Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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#137635 Nov 14, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
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Thank you for the reference.
Primates have 48 Chromosomes. We have 46, ok that’s pretty close but potatoes have 46.
Chromosome #2 fused somehow allegedly.
How did it fuse, what caused the fusion? When did the fusion occur?
Evolution supposedly is this slow blending and gradual change.
However a fusion would indicate a sudden change.
You can’t gradually fuse a chromosome. I can’t image a chromosome gradually fusing, can you? It’s either fused or not. Like a chain, it’s linked or not linked. There’s no gradual linking.
To me the fusing of Chromosome #2 indicates that evolution didn’t happen to mankind.
Learn a little bit about chromosomes, and then learn about the two that fused in humans, and it will make sense to you. There are vestigal centromeres and telomeres on chromosome 2 - usually each chromosome has a telomere on each end and a centromere in the middle, but there are 4 telomeres (with 2 in the middle where the chromosomes fused), and 2 centromeres.

Since: Mar 11

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#137636 Nov 14, 2012
So the first video was above your IQ. No problem relax go watch the second video and if that is to complex we will start with something more your speed.

Remember you don't want none O them big fancy sciencey greek looking explainaySHUNz from them fancy colleges with flush toiets?

LULZ!

Thank you for making a jackass out of yourself for our amusement :))
Eagle12 wrote:
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Thank you for the reference.
Primates have 48 Chromosomes. We have 46, ok that’s pretty close but potatoes have 46.
Chromosome #2 fused somehow allegedly.
How did it fuse, what caused the fusion? When did the fusion occur?
Evolution supposedly is this slow blending and gradual change.
However a fusion would indicate a sudden change.
You can’t gradually fuse a chromosome. I can’t image a chromosome gradually fusing, can you? It’s either fused or not. Like a chain, it’s linked or not linked. There’s no gradual linking.
To me the fusing of Chromosome #2 indicates that evolution didn’t happen to mankind.

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#137637 Nov 14, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Right. Meaning they USED to be one...
Is this a difficult concept?
I think you're having difficulty in understanding that, although they are different in practice, they are still versions of Christianity.

"Worldwide, the three largest groups of Christianity are the Roman Catholic Church, the Eastern Orthodox Church, and the various denominations of Protestantism.

The Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox patriarchates split from one another in the East–West Schism of 1054 AD, and Protestantism came into existence during the Protestant Reformation of the 16th century, splitting from the Roman Catholic Church." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity

Versions of Christianity.

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Since: Mar 11

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#137638 Nov 14, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Catholicism is a denomination, hence a subset, of Christianity.
All Catholics are Christians, but not all Christians are Catholics.
F*ck! Finally! It takes you like 3 or 4 posts, some time in between, and thinking about it to come back to reality.

:)

(remember, before, you claimed that Catholics weren't Christian)
A Christian refers to a follower of Jesus Christ who may be a Catholic, Protestant, Gnostic, Mormon, Evangelical, Anglican or Orthodox, or follower of another branch of the religion.
A Catholic refers to a Christian who follows the Catholic religion as transmitted through the succession of Popes of Rome and the Vatican Empire across history.
The Pope is the leader of the Catholic church. The Catholic Church is the largest of the Christian Churches - about 60% of Christians are Catholic.
Well, there you go. Is the above a Wikipedia quote?

Ok, so why did your Pope side with the Nazis in WWII?!?

(teasing!)

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#137639 Nov 14, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Evolution has sects? Is that because it's a belief system too?
No.

Yes, evolution is a belief system, too. Well...not a whole system by itself, but one that pertains specifically to biological phenomena. Some social scientists try to stretch it waaaaaaaaaaaaay beyond its parameters, though. So, in the sense that it is misused, it becomes akin to an ideology.

Evolution is the framework theory for all biological sciences. Biological sciences are one way of understanding biological phenomena - through the scientific paradigm, as it is envisioned in Western science (in Western nations). Because it rests on disproving hypotheses and not proving them, and often deals with non-directly observable phenomena, and because it is understood through the social (learning involves being taught, disseminating data involves all kinds of social conventions, etc), it is a cultural way of understanding biological phenomena.

There are other ways to understand such phenomena; other cultures do "biology" differently.

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#137640 Nov 14, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>You fantasize about dave's life too?
And his signature!

<trembles>

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#137641 Nov 14, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>No, it's not. There is no controversy about whether or not evolution happened. At all. Can you find proof that there is from a reliable source, or can you only find these assertions on apologist sites?
Hey! What do you mean "anthropologist sites"???

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#137642 Nov 14, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Oops.. Yeah. What she said.
Ha! Ninja'd!

