Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

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#137875 Nov 15, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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There is plenty of debating that "fact". Not just from people like me, either. Evolutionists argue & disprove each other all the time.
No, there is not. There is debate as to how exactly it happened, but there is no debate that it happened. Do you understand the distinction? The *theory* of evolution explains the *fact* of evolution.

And WTF is an evolutionist? Are they like gravityers?

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#137876 Nov 15, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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No, it doesn't. I'm just showing you that the "study" of prayer is inconclusive.
It is, insofar as any study of anything is inconclusive, because you can always say "well, maybe sometime in the future we might find something new." But as far as the studies themselves go, they were conclusive. Either god turned off prayer during those studies, or prayer doesn't work. The methodology was sound - read about it.

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#137877 Nov 15, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
So his one working link says Prayer failed.
Nice :)
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Yeah. I thought it was pretty awesome.
Thinking

Dalry, UK

#137878 Nov 15, 2012
What examples of this are you most familiar with?
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Evolutionists argue & disprove each other all the time.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#137879 Nov 15, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Eh?
Are you OK, Chris? Your posts this morning have been eratic.
It was you that made the statement “Only the ignorant fool prays for material possessions.”

Have you ever seen an atheist pray?

I was assuming you were referring to christians. Could have been one of the other religions but considering it was you making the statement I realised you are not up to commenting on other religions

Since: Mar 11

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#137880 Nov 15, 2012
I have a feeling this picture hits him a little too close to home.

http://www.justsaypictures.com/epic-fail-81.h...
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah. I thought it was pretty awesome.

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#137881 Nov 15, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>No, there is not. There is debate as to how exactly it happened, but there is no debate that it happened. Do you understand the distinction? The *theory* of evolution explains the *fact* of evolution.
And WTF is an evolutionist? Are they like gravityers?
Must I do ALL your homework for you?

ev·o·lu·tion·ist
/&#716;ev&#601;&#7 12;lo&#862;oSH&#601;ni st/
Noun
A person who believes in the theories of evolution and natural selection.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#137882 Nov 15, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Here's a site right up your...er...alley.

http://theflatearthsociety.org/cms/

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#137883 Nov 15, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>It is, insofar as any study of anything is inconclusive, because you can always say "well, maybe sometime in the future we might find something new." But as far as the studies themselves go, they were conclusive. Either god turned off prayer during those studies, or prayer doesn't work. The methodology was sound - read about it.
*OR*

The method of testing was wrong.

After all, the supernatural is NOT in the realm of science...

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#137884 Nov 15, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
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It was you that made the statement “Only the ignorant fool prays for material possessions.”
Have you ever seen an atheist pray?
I was assuming you were referring to christians. Could have been one of the other religions but considering it was you making the statement I realised you are not up to commenting on other religions
In time of need I have seen atheist say "Oh, God, please don't let this happen."

It's their ignorant version of prayer.

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#137885 Nov 15, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
So his one working link says Prayer failed.
Nice :)
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Have you anything worthy to add or are you just the shit talker troll?

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#137886 Nov 15, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
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Here's a site right up your...er...alley.
http://theflatearthsociety.org/cms/
Why are they up my alley?
Thinking

Dalry, UK

#137887 Nov 15, 2012
And your priests say "jesus christ" when they climax over choirboys.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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In time of need I have seen atheist say "Oh, God, please don't let this happen."
It's their ignorant version of prayer.

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#137888 Nov 15, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Must I do ALL your homework for you?
ev·o·lu·tion·ist
/&#716;ev&#601;&#7 12;lo&#862;oSH&#601;ni st/
Noun
A person who believes in the theories of evolution and natural selection.
I know what the word means... I was pointing out that it is a stupid term, because it implies the same level of belief and dedication found in religion. Which, as we all should know, is nonsense. It also implies that because there are some people who "believe" in the theory, that there must be scientists who don't, and that it is reasonable to object to it. As I said, it would be just as dumb as labeling someone a "gravitologist."

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#137889 Nov 15, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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In time of need I have seen atheist say "Oh, God, please don't let this happen."
It's their ignorant version of prayer.
It's indicative of how much your belief system has permeated our society.

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#137890 Nov 15, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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*OR*
The method of testing was wrong.
After all, the supernatural is NOT in the realm of science...
It's not until it makes a positive claim - the power of prayer is a positive claim. And it was found to be lacking.

Check out the methodology yourself instead of dismissing it out of hand.

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#137891 Nov 15, 2012
Thinking wrote:
And your priests say "jesus christ" when they climax over choirboys.
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You're disgusting.

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#137892 Nov 15, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>I know what the word means... I was pointing out that it is a stupid term, because it implies the same level of belief and dedication found in religion. Which, as we all should know, is nonsense. It also implies that because there are some people who "believe" in the theory, that there must be scientists who don't, and that it is reasonable to object to it. As I said, it would be just as dumb as labeling someone a "gravitologist."
I'm not suggesting that you believe in a scientific theory. That'd be stupid. I'm saying that you believe everything you're told in regards to evolution, of which is part scientific theory and part scientific guesswork.

There's no evidence that says ALL life on earth evolved from a single cell organsim. THAT'S the bullshit about that particular theory.

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#137893 Nov 15, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I'm not suggesting that you believe in a scientific theory. That'd be stupid. I'm saying that you believe everything you're told in regards to evolution, of which is part scientific theory and part scientific guesswork.
There's no evidence that says ALL life on earth evolved from a single cell organsim. THAT'S the bullshit about that particular theory.
No, I don't "believe everything I'm told," but I am not overly skeptical when it comes to trustworthy scientific institutions. They have no reason to deceive me.

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#137894 Nov 15, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>No, I don't "believe everything I'm told," but I am not overly skeptical when it comes to trustworthy scientific institutions. They have no reason to deceive me.
Let me qualify that. Sometimes I am skeptical of their work, but not of their intentions.

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