Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Ditat Deus”

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#137644 Nov 14, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
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Examples of what?
Examples of something you don't have free will in.

“Why does my ignorance”

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#137645 Nov 14, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
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Evolution is a, he said, she said, we think, possibly could have science or so called science. There is a mountain full of evidence (imaginary).
I can see the correlation of evolution and the children’s book,
That's because you're uneducated about biological science, apparently cannot learn so well, quite clearly do not want to learn how biology really works, and have delusions of grandeur in believing you have something interesting to say about evolution.

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#137646 Nov 14, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>There was no technology used in the test, it was a study of complications after heart surgery. The methodology was sound, and they had a large sample size. Look it up yourself if you want, it's all over the internet.
Also, don't you think that way of thinking is a problem? You absolutely will not even consider any evidence that conflicts with your beliefs. That's not good.
'round and 'round we go.....

“Why does my ignorance”

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#137647 Nov 14, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Good lord. Ok. This is going no where. The tests were no inconclusive. The results were very clear, the methodology was sound - therefore the only way to explain the results without discounting the power of prayer is to invoke a trickster god. Is your god a trickster?
Da tests we no inconcrusive!

no inconcrusive!

No!

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#137648 Nov 14, 2012
scaritual wrote:
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I think you're having difficulty in understanding that, although they are different in practice, they are still versions of Christianity.
"Worldwide, the three largest groups of Christianity are the Roman Catholic Church, the Eastern Orthodox Church, and the various denominations of Protestantism.
The Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox patriarchates split from one another in the East–West Schism of 1054 AD, and Protestantism came into existence during the Protestant Reformation of the 16th century, splitting from the Roman Catholic Church." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity
Versions of Christianity.
ugh to the nth degree....

Would you consider a cheeseburger & a hamburger the same thing?

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#137649 Nov 14, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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No.
Yes, evolution is a belief system, too. Well...not a whole system by itself, but one that pertains specifically to biological phenomena. Some social scientists try to stretch it waaaaaaaaaaaaay beyond its parameters, though. So, in the sense that it is misused, it becomes akin to an ideology.
Evolution is the framework theory for all biological sciences. Biological sciences are one way of understanding biological phenomena - through the scientific paradigm, as it is envisioned in Western science (in Western nations). Because it rests on disproving hypotheses and not proving them, and often deals with non-directly observable phenomena, and because it is understood through the social (learning involves being taught, disseminating data involves all kinds of social conventions, etc), it is a cultural way of understanding biological phenomena.
There are other ways to understand such phenomena; other cultures do "biology" differently.
You had 16 too many big words in there. That's beyond your allowed big word usage.

“Why does my ignorance”

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#137650 Nov 14, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
The theory of evolution is like clothes made of invisible fabric. Just get all dressed up in those invisible clothes and take a stroll.
Eagle...Eagle...<shakes head>...you're the high priest of delusional proclamations. The king of ignorance about evolution. The godly godfather of willful stupidity.

Questions:

1. Why do you persist in making yourself out to be the above?

2. Why don't you actually learn about how evolution works so you can produce useful comments on the subject?

3. Failing 2, produce an academic paper that supports your absurd position.

(well, you won't be able to do #3...but I might as well goad you on)

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#137651 Nov 14, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Da tests we no inconcrusive!
no inconcrusive!
No!
I crearry tord him that. He didn't risten.

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#137652 Nov 14, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Hey! What do you mean "anthropologist sites"???
Huh?

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#137653 Nov 14, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Ha! Ninja'd!
Yep, you ninja'd me good there. I didn't even see it coming - the mark of a master ninja.

“Why does my ignorance”

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#137654 Nov 14, 2012
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Education is the key here. Educating yourself on the FACTS of evolution will help you better understand how the process works. Could it be that you are misinformed about what constitutes evolution. Please don't tell me you belong to that camp of nutbags that hold to the belief that millions of scientists are part of a conspiracy to provide false information to the masses. I'll be very disappointed if thats the case. Do you really believe that hundreds of thousands of biologists, and evolutionary scientists could be so wrong about the process of evolution? You do know that evolution is present in todays medical science. That mainstream science accepts evolution as factual, and you do not, may have a lot to say for the religious blinding that has afflicted you. Its always very sad to see.
I've tried to explain it to him in very, very simple terms. He either is incapable of learning or doesn't want to.

