Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

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#138088 Nov 16, 2012
_BobLoblah_ wrote:
<quoted text>14Nov12.....
.....Do you mean Noah and da Ark!!!
Forever and Ever
BobLoblah
Yes dear, but the hindu story is abit different. When I can remember it, I will tell you about it.:)

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#138089 Nov 16, 2012
Clementia wrote:
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Or it could be that the story had some sort of metaphorical meaning? I don't know, I'm just saying.
Then the bible is not fact.

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#138090 Nov 16, 2012
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Have you never wondered why a creature that spends its entire life in an aquatic environment doesn't have gills? You can deny the evolution of Whales but must face the fact that this may be one of the worst examples of design by your almighty designer. Billions of sea dwelling creatures, all marvelously designed for their environment (they evolved these design over millions of years) yet three species of mammals share the same environment with non of the designs the others have. Dolphins, Porpoises, and Whales all are air breathers. Very poor design for finding food, and giving birth. Newborns drown if the female doesn't get under it in time to bring it to the surface to breath. Sperm whales must hold theta breath to dive almost a mile down for food. It has very little time to hunt once down, very poor design.
You missed to point on the movement through the water. All fish and sharks swim with a side to side motion of the tail, an obviously superior action to move throughout the water, the whale has a vertical shape to its spine much more adapted to running. Watch any land dwelling animal run and you will see EXACTLY the same motion as a whale moving throughout the water. Couple that with the fully formed wrist bones found in the Right Whale, and the vestigial hind legs in most whales, and you have a species that was obviously a prior land mammal.
So if the evolution of whales if untrue, and there is simply way to much information to then contrary, then your Creator God is one terrible designed.
{the whale has a vertical shape to its spine much more adapted to running. Watch any land dwelling animal run and you will see EXACTLY the same motion as a whale moving throughout the water}.

Iím sorry Doctor I donít see any correlation with whales and land animals running. None what so ever. Neither am I aware of any land animals with blow holes.

Again it takes a stretch, I mean a hell of a stretch of the imagination to believe a deer or whatever animal was running near the ocean and then turned into a whale. Hey, itís your life, if you want to believe that, ok, but I just canít. Itís waaaaaaaaaaay too far fetched for me.

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#138091 Nov 16, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>
{the whale has a vertical shape to its spine much more adapted to running. Watch any land dwelling animal run and you will see EXACTLY the same motion as a whale moving throughout the water}.
Iím sorry Doctor I donít see any correlation with whales and land animals running. None what so ever. Neither am I aware of any land animals with blow holes.
Again it takes a stretch, I mean a hell of a stretch of the imagination to believe a deer or whatever animal was running near the ocean and then turned into a whale. Hey, itís your life, if you want to believe that, ok, but I just canít. Itís waaaaaaaaaaay too far fetched for me.
You just don't pay attention to anything, do you? Unless it's in that book of fables, you don't even want to know it exists.

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#138092 Nov 16, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
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Tall tales, eagle?
lllllol! You and eagle are toooo funny!

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Southern Illinois

#138093 Nov 16, 2012
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Have you never wondered why a creature that spends its entire life in an aquatic environment doesn't have gills? You can deny the evolution of Whales but must face the fact that this may be one of the worst examples of design by your almighty designer. Billions of sea dwelling creatures, all marvelously designed for their environment (they evolved these design over millions of years) yet three species of mammals share the same environment with non of the designs the others have. Dolphins, Porpoises, and Whales all are air breathers. Very poor design for finding food, and giving birth. Newborns drown if the female doesn't get under it in time to bring it to the surface to breath. Sperm whales must hold theta breath to dive almost a mile down for food. It has very little time to hunt once down, very poor design.
You missed to point on the movement through the water. All fish and sharks swim with a side to side motion of the tail, an obviously superior action to move throughout the water, the whale has a vertical shape to its spine much more adapted to running. Watch any land dwelling animal run and you will see EXACTLY the same motion as a whale moving throughout the water. Couple that with the fully formed wrist bones found in the Right Whale, and the vestigial hind legs in most whales, and you have a species that was obviously a prior land mammal.
So if the evolution of whales if untrue, and there is simply way to much information to then contrary, then your Creator God is one terrible designed.
{worst examples of design by your almighty designer}.

Here I disagree with you again. I think whales and dolphins are magnificent breathtaking creatures. They are the elite of the ocean creatures.

