Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahah a! What an idiot! No seriously reject you really are dumber than the average Christhole posts on here!

Wow! Lulz wow!
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Christians don't go to Catholic churches...
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As you said, Christians don't go to a Catholic Church!

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahah a! Idiot! Brain dead reject! Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahah a!
Pffffftttt bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahah a!

Oh wow you just made Dave and Buck look smarter by comparison and that takes effort! Rotflmfao!
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No. We view our religions very differently.
Is that hard for you wee athitard brain to comprehend?

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Nov 14, 2012
 
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>You say some stupid things. Several people including myself have shown you scientific evidence that prayer doesn't work, and have explained to you why personal revelation means nothing, and you are just sitting there with your fingers plugged in your ears.
No I'm not. Prayer does work. I've experienced it working first hand! So whatever "tests" you've offered up, they're obviusly inconclusive.

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timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>No, it's not. There is no controversy about whether or not evolution happened. At all. Can you find proof that there is from a reliable source, or can you only find these assertions on apologist sites?
The only controversy on evolution is how it happened, the timeline. I think we're still learning about it & have a long to go.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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The only controversy on evolution is how it happened, the timeline. I think we're still learning about it & have a long to go.
Which is what science is. It's an ongoing investigation. Tomorrows discoveries can change everything. Religion simply can't grasp that concept.

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scaritual wrote:
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Each time you quote the bible, you are quoting the evilbible.
See?
Clever, this one.

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timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>No, it's not. There is no controversy about whether or not evolution happened. At all. Can you find proof that there is from a reliable source, or can you only find these assertions on apologist sites?
Evolution is a, he said, she said, we think, possibly could have science or so called science. There is a mountain full of evidence (imaginary).

I can see the correlation of evolution and the childrenís book,

The Emperors New Clothes, by Hans Christian Anderson.

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A vain Emperor who cares for nothing but his appearance and attire hires two tailors who are really swindlers that promise him the finest, best suit of clothes from a fabric invisible to anyone who is unfit for his position or "just hopelessly stupid". The Emperor cannot see the cloth himself, but pretends that he can for fear of appearing unfit for his position; his ministers do the same.

When the swindlers report that the suit is finished, they mime dressing him and the Emperor then marches in procession before his subjects, who play along with the pretense. Suddenly, a child in the crowd, too young to understand the desirability of keeping up the pretense, blurts out that the Emperor is wearing nothing at all and the cry is taken up by others.

The Emperor cringes, suspecting the assertion is true, but holds himself up proudly and continues the procession, deciding never to be so vain again and to take his position more seriously.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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The only controversy on evolution is how it happened, the timeline. I think we're still learning about it & have a long to go.
Ok? You made it seem as if the actual process of evolution was in question. Our knowledge of any past event can never be perfect.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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No I'm not. Prayer does work. I've experienced it working first hand! So whatever "tests" you've offered up, they're obviusly inconclusive.
Good lord. Ok. This is going no where. The tests were no inconclusive. The results were very clear, the methodology was sound - therefore the only way to explain the results without discounting the power of prayer is to invoke a trickster god. Is your god a trickster?

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Says the reject who doesn't know that Catholics are Christian!

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahah a!
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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No I'm not. Prayer does work. I've experienced it working first hand! So whatever "tests" you've offered up, they're obviusly inconclusive.

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Eagle12 wrote:
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Evolution is a, he said, she said, we think, possibly could have science or so called science. There is a mountain full of evidence (imaginary).
I can see the correlation of evolution and the childrenís book,
The Emperors New Clothes, by Hans Christian Anderson.
From Wiki:
A vain Emperor who cares for nothing but his appearance and attire hires two tailors who are really swindlers that promise him the finest, best suit of clothes from a fabric invisible to anyone who is unfit for his position or "just hopelessly stupid". The Emperor cannot see the cloth himself, but pretends that he can for fear of appearing unfit for his position; his ministers do the same.
When the swindlers report that the suit is finished, they mime dressing him and the Emperor then marches in procession before his subjects, who play along with the pretense. Suddenly, a child in the crowd, too young to understand the desirability of keeping up the pretense, blurts out that the Emperor is wearing nothing at all and the cry is taken up by others.
The Emperor cringes, suspecting the assertion is true, but holds himself up proudly and continues the procession, deciding never to be so vain again and to take his position more seriously.
How many times are you going to post a summary of that book? You do know that the phrase has entered everyday language and that you can say "the emperor has no clothes" and people will know what you mean, right?

