Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story
Thinking

Dalry, UK

#138108 Nov 16, 2012
I call Poe.
Clementia wrote:
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How can you say that about someone's belief? Surely, the Bible can't be that bad!!!!!

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#138109 Nov 16, 2012
Clementia wrote:
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I didn't say that. You're twisting what I said. I'm pH 7!!!!!I can't say anything like that!
You did, you just worded in a manner that makes it "feel" better to you is all, so you can pretend you didn't. If something is fact then it does not need interpretation nor is it allegory, those are both contradictory to fact.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#138110 Nov 16, 2012
Clementia wrote:
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How can you say that about someone's belief? Surely, the Bible can't be that bad!!!!!
If you want truth, here it is, the bible is the most gory, violent, hate filled book of smut on the planet. Even the Koran, or however that's spelled, has less blood, guts, torture, killing, raping, and genocide in it. The god in the bible is a monster, who even Cthulhu would be hard pressed to match on a good day.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#138111 Nov 16, 2012
Thinking wrote:
I call Poe.
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Who are you posing to be? What are you? Atheist or christian?

FYI...I'm abit sloooooooooooow! you have to be frank with me, dear.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#138112 Nov 16, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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You did, you just worded in a manner that makes it "feel" better to you is all, so you can pretend you didn't. If something is fact then it does not need interpretation nor is it allegory, those are both contradictory to fact.
Look, I don't like hurting people, ok! I personally don't agree with some things written in the Bible, but I have met nice christians too, so for them i don't want to say nasty things to their religion. If that is what helps them become better people then that is fine with me. I said before that we are responsible for our own actions, we need to stop blaming religion for everything. God gave us a brain, we should use it!!!
Thinking

Dalry, UK

#138113 Nov 16, 2012
I'm a very open hand.
Clementia wrote:
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Who are you posing to be? What are you? Atheist or christian?
FYI...I'm abit sloooooooooooow! you have to be frank with me, dear.

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#138114 Nov 16, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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I see it a whole lot differently, than you.
I applied for a job, when I was 16.{Details are not required for the story}
I had a dream that night about not getting the job.
A day or so later, every detail of my dream came true.
A few nights later, I had another dream about the job.
A day or so later, every detail of my dream came true.
Can you explain that? No.
Nearly 40 years has passed and I never experienced another dream that came true like those two did.
A scientist would study such an event and a believer would claim that god did it and they are sure that there is a reason behind it.
For awhile some time ago (in my notes LOL) I was writing about certain dreams, describing their main image as such, and when the 'event of my dream' occurred, I was giving the links to the sources and how the event fitted in with the cryptic image.

I stopped doing it after about 7 (listed somewhere) because I realised all I would be doing would be making people scared of something somewhere would happen.

We all have the ability to work out the standing out point in the dream; and keep it in focus. We can actually be aware of ourselves in our dreams; I studied dream control for awhile and it works. Simply a matter of concentration and focus. The focus I used when I was aware I was dreaming was a scar left on my hand from a drip many years ago ~ and when we are in control, dreams take on a whole different aspect. You can take it where ever you want :)

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#138115 Nov 16, 2012
I believe the information is probably already stored in our DNA, we are only repeating that which is just somewhere a little bit ahead of ourselves, somewhere down the track.

When something triggers of the realisation that you are exactly where you knew you were going to be gives you an awe inspiring Spiritual feeling of the grandest kind :)

“Fortes Fortuna Juvat, ”

Since: Dec 09

Wichita. Ks.

#138116 Nov 16, 2012
Clementia wrote:
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Look, I don't like hurting people, ok! I personally don't agree with some things written in the Bible, but I have met nice christians too, so for them i don't want to say nasty things to their religion. If that is what helps them become better people then that is fine with me. I said before that we are responsible for our own actions, we need to stop blaming religion for everything. God gave us a brain, we should use it!!!
That is the point. With a lot of religions you should not think for yourself, but only do as you are told.

Yes there are numerous good religious people, but for most religions it is their way or the highway.

It is religious beliefs that cause a lot of problems and death in the world to day as it has been for centuries. It is only when one understands the need for religion and the obedience of the followers does one see the truth in religion. The old saying the blind leading the blind is the foundation of religion.

You say “god gave us a brain” but most religions people refuse to use it.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#138117 Nov 16, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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If you want truth, here it is, the bible is the most gory, violent, hate filled book of smut on the planet. Even the Koran, or however that's spelled, has less blood, guts, torture, killing, raping, and genocide in it. The god in the bible is a monster, who even Cthulhu would be hard pressed to match on a good day.
yh, i read the koran when i was really young, i had f*cking nightmares!!! honest to God, i was scared!!

coz i went to christian primary school, we were always told good things about jesus. He was a good man who didn't harm anyone, so how can the Bible be bad then? Jesus even said to God, " Father forgive them, for they know not what they do." How can a man who is asking God to forgive his enemies be bad? I really don't get it.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#138119 Nov 16, 2012
Thinking wrote:
I'm a very open hand.
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ok,ok,ok! we playin that game, r we? well u go on and play, pal!! I'll just ask the 'guys' what u r!!

