Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#137900 Nov 15, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Why are they up my alley?
I really have to explain that to you?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#137901 Nov 15, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>You're disgusting.
Truth hurts, eh?

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#137902 Nov 15, 2012
Adam wrote:
Some thoughts on why Christians try to justify the existence of the mythical Adam & Eve. I wasted a lot of time on this stuff when I was a deluded Christian.
The theology of Christianity is based largely on the writings of Paul. Paul writes in his letters that Jesus is the second Adam. The first Adam is a sinful man and the second Adam the perfect man. The silly story of the talking snake is actually the basis for christianity. They need to accept that we are all sinfull POS because of the actions of Adam and Eve in the garden of eden in eating an apple off a magical tree, because God told them not to.
The fall of man is the foundation for the whole myth. Cause the fall is the reason given for the need for a redeemer i.e. Jesus. Without an Adam and Eve, there is no fall of man, without the fall of man, there is no need for redemption. No Adam, no fall of man, no redeemer.
So catholic and mainstream churches have abandoned the 6 day creation in light of the overwhelming evidence of an old earth, and evidence of evolution. But they still cling to the mythical fall of man. Knowing that without a talking snake and first man, and rib woman, the house of cards falls down. Hence our resident fundies will sometimes accept evolution, but never back down over mythical first man and woman.
All numbers are synonymous with the number one. Without the number one there can not be a number two or three. To believe there is no first in life is a lack of understanding. Yet you refuse to believe there was the first man. IncredibleÖÖ..

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#137903 Nov 15, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Let me qualify that. Sometimes I am skeptical of their work, but not of their intentions.
Unfortunately, sometimes you have to be skeptical of their intentions, too.

Some are desperate for fame and glory.

That's why there is extensive peer review.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#137904 Nov 15, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>For the timn record, evolution does not upset me. Not in the slightest.

What gets me going is the assumptive nature of evolution. The theories & hypotheses & guesses that go hand oin hand with it. Just like the post from blacklagoon where he says we "know" how the nostril evolved in whales...

I don't think evolution happened the way we think it did. There's just too many pieces of the puzzle that are missing to fully know.
How many pieces have you seen?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#137905 Nov 15, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Eh?

Are you OK, Chris? Your posts this morning have been eratic.
What's YOUR excuse?

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#137906 Nov 15, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>You're such a dufus.

So are the people praying for rain. Prayer doesn't work that way.

I've made this point clear before, you obviously cherry pick what you read.
So what way DOES it work?

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#137907 Nov 15, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
Setting aside your religious belief...
That's funny.
Good one.
Was not there a first airplane and the first pilot?

The first automobile?

The first bicycle?

The first red rose?

In your case to bringing it closer to home, the first as*h*le.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#137908 Nov 15, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>ANd of course you think that science & religion are enemies, so....
They are, and will remain so as long as people like you, who know nothing of science, keep using your religious claptrap to refute it.

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#137909 Nov 15, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
I find it difficult to believe there were no 1st in life. For example the very first oak tree, fig tree, bird, fish, jellyfish. The first chimp, giraffe, and the very first human.
All numbers no matter how great or small are synonymous with the number one. This must be true in biology and in mathematics. Without the first there can be no seconds, thirds, or fourths.
Let's test your argument, then.

Who was the first speaker of Modern English? And who did they talk to?

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#137910 Nov 15, 2012

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#137911 Nov 15, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
I really have to explain that to you?
Yes. The flat earthers? Really?

“Ditat Deus”

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Location hidden

#137912 Nov 15, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
How many pieces have you seen?
How many are there?

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#137913 Nov 15, 2012
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>A whale is a good example of Macro-evolution. Tracing the development of the nostrils through fossil records and skulls, we can follow the gradual movement of the nostril from the front of the nose to the top of the head, the whales blowhole. Consider the vestigial hind legs, the fully formed wrist parts on the Right Whale. The fact that a whales gives birth under the water as a land mammal does. In fact the mother must move under the newborn quickly to bring it to the surface before it drowns. We also see evidence that the whale was once a land mammal by the way it moves through the water. Fish swim with a side to side mouthing, whales, as well as dolphins and porpoises, move through the water with an up and down flexing of the spine as you would see in a running land mammal.
Thatís one whale of a tale.

Iím sorry Doctor, I simply can not believe in tall tales of whales. Like I said, I just donít have the faith that you do to believe in such grand imaginations on the scale of a childrenís fantasy.

Theyíre mammals no doubt but many land creatures arenít mammals. So both land and sea contain mammals and non mammals. What it comes down to Doctor you have a greater faith.

On a more personal note Doctor, were you parents believers of Christ. Please take a minute and tell me about your Mom and Dad.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#137914 Nov 15, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
Setting aside your religious belief...
That's funny.
Good one.
Since your claim to fame is being a pilot.

Who was the first person to die in an airplane in world history?

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#137915 Nov 15, 2012
Drew Smith wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's test your argument, then.
Who was the first speaker of Modern English? And who did they talk to?
Mr English, to his wife Mrs. English.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#137916 Nov 15, 2012
I got to go for now and help the granddaughter do a science project, lol.

She is working on evolution, lol.

And itís a subway salad for supper tonight!

Yea!!! Love everyone of you. See ya.

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#137917 Nov 15, 2012
Let's test your argument, then.
Who was the first speaker of Modern English? And who did they talk to?
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>
Mr English, to his wife Mrs. English.
Thanks for admitting that your "first" argument is a bogus one.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#137918 Nov 15, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
He probably meant Judaism. It's pretty unlikely he meant Sumerian mythos, though it's possible, since he uses the word "ancient."
:)
:p
:)
Like the avatar...

;-D
Serah

Australia

#137919 Nov 15, 2012
_BobLoblah_ wrote:
<quoted text>16Nov12.....
......Right.
Ps:....and for those hateful, hypocritical, hAtheists who keep insisting that 'ol Hitler was a Christian, bullschidt. Hitler was an hAtheist..just like them. So was Stalin, Pol Pot, Napoleon, Genghis Khan, and the other whole 9 yards that have murdered more people than the Bible can shake a stick at.
Forever and Ever
BobLoblah
Exactly - I cannot know how many times Hitler is tossed our way ..... but we can just toss him right back :)

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