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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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#138146 Nov 16, 2012
Very Cynical Person wrote:
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As I stated “With a lot of religions” not all, but as with all religions it must be contained and monitored to keep it in check.
If one becomes a mindless follower of the flock it can transform into something totally different.
You must think for yourself at all times, and watch for the slow and subtle changes.
No one should become as a god even the god you look for and worship.
what, my God that loves everyone? the God that loves straight people and gays? blacks, whites, browns etc..he loves them all! what u sayin i shouldn't become like that? lol dw i couldn't love paedophiles, i don't care if my God does.

I understand what you're saying, but again most people don't use their brain, so they going to take 1 section of religion and focus on that and become fanatics! I guess some people are just crazy!

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#138147 Nov 16, 2012
Thinking wrote:
But maybe they'd call for disarmament talks regarding our stockpiles of antibiotics.
<quoted text>
Then we'd negotiate with "ok, but you have to do a better job fighting our infections for us."

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#138148 Nov 16, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
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The points made by whomever is merely discredited because they are associated with a different point of view?
It's because he's being dishonest. He's not a cetacean scholar and doesn't base his writing on actual evidence but strange ideas that he has.

That's not science, not even slightly.

“Fortes Fortuna Juvat, ”

Since: Dec 09

Wichita. Ks.

#138149 Nov 16, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> The red light at the intersection tells you what to do. Everybody tells you what to do. If you go to the grocerie store do you think you can do whatever your please without consequences? You can think whatever you want but it is always better if your thoughts conform with reality.
<quoted text> It society it is their way or prison in may cases. It's not like you can cruse down the interstate at 110 mph without other taking notice.
<quoted text> If your post is an example of someone who uses their brain than i am not seeing it. Your analysis is hostile and one sided and indicative of a mind the size of a mustard seed.
It is nice to see that you display the examples I stated to look out for.

You show your hate very well.

Are you one of the blind followers of the flock?

I cannot make you understand, but if you want to show your ignorance then at least you have a chance to learn, now if it is stupidity then you are lost.

The truth of religions history hurts you. I am sorry, but it is true.

With that said religion has done a lot of good as well as bad, but do you not think it should concentrate only on doing good?

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#138150 Nov 16, 2012
christianity is EVIL wrote:
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Imaginary things are just for silly people,
LOL
grow up
u grow down, u weirdo! lol

I can't grow up, coz i'm silly! well, you're the one that said it!

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#138151 Nov 16, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
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{the whale has a vertical shape to its spine much more adapted to running. Watch any land dwelling animal run and you will see EXACTLY the same motion as a whale moving throughout the water}.
I’m sorry Doctor I don’t see any correlation with whales and land animals running. None what so ever. Neither am I aware of any land animals with blow holes.
Again it takes a stretch, I mean a hell of a stretch of the imagination to believe a deer or whatever animal was running near the ocean and then turned into a whale. Hey, it’s your life, if you want to believe that, ok, but I just can’t. It’s waaaaaaaaaaay too far fetched for me.
Wow, it's tough for you, hey?

When you are doing sit ups, what part of your body are you using? The abs.

When swimmers move like this, what do they look like:

From 20-24 seconds:


That's how mammals swim to maximize a streamline shape. That's one clue telling us that whales evolved from mammals.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#138152 Nov 16, 2012
Well don't be too hard on yourself you did outsmart riverside redneck who doesn't know that Catholics are Christians so hey two thumbs up there.:)
Clementia wrote:
<quoted text>
Who are you posing to be? What are you? Atheist or christian?
FYI...I'm abit sloooooooooooow! you have to be frank with me, dear.

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#138153 Nov 16, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
A little course?
Do you really mean that?
heheheheheheheheeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeee OMG!!

Who makes more mistakes, me or eagle?

catcher, who is this 'thinking' poster?

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#138154 Nov 16, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
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Where in the hell did you dig up that crack head, lol.
Uhm...they're just speeding up his speaking and removing some of the words.

“Fortes Fortuna Juvat, ”

Since: Dec 09

Wichita. Ks.

#138155 Nov 16, 2012
Clementia wrote:
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what, my God that loves everyone? the God that loves straight people and gays? blacks, whites, browns etc..he loves them all! what u sayin i shouldn't become like that? lol dw i couldn't love paedophiles, i don't care if my God does.
I understand what you're saying, but again most people don't use their brain, so they going to take 1 section of religion and focus on that and become fanatics! I guess some people are just crazy!
I was not trying to degrade your belief just pointing out reality. From what I have read about your belief system it is as of yet to comment any of the atrocities that most other religions have perpetrated on this world.

Others here of religious belief take any truth in statements as an insult without truly looking at were their religious belief system came from. That is where the blind leading the blind system came from.

I am not trying to change anyones faith but challenge it.
Make them think for themself and not just, what you are told.
Throughout history, man was told what to believe, could not, and was not allowed to even read the text.