Also, if you would care to educate yourself on evolution, you would see that your analogy makes no sense whatsoever.

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The theory of evolution is like clothes made of invisible fabric. Just get all dressed up in those invisible clothes and take a stroll.
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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Free will. That's how.
Don't be silly, there is no such thing as "free will" it's an illusion. Your God, or so you say, is all knowing, all powerful, there is nothing this god doesn't know including the future. He knows exactly what choices you are going to make, you have no choice but to choose the pathway God has set for you. Do you think you could choose a different path than the one God has preordained for you? Or don't you think God knows what path you are going to take? If what you say is true about your God thing, then "free will" is simply an illusion.

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Nov 14, 2012
 
Eagle12 wrote:
The theory of evolution is like clothes made of invisible fabric. Just get all dressed up in those invisible clothes and take a stroll.
To be honest, what you describe sounds much more like theism.

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Eagle12 wrote:
The theory of evolution is like clothes made of invisible fabric. Just get all dressed up in those invisible clothes and take a stroll.
What does your god wear?

Perhaps his long beard hides his private parts?
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Eagle12 wrote:
The theory of evolution is like clothes made of invisible fabric. Just get all dressed up in those invisible clothes and take a stroll.
Education is the key here. Educating yourself on the FACTS of evolution will help you better understand how the process works. Could it be that you are misinformed about what constitutes evolution. Please don't tell me you belong to that camp of nutbags that hold to the belief that millions of scientists are part of a conspiracy to provide false information to the masses. I'll be very disappointed if thats the case. Do you really believe that hundreds of thousands of biologists, and evolutionary scientists could be so wrong about the process of evolution? You do know that evolution is present in todays medical science. That mainstream science accepts evolution as factual, and you do not, may have a lot to say for the religious blinding that has afflicted you. Its always very sad to see.

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Sambrotherofnephi wrote:
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What constitutes as "demonstrably reliable evidence"? I find it fascinating to observe how people can couch their language in a way to make things more complicated than they really are. The real test of the ability to articulate one's beliefs is how simple they can be explained. Anyone can make something simple into something complicated. Like this:
I would like to give my example stated in paragraph 1 of this reply as both a demonstration of the complexities that can be found in the semantics and diction of the English language AND as an unqualified statement of reasonable assurance of what I have found to be true based on several substantive tests of details of the subject matter at hand as well as various analytically procedures used to reduce the risk of tolerable misstatement which is not limited to the context of this forum. A book has come into my possession which has presented me with persuasive evidence that there is in fact a God. If you care to inquire about it, I will provide further explanation.
Means it can be shown to consistently function the same way almost every time and have a clear, and well defined, explanation, none of this "it works when it works" garbage.

The sun lighting this planet for something around 12 hours a day is demonstrable evidence. Prayer being answered with the consistency of luck is not demonstrable evidence, unless you are trying to demonstrate that it doesn't work.

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timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>How many times are you going to post a summary of that book? You do know that the phrase has entered everyday language and that you can say "the emperor has no clothes" and people will know what you mean, right?
Also, if you would care to educate yourself on evolution, you would see that your analogy makes no sense whatsoever.
I have and what I see is a bunch of smoke being blown up a peoples a**.

Itís going to take more than hype to convince me. A lot of scientist donít believe it either but in order to keep their jobs they have to accept it. This is what I mean when I say evolution has an enforcement arm.

If you are a scientist and you come out publicly that you donít believe in macro evolution. Youíre suddenly unemployed. But if a scientist questions some theory in physics, thatís ok. Just as long as he doesnít question evolution.

This is why I love Hans Christian Andersons book. It brings to light the scam that has been pulled on the general public.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>God is, humans aren't.

Get a clue.
Then there is no free will.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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God is, humans aren't.
Get a clue.
Then humans cannot have free will.

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