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#137643 Nov 14, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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F*ck! Finally! It takes you like 3 or 4 posts, some time in between, and thinking about it to come back to reality.
:)
(remember, before, you claimed that Catholics weren't Christian)
<quoted text>
Well, there you go. Is the above a Wikipedia quote?
Ok, so why did your Pope side with the Nazis in WWII?!?
(teasing!)
biz to the nich....

Just flash me & get it over with.

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#137644 Nov 14, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
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Examples of what?
Examples of something you don't have free will in.

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#137645 Nov 14, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
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Evolution is a, he said, she said, we think, possibly could have science or so called science. There is a mountain full of evidence (imaginary).
I can see the correlation of evolution and the children’s book,
That's because you're uneducated about biological science, apparently cannot learn so well, quite clearly do not want to learn how biology really works, and have delusions of grandeur in believing you have something interesting to say about evolution.

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#137646 Nov 14, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>There was no technology used in the test, it was a study of complications after heart surgery. The methodology was sound, and they had a large sample size. Look it up yourself if you want, it's all over the internet.
Also, don't you think that way of thinking is a problem? You absolutely will not even consider any evidence that conflicts with your beliefs. That's not good.
'round and 'round we go.....

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#137647 Nov 14, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Good lord. Ok. This is going no where. The tests were no inconclusive. The results were very clear, the methodology was sound - therefore the only way to explain the results without discounting the power of prayer is to invoke a trickster god. Is your god a trickster?
Da tests we no inconcrusive!

no inconcrusive!

No!

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#137648 Nov 14, 2012
scaritual wrote:
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I think you're having difficulty in understanding that, although they are different in practice, they are still versions of Christianity.
"Worldwide, the three largest groups of Christianity are the Roman Catholic Church, the Eastern Orthodox Church, and the various denominations of Protestantism.
The Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox patriarchates split from one another in the East–West Schism of 1054 AD, and Protestantism came into existence during the Protestant Reformation of the 16th century, splitting from the Roman Catholic Church." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity
Versions of Christianity.
ugh to the nth degree....

Would you consider a cheeseburger & a hamburger the same thing?

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#137649 Nov 14, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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No.
Yes, evolution is a belief system, too. Well...not a whole system by itself, but one that pertains specifically to biological phenomena. Some social scientists try to stretch it waaaaaaaaaaaaay beyond its parameters, though. So, in the sense that it is misused, it becomes akin to an ideology.
Evolution is the framework theory for all biological sciences. Biological sciences are one way of understanding biological phenomena - through the scientific paradigm, as it is envisioned in Western science (in Western nations). Because it rests on disproving hypotheses and not proving them, and often deals with non-directly observable phenomena, and because it is understood through the social (learning involves being taught, disseminating data involves all kinds of social conventions, etc), it is a cultural way of understanding biological phenomena.
There are other ways to understand such phenomena; other cultures do "biology" differently.
You had 16 too many big words in there. That's beyond your allowed big word usage.

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Since: Mar 11

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#137650 Nov 14, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
The theory of evolution is like clothes made of invisible fabric. Just get all dressed up in those invisible clothes and take a stroll.
Eagle...Eagle...<shakes head>...you're the high priest of delusional proclamations. The king of ignorance about evolution. The godly godfather of willful stupidity.

Questions:

1. Why do you persist in making yourself out to be the above?

2. Why don't you actually learn about how evolution works so you can produce useful comments on the subject?

3. Failing 2, produce an academic paper that supports your absurd position.

(well, you won't be able to do #3...but I might as well goad you on)

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#137651 Nov 14, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Da tests we no inconcrusive!
no inconcrusive!
No!
I crearry tord him that. He didn't risten.

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#137652 Nov 14, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Hey! What do you mean "anthropologist sites"???
Huh?

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#137653 Nov 14, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Ha! Ninja'd!
Yep, you ninja'd me good there. I didn't even see it coming - the mark of a master ninja.

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#137654 Nov 14, 2012
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Education is the key here. Educating yourself on the FACTS of evolution will help you better understand how the process works. Could it be that you are misinformed about what constitutes evolution. Please don't tell me you belong to that camp of nutbags that hold to the belief that millions of scientists are part of a conspiracy to provide false information to the masses. I'll be very disappointed if thats the case. Do you really believe that hundreds of thousands of biologists, and evolutionary scientists could be so wrong about the process of evolution? You do know that evolution is present in todays medical science. That mainstream science accepts evolution as factual, and you do not, may have a lot to say for the religious blinding that has afflicted you. Its always very sad to see.
I've tried to explain it to him in very, very simple terms. He either is incapable of learning or doesn't want to.

For example, he reposts stuff about "living fossils" every now and again. As in "why are horseshoe crabs still around???" Then I explain to him how the "species concept" works and how he's not invoking it at all.

Then he screams and cries out "why don't chimpanzees drive???" And I explain the concept of "niche" and "adaptive peak" but...but...I might as well be teaching a crocodile to sing.

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