batshit crazy.

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#138303 Nov 17, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
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You forgot about using a water based fire reduction system ,
(KY jelly). Or you could just use the cave man method (spit in it).
HA ha hah!
Safety first, then teamwork.

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