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#138120 Nov 16, 2012
Clementia wrote:
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Look, I don't like hurting people, ok! I personally don't agree with some things written in the Bible, but I have met nice christians too, so for them i don't want to say nasty things to their religion. If that is what helps them become better people then that is fine with me. I said before that we are responsible for our own actions, we need to stop blaming religion for everything. God gave us a brain, we should use it!!!
most time your posts are posts glorifing yourselves,whoa are you,most words are I I I I
even your avatar picture shows narcizm very deadly and ugly end of horible dissapointment

focus rather on eternal beauty of God,and all doubts and own earthly weak narcizm will dissapear,
and you start to be most beautiful spiritual creation belonging only to God Creator of all beauties and awsome antidimesional Universes with milions spiritual planets turning around in the eternal light of GREAT GOD HA SHEME

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#138121 Nov 16, 2012
Unable to dispute facts? Check.
Totally reliant on childish ad hom? Check.

Daffy as usual fails in epic proportions? Check.

Oh well you are here for our personal amusement after all.
Eagle12 wrote:
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Thank you,
I always enjoy a piss ants view of things. So much so that I’m going to set your opinion in a art form in concrete.
[boot centered over piss ant]
[boot comes down on piss ant]
[piss ant is now a collage in concrete]

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#138122 Nov 16, 2012
Very Cynical Person wrote:
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That is the point. With a lot of religions you should not think for yourself, but only do as you are told.
Yes there are numerous good religious people, but for most religions it is their way or the highway.
It is religious beliefs that cause a lot of problems and death in the world to day as it has been for centuries. It is only when one understands the need for religion and the obedience of the followers does one see the truth in religion. The old saying the blind leading the blind is the foundation of religion.
You say “god gave us a brain” but most religions people refuse to use it.
It's not like that with sikhi/vedic religions, we told to think about things! The GGS asks questions like, "how were we created, why were we created, what's the point" and then it tries to answer those questions, but then even GGS says, nobody really knows the answers to those questions but maybe as God increases our intellect, we might one day understand things abit better.

Sikhism is against every kind of ritual done for God. To understand God, understand your own heart and then the heart of other's and you will see God!!! Without love (or as Tide calls it, empathy) rituals done for God have no meaning at all.

verses from GGS about rituals in all the religions;

The Vedas and the Scriptures (ketab: bible and koran) are only make-believe (the rituals only, not the bani tho, that's true), O Siblings of Destiny; they do not relieve the anxiety of the heart. If you will only center yourself on the Lord, even for just a breath, then you shall see the Lord face-to-face, present before you.|| 1 ||

O human being, search your own heart every day, and do not wander around in confusion. This world is just a magic-show; no one will be holding your hand.|| 1 || Pause ||

Reading and studying falsehood, people are happy; in their ignorance, they speak nonsense. The True Creator Lord is diffused into His creation; He is not in the image the dark-skinned Krishna of legends.|| 2 ||
christianity is EVIL

Halifax, Canada

#138123 Nov 16, 2012
Clementia wrote:
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yh, i read the koran when i was really young, i had f*cking nightmares!!! honest to God, i was scared!!
coz i went to christian primary school, we were always told good things about jesus. He was a good man who didn't harm anyone, so how can the Bible be bad then? Jesus even said to God, " Father forgive them, for they know not what they do." How can a man who is asking God to forgive his enemies be bad? I really don't get it.
you dont know your Jesus very well do ya?

http://nobeliefs.com/jesus.htm

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#138124 Nov 16, 2012
BIBLE TRUE JEHOVA wrote:
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most time your posts are posts glorifing yourselves,whoa are you,most words are I I I I
even your avatar picture shows narcizm very deadly and ugly end of horible dissapointment
focus rather on eternal beauty of God,and all doubts and own earthly weak narcizm will dissapear,
and you start to be most beautiful spiritual creation belonging only to God Creator of all beauties and awsome antidimesional Universes with milions spiritual planets turning around in the eternal light of GREAT GOD HA SHEME
Two points:-
1. Which god?
2. Please learn to use the spell checker.

All you have done so far is prove how dumb you are.
christianity is EVIL

Halifax, Canada

#138125 Nov 16, 2012
BIBLE TRUE JEHOVA wrote:
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most time your posts are posts glorifing yourselves,whoa are you,most words are I I I I
even your avatar picture shows narcizm very deadly and ugly end of horible dissapointment
focus rather on eternal beauty of God,and all doubts and own earthly weak narcizm will dissapear,
and you start to be most beautiful spiritual creation belonging only to God Creator of all beauties and awsome antidimesional Universes with milions spiritual planets turning around in the eternal light of GREAT GOD HA SHEME
do tell...,how can you focus on something thats NOT real??
Doctor REALITY

Little Rock, AR

#138126 Nov 16, 2012
christianity is EVIL wrote:
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you dont know your Jesus very well do ya?
http://nobeliefs.com/jesus.htm
You're going to H-E-L-L after you die...unless you REPENT and trust in the Lord Jesus Christ.
Doctor REALITY

Little Rock, AR

#138127 Nov 16, 2012
christianity is EVIL wrote:
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do tell...,how can you focus on something thats NOT real??
Your soul is the property of the devil,PORTER.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#138128 Nov 16, 2012
BIBLE TRUE JEHOVA wrote:
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most time your posts are posts glorifing yourselves,whoa are you,most words are I I I I
even your avatar picture shows narcizm very deadly and ugly end of horible dissapointment
focus rather on eternal beauty of God,and all doubts and own earthly weak narcizm will dissapear,
and you start to be most beautiful spiritual creation belonging only to God Creator of all beauties and awsome antidimesional Universes with milions spiritual planets turning around in the eternal light of GREAT GOD HA SHEME
only God knows who has a pure heart! don't judge a book by it's cover!!

Also, I'm not a egoistic person and if i came across like that i ask God to forgive me!! I know beauty, money etc... is not forever, only my God is!!!

and the most words i use are we and lol, lol!

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