Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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<quoted text>16Nov12.....
.....BobLoblah does Not and Never have taken any drugs of any kind.
Ps:.....Except for one time while working in da '70s in the far Northern regions of the former USSR and BobLoblah became constipated. On visiting the doctor, the doctor gave BobLoblah some suppositories, but when BobLoblah got home BobLoblah could Not figure out how to use them having never seen, nor heard of them before.
....and so Bobloblah ate them.
....and Nothing happened.
..BobLoblah returned to the doctor and when da doctor asked BobLoblah how were things going 'down below'...BobLoblah replied:
'Doc, it would have been better if BobLoblah had shoved these things up BobLoblah's arse'.
Needless to say, dat doctor is still reeling.
...and so are you tooooooooooooo.
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Dave Nelson wrote:
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"Another Canadian patient, Steven Graham, was able to demonstrate that he had laid down new memories since his brain injury. Mr Graham answers yes when asked whether his sister has a daughter. His niece was born after his car accident five years ago."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-20268044
Most intriguing, eh?
Did they tell him that on a hospital visit? I wonder how long after his accident the birth occurred.
Very weird. I would assume they told him during a visit (I would hope so. Psychic ability gained during a coma is too Stephen King-ish for my liking)

I would assume times seems to be at a standstill for the patient.

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Nov 15, 2012
 
Serah wrote:
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Evolution is adaption ~ extinction is failure to adapt.
That's one component of evolution, sure. Adaptation is the mechanism of problem solving produced by natural selection.

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Dave Nelson wrote:
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Could that fusing be the result of gene splicing, or did someone stand too close to the microwave?
How was the bond made? Not the technique, but the molecular linkage? Anything removed to bond them? Which chemicals bonded at the ends?
It was a copying error. One enzyme cut it up, one didn't move it out of the cell fast enough, another stitched it back together incorrectly.

I don't know the specifics of the molecules involved. It's telomere DNA to non-telomere DNA bonded together. A telomere is just DNA that is repeating in a certain pattern. So it ends up being DNA-DNA bonds, like any other part of the DNA only recognizable as telomere rather than coding or noncoding sequences. That makes it one of G A T C attached to its opposite pair, just like in all DNA.

Sadly, no microwaves at that time, but my chromosomes just fused because of this damned computer.

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_BobLoblah_ wrote:
<quoted text>16Nov12.....
.....BobLoblah does Not and Never have taken any drugs of any kind.
Ps:.....Except for one time while working in da '70s in the far Northern regions of the former USSR and BobLoblah became constipated. On visiting the doctor, the doctor gave BobLoblah some suppositories, but when BobLoblah got home BobLoblah could Not figure out how to use them having never seen, nor heard of them before.
....and so Bobloblah ate them.
....and Nothing happened.
..BobLoblah returned to the doctor and when da doctor asked BobLoblah how were things going 'down below'...BobLoblah replied:
'Doc, it would have been better if BobLoblah had shoved these things up BobLoblah's arse'.
Needless to say, dat doctor is still reeling.
...and so are you tooooooooooooo.
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You ate suppositories?!?

hahahaha, nice!

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Double Fine wrote:
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Very weird. I would assume they told him during a visit (I would hope so. Psychic ability gained during a coma is too Stephen King-ish for my liking)
I would assume times seems to be at a standstill for the patient.
They just misunderstood that his brain was still capable of receiving input from hearing. It turns out our brains can regrow cells - no one thought that 20 years ago, but stem cells are constantly regenerated in the brain in various locations.

Don't tell Dave.

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Hidingfromyou wrote:
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You ate suppositories?!?
hahahaha, nice!
Perhaps it explains his verbal diarrhoea
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bob nobgobbler swallows anything- his belief system for starters.
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You ate suppositories?!?
hahahaha, nice!
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_BobLoblah_ wrote:
<quoted text>16Nov12.....
.....any friend of 'sidingDumbPhew' like you 'glackBagoon' is an enemy of BobLoblah.
Ps:.....BobLoblah believes dat ven it comes to you, dere's more brains in a bottle of wadda.
...and den sum tooooooooooooooooo.
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At what point are you going to try the English accent? It would certainly make you sound less juvenile!!! Poor little Bobby, he can't get any attention any other way, so he tries to draw attention to himself wit a fake accent, ha ha ha ha, what a dipshit!!!

BTW, either engage me in adult conversation or pissoff, your choice!!!!!

