Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#129984 Oct 15, 2012
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>No, he doesn't, he says we are far too miraculous in our makeup to be the result of a fluke.... he does believe we have evolved into what we are today, and of course, we have adapted as such.
Collins believes that God Created the universe to produce humans. He believes that God uses the tool of evolution to produce us - that everything is determined, so that we got here. God, Collins believes, is omniscient so that this is possible.

It's a silly, teenager kind of logic that is easily trashed.

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#129985 Oct 15, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Then why are there fish today living in shallow waters? It obviously works for them.
Speciation doesn't work like you pretend it does. Species evolve to take advantage of available resources. An overly simplistic way to say this is that species evolve to take advantage of available niches.

When lobe-finned fish moved into shallow water, there were no land vertebrates. That niche was open for them. Some populations in those species did their best to catch food close to the shore, sometimes on the shore. This caused selection pressure for some populations and not others to evolve adaptations for getting better at eating food near the shoreline.

But that doesn't mean that the intertidal niche disappeared. Where do you get that nonsensical idea from?

Like the other stupid idea that creationists always talk about "why are there monkeys?!?" Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh, because there are still monkey niches available. It's not like those went anywhere.

When amphibians evolved, the intertidal zone didn't vanish. Why on earth would you think it would?

It's like evolution is some kind of powerful tornado for you, pulling everything along - "well, water didn't work, let's try land!" Oh, there's no more fish because we all moved up here!

Please. Your scenarios are so amazingly uninformed and thoughtless, it's hard for me not to laugh my head off reading them.

I still think you're ok, though, RR :p
:p
:-p

/hug

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#129986 Oct 15, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh my. Again & again.
Athitards say "you are so ignorant of it" countless times.
Why?
Because your lack of education in the sciences leads you to ask nonsensical questions and produce crazy straw men scenarios that have nothing whatsoever to do with science.

From our point of view, it's like you're arguing that Jesus was a woman.
Because whomever doesn't believe in what they believe in MUST be ignorant...
"ignorance" means "lacking knowledge"

When you create ridiculous ideas and tell us that's what we believe, you are demonstrating ignorance. If you used well-informed scenarios and actually produced good argument, you wouldn't get called ignorant.

So, study your biology and try again.
I say you are ignorant because you can't open your tiny mind enough to even consider the possibility that God is real.
It's quite sad.
No, Buddha! No, Vishnu! Oh, no, which one do we chose?!?

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#129987 Oct 15, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Do mud fish fry in the sun? No one is claiming these fish sat on the edge of land long enough to fry.
Scales can change also.
They did not 'learn' to breath, the evolved to breath. Again you are showing cartoon thinking.
Show me a scientist who claims a fish learned to breath? You cannot. So why make the claim that is what I claim?
Do you have an estimate on how many trillion^unknown power fish it took before one could handle the direct heat of the sun, and pick up all of those nifty things enabling it to walk on land? You are talking a whole LOT of morphing there.

Have you been watching evolution cartoons?

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#129988 Oct 15, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Do you mean Richard Dawkins?
No, I mean RiversideRedneck. Why do you ask?

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#129989 Oct 15, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
I hadn't noticed that you said anything about my tagline. But now that you have, and arrogantly think my changing it had anything to do with you, I'll change it back.
Well, I am helping to make an honest woman of you. Maybe.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#129990 Oct 15, 2012
Chess Jurist wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sure you had a point, Dave.
And it was?
If neither of you can make the connection geologically and anthropologically, and timewise, then there is no sense bringing it to your attention. Read some science books.

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#129991 Oct 15, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, I am helping to make an honest woman of you. Maybe.
I was honest before I met you and will be honest long after I learn not to post on these threads.

Or are you saying that my tagline is honest now? It currently reads "Christianity is stupid! Give up, give up!"

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#129992 Oct 15, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you have an estimate on how many trillion^unknown power fish it took before one could handle the direct heat of the sun, and pick up all of those nifty things enabling it to walk on land? You are talking a whole LOT of morphing there.
Have you been watching evolution cartoons?
Can you provide even a morsel of evidence for that made up creationist bullsh*t you're selling?

You're been caught openly lying about science in this forum, you're a joke you ridiculous Discovery institute troll shill.

Do us all a favour and get the f*ck out of this forum and come back with some proof of that mindless drivel that comes out of every post you make, you stupid liar.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#129993 Oct 15, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you have an estimate on how many trillion^unknown power fish it took before one could handle the direct heat of the sun, and pick up all of those nifty things enabling it to walk on land? You are talking a whole LOT of morphing there.
Have you been watching evolution cartoons?
Again, look at mudfish and watch the cartoon. It happens. So how can you dispute it happens. Fish do come on land. It is an absolute fact. Mudfish prove it happens.

Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#129994 Oct 15, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
If neither of you can make the connection geologically and anthropologically, and timewise, then there is no sense bringing it to your attention. Read some science books.
Do you mean real science?

Or Thornhill-type electric universe stuff?

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#129995 Oct 15, 2012
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
Can you provide even a morsel of evidence for that made up creationist bullsh*t you're selling?
You're been caught openly lying about science in this forum, you're a joke you ridiculous Discovery institute troll shill.
Do us all a favour and get the f*ck out of this forum and come back with some proof of that mindless drivel that comes out of every post you make, you stupid liar.
Youíre always a diplomat.

Why arenít you working in the UN?

You could be handling delicate problem of Iran going nuclear.

Such great talent you have and itís going to waste.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#129996 Oct 15, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>
It means I'm going to wheel your ass to church and get you saved. Weíll baptize you and the wheelchair together.
How long can you hold your breath underwater.
What a wanker! LOL!

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#129997 Oct 15, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
I was honest before I met you and will be honest long after I learn not to post on these threads.
Or are you saying that my tagline is honest now? It currently reads "Christianity is stupid! Give up, give up!"
No, you are being honest in that you are now showing you are just another one each fanatical and rabid anti-theist posing as more than what you really are.

BTW, your older tagline didn't specify Christianity. It attacked all religion. But you didn't realize your scientism is one of those.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#129998 Oct 15, 2012
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
Can you provide even a morsel of evidence for that made up creationist bullsh*t you're selling?
You're been caught openly lying about science in this forum, you're a joke you ridiculous Discovery institute troll shill.
Do us all a favour and get the f*ck out of this forum and come back with some proof of that mindless drivel that comes out of every post you make, you stupid liar.
Here's a tissue. Wipe your nose.

“Nothing can stop, This Pony..”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#129999 Oct 15, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Here's a tissue. Wipe your nose.

Here's a q tip , clean out your ears.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#130000 Oct 15, 2012
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>No; but GOD is inside and within, the big bang theory is exactly that, a theory. A thought, and idea..... by those who don't know GOD :)
I think you left the nut house a little too soon!

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#130001 Oct 15, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
What a wanker! LOL!
How long can you hold your breath underwater?

We are going to get you saved. The water won't hurt your wheelchair.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#130002 Oct 15, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>
How long can you hold your breath underwater?
We are going to get you saved. The water won't hurt your wheelchair.
You're too tough for me! You are such a big and strong... typist! LOL!!!!

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#130003 Oct 15, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Many theists believe in evolution. In fact, the Catholic church now officially says evolution is true.....
It is only a small minority of Christians (less than 3% worldwide) who deny evolution and other realities. Most of them are in the rural areas of the Southern USA and their demographics are well correlated to racism, poverty and a dismal education system. They are, in a sense, already in "Hell" and too ignorant to realize it. Their deity apparently rejoices over their self induced misery.

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