Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Eagle12 wrote:
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“If your religion taught…..”
This hypothetical equation is not congruent to what the Bible teaches. And my religion does not teach racial segregation.
Nothing you have said releases you from your intolerance for religion. That Sir is bigotry, and you are awkwardly trying to realign bigotry to include people of faith. However the official definition of the word,“bigot” does not align with your skewed definition.
Bigotry is an ugly word. But the practice of bigotry is even more repulsive. I can’t stop your bigotry. Only you have control over this. And you’re not reprieved by trying to push the bigotry label off on someone else.
Very poor dodge.

And by the way, I have nothing against religion. I don't know where you got that idea.
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Mark Gongloff, who writes about the financial markets for Huffington Post, caught this whiny exchange between poor oppressed Jamie Dimon and hard-hitting, ass-kissing talking head Maria Bartiromo on CNBC. It's even more bewildering when you think how frequently the Obama administration has bent over for the bankers, but for some people, nothing is enough:

Dimon on Friday afternoon did his whining on CNBC, which has become a sort of Dr. Phil for aggrieved CEOs in the wake of the national catastrophe that is Obama's reelection, according to CNBC. Dimon played some slow-pitch softball with America's greatest journalist, Maria Bartiromo, who threw several fat pitches down the pike.

But the juiciest of all was when she asked him, for journalism, why Obama has such an "antagonistic relationship with business" and when we can expect our civilization to collapse because of it. I'm paraphrasing, but that was the gist of it.

Dimon had, up to that point, been on his very best behavior in the interview, shrugging off her questions about bank regulations by saying JPMorgan would be just fine with any regulations, what are you gonna do, it is what it is.

But when he saw this one juicy pitch from Bartiromo, he could not resist. He reached deep into his temperature-controlled whine cellar and broke out one of his classic whines: A lovely bottle of "Nice Economy, Shame If Something Should Happen To It." In the spirit of post-election bipartisanship, he watered it down a little bit, but it was still classic Dimon.

"This is the greatest economic engine ever built," Dimon began, speaking of America, poor put-upon America, saddled with a president like Obama. "It's growing slowly, waiting to be ignited.

"I have tremendous respect for President Obama," he continued, in the manner of mob bosses throughout the tri-state area, who begin every disrespectful statement by saying "All due respect."

"I just think that business and government collaboration has a much better chance of igniting that engine than this antagonist behavior," he finished.The subtext, as always: Nice economy you've got there, shame if something should happen to it.

As always, it is hard to know exactly what sort of "antagonist behavior" Dimon and Bartiromo are whining about. True, there was that one time Obama referred to "fat cat" bankers, which still keeps bankers up at night sobbing tears into their pillows full of money.

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Nov 13, 2012
 
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Just take a saw and saw your own head off, it slow and cheap
ad will relieve us from your agonizing affliction of stupid.
That atheist love shining through.

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Hidingfromyou wrote:
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In Dave's explanation to you above, he's missing information. Instead of "carcinogens" he should have written "mutagens" since that would include radioactive sources of somatic cell mutation, chemicals, and faulty DNA repair events (the most prevalent cause of cancer).
Carcinogens are simply one class of mutagens, not the whole picture.
But if you wear a tinfoil hat, you might be able to avoid them.
I kinda glazed over his post, but thank you. I thought he was still going on about cell phone towers.
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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Ok. You're ignorant of prayer. Thanks for clearing that up.
Yes, I'm ignorant of prayer, just like I'm ignorant of the weather conditions in Perter Pan's Never-Never Land.

By definition ignorance is the lacking of knowledge or awareness about something in particular. I'm fully aware of what prayer is, I have knowledge about whats involved in the act of praying, so your wrong about my ignorance. You silently ask a favor of a fictitious being in the hopes that he/she/it will grant you the favor. When the favor you ask doesn't happen, you rationalize by saying, "God doesn't answer all prayers just some. If mere chance just happens to create the correct circumstance for your payer, then you proclaim it a God given miracle. However, these miracles ALWAYS involve an act, or event than could be attributed to any number of other possibilities. Thats why we never see miracles happen that involve only ONE possibility, as in regeneration of a limb, or the disappearance of the HIV virus, or bringing back to life a LONG dead loved one. If you think a pleading to a mythical being has manifested itself to you, then one of these three possibilities exists:

1.) You have made a personal interpretation of an event or circumstance that appears to work in your favor.

2.) You have experienced some kind of delusional episode where this miracle exist only in your mind and cannot be confirmed by anyone else.

3.) You have become totally insane.
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Just Results wrote:
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That atheist love shining through.
At least he didn't drown everybody in the world. God loves you.

“In the beginning God Created..”

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KittenKoder wrote:
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Killing your own family for land and justifying it by calling them "witches" is goodness to you? You are twisted.
In fact Christianity has saved millions through our hospitals, giving food to the hungry, clothing and shoes. Building schools and drilling fresh water wells in poor schools. Reaching out to the homeless. Drug and Alcohol rehab centers, and prison outreach.

Lives saved by Atheist Hospitals, and generous giving?