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Eagle12 wrote:
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Microevolution, Iím completely sold on Doctor. So all those articles on microbiology I have no problem believing. I would venture to say out of that 135,000 articles, most were probably about microbiology.
How many scientist are working directly on macro evolution? I would estimate that number to be very small compared to microevolution.
When I talk about speculation Doctor Iím always referring to macroevolution. This discussion about chromosome #2 is very interesting. When the chromosome fused that was the first mankind. With all 46 chromosomes just like we have today.
What I take from the chromosome #2 discussion is mankind came on the scene suddenly and not gradually as traditionally thought. This means there was a first man. That man Doctor was Adam.
It's very apparent that you really know nothing about the process of human evolution. I find that unbelievable sad!!!

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Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Should I start with the alphabet song and just work my way up?
No, just keep putting up god pics :)
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bob "the nonce" nobgobbler doesn't like being ignored. He'll no doubt compose yet another list of posters he hates and spam the arse out of it. A veritable oxygen thief, no less.
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>At what point are you going to try the English accent? It would certainly make you sound less juvenile!!! Poor little Bobby, he can't get any attention any other way, so he tries to draw attention to himself wit a fake accent, ha ha ha ha, what a dipshit!!!
BTW, either engage me in adult conversation or pissoff, your choice!!!!!

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timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>The basic consensus is (I think) that our decisions are made "for us" by our brain - then after the fact it appears to have been a conscious decision. "We" may still retain veto power over these decisions that arise from the unconscious.
There have been a couple interesting studies on this. Here's a summary of one:
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news...
"Also, the predictions were not completely accurate. Maybe free will enters at the last moment, allowing a person to override an unpalatable subconscious decision."

"We can't rule out that there's a free will that kicks in at this late point," said Haynes, who intends to study this phenomenon next. "But I don't think it's plausible."

Maybe this, maybe that.... Maybe we'll just add a few zeros to the end....

C'mon.

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Nov 15, 2012
 
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Who does that? If someone were to go around at work insulting people's religious beliefs, he/she should be fired too. However, I don't think there would be anything wrong with discussing a scientific theory. People shouldn't be so touchy about it. Does gravity upset you?
Why would gravity upset me?

What does that have to do with religion?

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KittenKoder wrote:
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No, I have actually seen the reports, the complete ones, not the cherry picked ones. It has never demonstrated any amount of success beyond that of chance. You're just as well off tossing the dice or wishing.
Perfect example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Days_of_Prayer_f...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42705038/ns/weath...
Guess when it did finally rain, during the atheist convention, long after the prayers. I like this example because if prayer works, then your god clearly prefers the company of atheists.
You're such a dufus.

So are the people praying for rain. Prayer doesn't work that way.

I've made this point clear before, you obviously cherry pick what you read.
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Eagle12 wrote:
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Microevolution, Iím completely sold on Doctor. So all those articles on microbiology I have no problem believing. I would venture to say out of that 135,000 articles, most were probably about microbiology.
How many scientist are working directly on macro evolution? I would estimate that number to be very small compared to microevolution.
When I talk about speculation Doctor Iím always referring to macroevolution. This discussion about chromosome #2 is very interesting. When the chromosome fused that was the first mankind. With all 46 chromosomes just like we have today.
What I take from the chromosome #2 discussion is mankind came on the scene suddenly and not gradually as traditionally thought. This means there was a first man. That man Doctor was Adam.
A whale is a good example of Macro-evolution. Tracing the development of the nostrils through fossil records and skulls, we can follow the gradual movement of the nostril from the front of the nose to the top of the head, the whales blowhole. Consider the vestigial hind legs, the fully formed wrist parts on the Right Whale. The fact that a whales gives birth under the water as a land mammal does. In fact the mother must move under the newborn quickly to bring it to the surface before it drowns. We also see evidence that the whale was once a land mammal by the way it moves through the water. Fish swim with a side to side mouthing, whales, as well as dolphins and porpoises, move through the water with an up and down flexing of the spine as you would see in a running land mammal.

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KittenKoder wrote:
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When you work in a scientific field, you have to talk about science anyway, that's just part of the job.
ANd of course you think that science & religion are enemies, so....

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Tide with Beach wrote:
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There never was a free will!
Of course the free will thing is not real!

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Nov 15, 2012
 
scaritual wrote:
RiversideRedneck wrote: And Christianity & Catholicism are variations of an ancient religion. They are different.
Similar, yes. But still different. There's a lot if beliefs & traditions that Catholics do that Christians don't.
scaritual wrote: You mean Judaism?
LULZ>...
<quoted text> I know it's hard for you to comprehend. No need to get angry.
You mentioned: "Christianity & Catholicism are variations of an ancient religion"
Just what "ancient religion" were you talking about?
Sorry about the brick thing...

Judaism...

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