Control of man and his faith or belief was and is a powerful tool to control him. If you would go as sheep to slaughter then you are blind and cannot know the truth.

I live my life the way I want to be treated and not the way that others tell me or mandate so that I will be in some heavenly place. That is extortion and terrorism in my view. Reading the whole bible “word of god” has shown me that there cannot be a god, but I do not disallow others beliefs unless that belief becomes overbearing, pushy, and harmful to others and at times all religious beliefs become just that.

Too much harm, unjust, crime, murders, bigotry have been in the name of religion. Too many words in the “good Book” justify the above. Too many follow the words. Too many do not understand where the book came from. Too many believe it came from a god and not men that wrote it. The book took hundreds of years to be written, transcribed and interpreted. That is why the bible cannot be trusted as a source.

Live your life in peace and stay true to yourself.

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#138156 Nov 16, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
Well don't be too hard on yourself you did outsmart riverside redneck who doesn't know that Catholics are Christians so hey two thumbs up there.:)
<quoted text>
OMG! LOL! I missed alot then!

awww thanks, next time i want a smiley face sticker, when i outsmart redneck. I have a feelin it's goin to happen again! LOL, SORRY REDNECK!

r u still calling me a dog, tho?

Since: Jun 12

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#138157 Nov 16, 2012
Very Cynical Person wrote:
You show your hate very well.
As do you. In my case it had more to do with disgust.
Are you one of the blind followers of the flock?
Believe Christ resurrected. What is a blind follower of the flock mean? What does religion tell you to do that you do not want to do?
I cannot make you understand, but if you want to show your ignorance then at least you have a chance to learn, now if it is stupidity then you are lost.
To quote you.''you show your hate very well.''
The truth of religions history hurts you. I am sorry, but it is true.
I don't know how religions history hurts me. Are you a young person?
With that said religion has done a lot of good as well as bad, but do you not think it should concentrate only on doing good?
Yes. But not at the cost of truth telling.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#138158 Nov 16, 2012
Hey I was just giving credit where credit is due. You knew Catholics are Christian and he didn't.:)

:)
:)
:)
XD
;)
:P

How is that for smiley faces?
Clementia wrote:
<quoted text>
OMG! LOL! I missed alot then!
awww thanks, next time i want a smiley face sticker, when i outsmart redneck. I have a feelin it's goin to happen again! LOL, SORRY REDNECK!
r u still calling me a dog, tho?

Since: Oct 12

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#138159 Nov 16, 2012
Very Cynical Person wrote:
<quoted text>
I was not trying to degrade your belief just pointing out reality. From what I have read about your belief system it is as of yet to comment any of the atrocities that most other religions have perpetrated on this world.
Others here of religious belief take any truth in statements as an insult without truly looking at were their religious belief system came from. That is where the blind leading the blind system came from.
I am not trying to change anyones faith but challenge it.
Make them think for themself and not just, what you are told.
Throughout history, man was told what to believe, could not, and was not allowed to even read the text.
Control of man and his faith or belief was and is a powerful tool to control him. If you would go as sheep to slaughter then you are blind and cannot know the truth.
I live my life the way I want to be treated and not the way that others tell me or mandate so that I will be in some heavenly place. That is extortion and terrorism in my view. Reading the whole bible “word of god” has shown me that there cannot be a god, but I do not disallow others beliefs unless that belief becomes overbearing, pushy, and harmful to others and at times all religious beliefs become just that.
Too much harm, unjust, crime, murders, bigotry have been in the name of religion. Too many words in the “good Book” justify the above. Too many follow the words. Too many do not understand where the book came from. Too many believe it came from a god and not men that wrote it. The book took hundreds of years to be written, transcribed and interpreted. That is why the bible cannot be trusted as a source.
Live your life in peace and stay true to yourself.
Sikhi doesn't know everything and it says just that! we r sikhs(learners) and we are here to learn, that's all we know!

I agree. sikhi is against idol worship for lots of logical/ethical reasons, but if you want to worship a stone we not going to stop you, but if that belief is causing pain to others then something has to be done.

If you ever read sikh history, you will know that sikhi was never forced on anybody. All baba nanak said was "look at the world with one eye". Don't discriminate and treat everyone equal.

and we don't believe in hell/heaven or the devil!

the GGS was written by the guru jis themselves.

I agree, live and let live!!!!