Zilch……

Those that died under Atheist leadership, ohhhh only about 180 million.

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Nov 13, 2012
 
correction: in poor countries.

“In the beginning God Created..”

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Catcher1 wrote:
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Very poor dodge.
And by the way, I have nothing against religion. I don't know where you got that idea.
You have nothing against religion?

Just like a wolf has nothing against sheep?

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Thinking wrote:
Great, thanks. Been very busy recently, done a lot of travelling.
Hope life is treating you well in that there North.
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14Nov12.....

.....Naw.

Ps:....You just continue to live off the avails fo yer French woman who has rocks in her head.

....and den sum tooooo.

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Thinking wrote:
Didn't you mean p!ss?
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14Nov12.....

.....Naw.

Ps:...she means Guiness...da poor mans drink in yer neck of da woods.

Try 'Libfromelch'.

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Eagle12 wrote:
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You have nothing against religion?
Just like a wolf has nothing against sheep?
I respect the right of anybody to believe whatever he or she wants.

Nor do I have anything against sheep.

So you're safe, dude!

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timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>It is not bigoted to point out racism/sexism/homophobia being present in a religion's teachings. Religion is not sacred and free from criticism. Ugly, backwards beliefs should be called out and extinguished. Your bible teaches many ugly, backwards things, and these beliefs need to be snuffed out. Just to be clear, I am not saying that christianity should be snuffed out, just the many repugnant things that it teaches - I feel the need to state this clearly so that I don't reactivate your delusions of persecution.
“these beliefs need to be snuffed out.”

What you are talking about is censorship. The government controlling religious beliefs so as to represent your own ideology. What happened to separation of Church and State?

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Hidingfromyou wrote:
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You like Budweiser?!? Blach!!!
One sip for me, instant migraine. It has some chemical in it that gets boys not laid. No joke - full on migraine.
!4Nov12....

.....so vot is yer drink???

Ps:.....Piss!!!

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blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, I'm ignorant of prayer, just like I'm ignorant of the weather conditions in Perter Pan's Never-Never Land.
By definition ignorance is the lacking of knowledge or awareness about something in particular. I'm fully aware of what prayer is, I have knowledge about whats involved in the act of praying, so your wrong about my ignorance. You silently ask a favor of a fictitious being in the hopes that he/she/it will grant you the favor. When the favor you ask doesn't happen, you rationalize by saying, "God doesn't answer all prayers just some. If mere chance just happens to create the correct circumstance for your payer, then you proclaim it a God given miracle. However, these miracles ALWAYS involve an act, or event than could be attributed to any number of other possibilities. Thats why we never see miracles happen that involve only ONE possibility, as in regeneration of a limb, or the disappearance of the HIV virus, or bringing back to life a LONG dead loved one. If you think a pleading to a mythical being has manifested itself to you, then one of these three possibilities exists:
1.) You have made a personal interpretation of an event or circumstance that appears to work in your favor.
2.) You have experienced some kind of delusional episode where this miracle exist only in your mind and cannot be confirmed by anyone else.
3.) You have become totally insane.
4)Jesus.

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Eagle12 wrote:
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You have nothing against religion?
Just like a wolf has nothing against sheep?
Now you're getting your analogies mixed up. I thought he was a chihuahua?

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NightSerf wrote:
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Remember the old jingle, "Schaefer is the one beer to have when you're having more than one."? there's something to that. Weak American lagers may lack any character worth mentioning, but their alcohol content is also lower, so you can drink more of them without getting sloppy drunk. Me, I'd rather have one or maybe two really good beers (or glasses of win) than a six pack of Bud Light, but I have friends who prefer the latter. At the end of the evening, we both drive home safely.
14Nov12.....

.....You obviously have Not drank Black Ice.

Ps:....or Bubra No. 5

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Eagle12 wrote:
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“these beliefs need to be snuffed out.”
What you are talking about is censorship. The government controlling religious beliefs so as to represent your own ideology. What happened to separation of Church and State?
When did he ever mention government intervention?

You build and knock down straw men like a disgruntled crow.

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Eagle12 wrote:
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“these beliefs need to be snuffed out.”
What you are talking about is censorship. The government controlling religious beliefs so as to represent your own ideology. What happened to separation of Church and State?
It's not censorship. Free speech has limits. We do not allow hate speech, for instance, and some things that your religion preaches constitute hate speech.

Stop having such a persecution complex. No one wants the government to control whether or not you can believe in skydaddy, I am simply of the opinion that hateful rhetoric and hateful beliefs should not be able to hide under the guise of "religious freedom." You are not free to hate and discriminate based on what some old book tells you.

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Thinking wrote:
I get your reasoning. I'm lucky to have four village pubs within 1.6 miles of my house so I can drink what I want and walk the dog back home if I'm not legal to drive.
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14Nov12......\

.....You are Never legal to drive. You just don't have a licence....and you do Not have a house. You live in a sod shack basement apartment in some farmer's outHouse.

Ps: Also da dog (Your wife) is drunk as usual.

BobLoblah welcomes you, ya scumbag back....for more of da same.

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