They tell me our submariners can hear them singing for hundreds of miles in the ocean. I donít know if they are singing the Blues or Country & Western. But theyíre damn sure singing some type of heartache song.

I just hate the thought of countries hunting these magnificently designed intelligent creatures. They have such beauty Doctor. They couldnít have been designed any better. Iím surprised Doctor at your statement and you being a seaman.
Thinking

Dalry, UK

#138094 Nov 16, 2012
The bible is a fact. Without one, my garden table would wobble like a
bastard.
KittenKoder wrote:
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Then the bible is not fact.

“In the beginning God Created..”

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Southern Illinois

#138095 Nov 16, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Then the bible is not fact.
Padon me Miss and you are?

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Southern Illinois

#138096 Nov 16, 2012
Holy cow, I meant Pardon me Miss.

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#138097 Nov 16, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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You just don't pay attention to anything, do you? Unless it's in that book of fables, you don't even want to know it exists.
Genesis 1

King James Version (KJV)


1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

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#138098 Nov 16, 2012
Clementia wrote:
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lllllol! You and eagle are toooo funny!
[tipping hat and bowing]:)

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#138099 Nov 16, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Then the bible is not fact.
Hi Kitten!:)

Is that your opinion? Or are you asking me for mine?

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#138100 Nov 16, 2012
Thinking wrote:
The bible is a fact. Without one, my garden table would wobble like a
bastard.
<quoted text>
Oh hell, you donít say, I use ďThe God DelusionĒ
by Richard Dawkins to steady my table.

But Dawkins book has another function. When we run out of toilet paper, I have to pull it out and rip off two or three pages and use it to wipe my a**. Its a little course but hey, that's atheism for you.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#138101 Nov 16, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>
{worst examples of design by your almighty designer}.
Here I disagree with you again. I think whales and dolphins are magnificent breathtaking creatures. They are the elite of the ocean creatures.
They tell me our submariners can hear them singing for hundreds of miles in the ocean. I donít know if they are singing the Blues or Country & Western. But theyíre damn sure singing some type of heartache song.
I just hate the thought of countries hunting these magnificently designed intelligent creatures. They have such beauty Doctor. They couldnít have been designed any better. Iím surprised Doctor at your statement and you being a seaman.
Sharks.

Sharks are often thought of as the felines of the sea, and rightfully so. Their diversity and capability in the water has made it possible for them to exist without much change over millions of years. They can kill almost anything, if they have the mind to, and even in a feeding frenzy manage to protect their own. They have been known to topple ships, and more myths about them are known to any sea culture. Even the fresh water sharks can take you out.

Let's not forget the giant squid.

Giant squids grow large enough to consume killer whales, those are the really big ones in case you don't know. Yet they maintain the agility of their smaller counterparts. Darting through the water like leaves in the wind.

Oh, but what about the piranha!

Love these buggers, capable of stripping a cow to the bone in minutes. They are ravenous fish, which swim faster than pretty much anything. They feed in packs, strategically stripping their prey by ripping it apart while they eat it, bite by bite. A single piranha is little to no threat, but a pack of them will devour anything.

You don't get out much, do you?

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#138102 Nov 16, 2012
Clementia wrote:
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Hi Kitten!:)
Is that your opinion? Or are you asking me for mine?
Just repeating what you said.

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#138103 Nov 16, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>
Genesis 1
King James Version (KJV)
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
So, then you don't believe in Mars, Jupiter, Venus, Mercury .....

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#138104 Nov 16, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
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[tipping hat and bowing]:)
I'm giving you two a standing ovation!!! you're welcome!:)

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#138105 Nov 16, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Just repeating what you said.
I didn't say that. You're twisting what I said. I'm pH 7!!!!!I can't say anything like that!

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#138106 Nov 16, 2012
Thinking wrote:
The bible is a fact. Without one, my garden table would wobble like a
bastard.
<quoted text>
How can you say that about someone's belief? Surely, the Bible can't be that bad!!!!!
Thinking

Dalry, UK

#138107 Nov 16, 2012
Good on you. Richard still gets your money. He gives loads more in charity than most believers. You couldn't understand his words anyway.
Eagle12 wrote:
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Oh hell, you donít say, I use ďThe God DelusionĒ
by Richard Dawkins to steady my table.
But Dawkins book has another function. When we run out of toilet paper, I have to pull it out and rip off two or three pages and use it to wipe my a**. Its a little course but hey, that's atheism for you.

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