Since: Oct 12

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#138160 Nov 16, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
Hey I was just giving credit where credit is due. You knew Catholics are Christian and he didn't.:)
:)
:)
:)
XD
;)
:P
How is that for smiley faces?
<quoted text>
yh i did know that. lol

what do u want? why u being nice? why o why?

did u miss me too much? llllllol

redneck, make more bloody mistakes, I'm enjoying liberty guy being nice to me!!

love the faces, keep em comin!:-)

u better not start picking on me again! that's not a empty threat, i'm kindly requesting that u don't, sir!:)

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#138161 Nov 16, 2012
Clementia wrote:
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Look, I don't like hurting people, ok! I personally don't agree with some things written in the Bible, but I have met nice christians too, so for them i don't want to say nasty things to their religion. If that is what helps them become better people then that is fine with me. I said before that we are responsible for our own actions, we need to stop blaming religion for everything. God gave us a brain, we should use it!!!
Moderate is nothing more than a sugar coating for enabler. Would you allow any other delusional person to remain untreated? Believing in something that is demonstrably reliable, factual, or real is delusion, thus, theists are delusional.
_BobLoblah_

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#138162 Nov 16, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>
I’m a supporter of the oil industry as a whole. But in the real world I also know how failures happen. BP under the leadership of Tony Hayward caused a colossal disaster. He should have an 8 year sentence in federal prison.
Over the years in the Petro-Chemical business I participated in thousands of accident investigations. I also had the dubious honor of working with engineers of all sorts of disciplines.
Some engineers are just down right brilliant. Others are smart asses that you can’t tell them anything. And if you did what they tell you. You would get killed along with a lot of others. Well that’s what happened to BP. Ignorant ass arrogant engineers calling the shots that lead to this conglomerate fiasco of clusterfu*ks.
The fines were too small and the criminal penalties should have gone all the way to the top. A lot of companies talk a good line on safety. But when it comes down to it, money and the love of money caused BP engineers to take shortcuts. You can’t operate a deep water well that’s 18,000’ deep like you would one that 80’ deep.
PBS:
The cement slurry used to seal the well from hydrocarbons was weak and poorly designed.
Workers failed to spot problems in a pressure test.
"Critical components" of the blowout preventer weren't working.
Hydrocarbons passed undetected by the Transocean rig crew, through the blowout preventer and into the riser.
Immediate response was not fast or effective enough.
Three different methods for operating the blowout preventer in an emergency failed to seal the well.
17Nov12.....

.....What you have to say about Oil & Gas engineers and their operating methodologies and happenstances is said in 'generalities' and oftenTimes is taken out of context by people that no hardly anything about the business. To refer to the very small minority as 'smart asses' will be reflected on the industy's finest as a 'Whole'.

Ps:....The smart asses applies to less than 0.5 per cent. This tells me that you have NOT met toooooooo many.

Some 38,000 wells had been drilled with fault in the Gulf up until the Horizon problem, and that's a damn fine record.

By the vey, can you give BobLoblah an example of an 'accident investigation, that you participated in.

.....Just curious. Yellow.

Forever and Ever
BobLoblah
_BobLoblah_

Since: Apr 11

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#138163 Nov 16, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>
I’m a supporter of the oil industry as a whole. But in the real world I also know how failures happen. BP under the leadership of Tony Hayward caused a colossal disaster. He should have an 8 year sentence in federal prison.
Over the years in the Petro-Chemical business I participated in thousands of accident investigations. I also had the dubious honor of working with engineers of all sorts of disciplines.
Some engineers are just down right brilliant. Others are smart asses that you can’t tell them anything. And if you did what they tell you. You would get killed along with a lot of others. Well that’s what happened to BP. Ignorant ass arrogant engineers calling the shots that lead to this conglomerate fiasco of clusterfu*ks.
The fines were too small and the criminal penalties should have gone all the way to the top. A lot of companies talk a good line on safety. But when it comes down to it, money and the love of money caused BP engineers to take shortcuts. You can’t operate a deep water well that’s 18,000’ deep like you would one that 80’ deep.
PBS:
The cement slurry used to seal the well from hydrocarbons was weak and poorly designed.
Workers failed to spot problems in a pressure test.
"Critical components" of the blowout preventer weren't working.
Hydrocarbons passed undetected by the Transocean rig crew, through the blowout preventer and into the riser.
Immediate response was not fast or effective enough.
Three different methods for operating the blowout preventer in an emergency failed to seal the well.
17Nov12.....

.....'without fault'.....

Forever and Ever
BobLoblah

Since: Oct 12

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#138164 Nov 16, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Moderate is nothing more than a sugar coating for enabler. Would you allow any other delusional person to remain untreated? Believing in something that is demonstrably reliable, factual, or real is delusion, thus, theists are delusional.
What is you problem with religious people? What have I done or said to you, that you keep calling me delusional? huh? some atheists are fanatics too, it seems!

ok, kitten and u guys goodnite! it's too late now, i have to get some sleep! sweet dreams guys!!:)
_BobLoblah_

Since: Apr 11

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#138165 Nov 16, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh hell, you don’t say, I use “The God Delusion”
by Richard Dawkins to steady my table.
But Dawkins book has another function. When we run out of toilet paper, I have to pull it out and rip off two or three pages and use it to wipe my a**. Its a little course but hey, that's atheism for you.
17Nov12.....

.....BobLoblah states that this is the Joke of November 2012.

Ps:....and da joke is on you 'dinKing', ya eeejit. As the man says 'that's atheism for you'.

Forever and Ever
BobLoblah

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