For example, he reposts stuff about "living fossils" every now and again. As in "why are horseshoe crabs still around???" Then I explain to him how the "species concept" works and how he's not invoking it at all.

Then he screams and cries out "why don't chimpanzees drive???" And I explain the concept of "niche" and "adaptive peak" but...but...I might as well be teaching a crocodile to sing.

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#137655 Nov 14, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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And his signature!
<trembles>
I have a pretty elaborate picture in my mind of Dave's life. I recently found out he takes care of stray cats - this was very good fodder for my fantasies. I'm pretty ashamed of myself.

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#137656 Nov 14, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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'round and 'round we go.....
I know. We can drop it, as long as you accept my conviction that voodoo works because one day I smacked around a George Bush doll and the next day he choked on a pretzel. Deal?

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#137657 Nov 14, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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I've tried to explain it to him in very, very simple terms. He either is incapable of learning or doesn't want to.
For example, he reposts stuff about "living fossils" every now and again. As in "why are horseshoe crabs still around???" Then I explain to him how the "species concept" works and how he's not invoking it at all.
Then he screams and cries out "why don't chimpanzees drive???" And I explain the concept of "niche" and "adaptive peak" but...but...I might as well be teaching a crocodile to sing.
I love it when he talks about horseshoe crabs.

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#137658 Nov 14, 2012
Still making a complete jackass out of yourself I see. LMFAO!

This reject doesn't know that catholics are christian :))

Wow loser even the theists are cringing at your stupidity!
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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ugh to the nth degree....
Would you consider a cheeseburger & a hamburger the same thing?

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#137659 Nov 14, 2012


Dave's world.
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>I have a pretty elaborate picture in my mind of Dave's life. I recently found out he takes care of stray cats - this was very good fodder for my fantasies. I'm pretty ashamed of myself.

“The eye has it...”

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#137660 Nov 14, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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ugh to the nth degree....
Would you consider a cheeseburger & a hamburger the same thing?
Variations on the sandwich, yes I would.

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#137661 Nov 14, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I crearry tord him that. He didn't risten.
That's not...

Ah nvm..

“Why does my ignorance”

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#137662 Nov 14, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
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I have and what I see is a bunch of smoke being blown up a peoples a**.
It’s going to take more than hype to convince me. A lot of scientist don’t believe it either but in order to keep their jobs they have to accept it. This is what I mean when I say evolution has an enforcement arm.
If you are a scientist and you come out publicly that you don’t believe in macro evolution. You’re suddenly unemployed. But if a scientist questions some theory in physics, that’s ok. Just as long as he doesn’t question evolution.
This is why I love Hans Christian Andersons book. It brings to light the scam that has been pulled on the general public.
No, Mr. Eagle's paranoia, that's not how it works. All us academics are 100% familiar with the Christian Anderson reference - we use it in the titles for our research papers sometimes.

You are incapable of being a critical thinker. I don't know why, but you are. You're incapable of applying critical thinking to your religion, your own beliefs and the stupidity that you have been taught as creationism.

Creationism is hollow. It's worthless garbage - it cannot produce new knowledge and technology. But you fail, utterly and completely, to comprehend that. Creationism is literally "the emperor has no clothes." It teaches you a whole bunch of nothing that jives with your religious beliefs and so you like it - and so you are unable to critique it.

A tenured biological scientist can stop producing research and proclaim his/her creationism. You could not get fired for that - that's what tenure is for. To protect scientists and academics from dangerous ideas.

I've told you this before. You never listen when I write to you but instead condescendingly write back "hug" so you can dodge thinking. After all, Michael Behe came out as an Intelligent Design advocate, and has since not done biological science, and is not fired. He can't be. He just remains an embarrassment to the department.

Evolution is the only theory that unifies all biological phenomena, provides predictions about how to test biological phenomena, leads to new research, knowledge production and new technology.

There are no competing theoretical frameworks - the vast majority of biological scientists understand that. The evidence only supports evolution.

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#137663 Nov 14, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>I know. We can drop it, as long as you accept my conviction that voodoo works because one day I smacked around a George Bush doll and the next day he choked on a pretzel. Deal?
Sure. As long as you can accept that God answers my prayers.

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