Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.
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Legs likely formed from fins. No science is claiming a fully formed leg sprouted overnight.
This fin to leg may have taken tens of millions of years to complete.
Look at mudfish and you you may get a better picture of what may have happened.
lol. Mudfish are real, they aren't hypothetical fishies that are used to fill in the evolutionary blanks.

You said in an earlier post that you see fossils.

Where's the fossil of all the millions of years in evolution of a fish mutating into a land animal?

Do you se that fossil? Or is it just in your mind?

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<quoted text>Why should he heal your amputated limb? You don't believe, so you should ask your daddy satan to do your healing. Don't come to my dad's house and ask him for an allowance either.
I write on a political thread often. One theist said they prayed to help the girl that was abducted last week.
Turns out her prayers were ignored. I am sure millions of Christians prayed for her. They were all ignored.
So I asked her to explain why they think god would refuse to answer their prayers. She said he must have wanted her in heaven with him.
So I said what was the point of praying then? She refused to answer.
So can you answer what the point of praying would be if god just does what he wants and not what people praying wants?

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<quoted text>No no no, you haven't shown us where anyone's DNA takes them back to an ape or chimp..... Show me the link where a person's DNA proves that they are the ancestors of animals; everyone's DNA takes them back to a person.....
The smoking gun evidence for human descent from ancestral apes is in human chromosome 2.

But it's only evidence if you let it be. I haven't seen that happen with a Christian yet.

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<quoted text>The hypothesis is, the fish that evolved legs did so living in shallow waters.{STOP}
Then why are there fish today living in shallow waters? It obviously works for them.

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<quoted text>I think we can fathom it, you just cannot show evidence of it. And until you do, we will likely lean on the side of science instead of religion.
You have shown no evidence.

You've only spouted your opinion.

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Oct 15, 2012
 
Dave Nelson wrote:
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How long does it take for a fish to fry in the sun?
Guess they learned to get a tan while learning to breathe and walk, also, eh?
Of course, you had to have those adventurous fishy souls that even dared to leave their comfort zone in the first place.
Pretty fancy adapting.

Let's see you know there is an answer...let's add this concept
nocturnal. Now that changes the whole sun equation.

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<quoted text>Maybe they evolved in waters that did not have predators like the ones who evolved legs.
Nothing in the theory of evolution holds all species must change. Nothing in the theory says the species 'must' change or die. Depends, depends, depends.
Oh, of course!

That way, anything goes. Anything is permissable. Right?

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<quoted text>Your mind can make you feel euphoria. It all depends upon what you are thinking. If you actually believe a god is great and all that, it would likely give you a euphoric feeling when thinking of it.
That is textbook psychology. Sad you are so ignorant of it.
Oh my. Again & again.

Athitards say "you are so ignorant of it" countless times.

Why?

Because whomever doesn't believe in what they believe in MUST be ignorant...

I say you are ignorant because you can't open your tiny mind enough to even consider the possibility that God is real.

It's quite sad.

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Dysphoric.
Dysphoria - an emotional state characterized by anxiety, depression, or unease. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/dysphoric
Thank you.

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preterism wrote:
<quoted text> Richard Hawkings fame is only good to those who believe him, and that's not many. He is famous to the devil for sure. as he is considered by the devil as a true follower whose path we know will eventuslly lead to eternal damnation, such a waste.
Do you mean Richard Dawkins?

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Then why are there fish today living in shallow waters? It obviously works for them.
Evolving to get on land does not mean it was the only way to survive.
If you actually look at evolution theory, you will find this is standard.
Are your cousins just like yourself? Of course not, yet they survive and reproduce.
Now if the only way to survive was to have legs, then all fish would have gone extinct.
As the facts show, 99.9% of all species that have lived on earth have gone extinct, so this is often the case. But clearly not always the case.

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Oh my. Again & again.
Athitards say "you are so ignorant of it" countless times.
Why?
Because whomever doesn't believe in what they believe in MUST be ignorant...
I say you are ignorant because you can't open your tiny mind enough to even consider the possibility that God is real.
It's quite sad.
Ignorance means you are not understanding of some information. You showed a lack of understanding of the information. Thus you were ignorant of the information.
It is not always an insult to be ignorant of some information. Everyone is ignorant of some information.

So shed the thin skin or educate yourself.

Theists tend to dismiss a lot of science. Psychology is one of those sciences theists tend to dismiss. This is likely why they do not study psychology. Thus they tend to be ignorant of what psychology says.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Oh, of course!
That way, anything goes. Anything is permissable. Right?
"Anything is permissible? No, just more things are possible than you seem to be able to imagine.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You have shown no evidence.
You've only spouted your opinion.
There are all sorts of evidence for evolution. Just read a science book to see some.

There is no evidence for a god. Do you dispute this?

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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lol. Mudfish are real, they aren't hypothetical fishies that are used to fill in the evolutionary blanks.
You said in an earlier post that you see fossils.
Where's the fossil of all the millions of years in evolution of a fish mutating into a land animal?
Do you se that fossil? Or is it just in your mind?
Their is not many of that change. There is some. It was four hundred million years ago. Kind of hard to find fossils of all the slow changes. A fossil is rare. More rare than you creationists seems to think.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiktaalik
Here is the most famous one found to date.

And what does mud fish being real and alive have to do with dismissing my points? It shows fish can come on land and not fry. I see you completely avoided that debate.

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Dave Nelson wrote:
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Perhaps you missed the point of them being several thousand feet above sea level, having ports and such.
"Tiwanaku appears to have been a port city, as well. However, Lake Titicaca, the only body of water, is almost 20 kilometers distant. There are piers and wharfs in Tiwanaku with long, straight calcium deposits that indicate prehistoric water lines, although they no longer lie in a horizontal plane, they are slanted. There are millions of seashells in the area, as well. Lake Titicaca, itself, is a salt water inland sea that is rapidly shrinking. Its fossilized shorelines are also dramatically tilted. Abundant sea life still thrives in Lake Titicaca, instilling a presumption that it was once part of the ocean."
http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2012/10/07/ti...
3700 years old by mainstream science, 17,000 by others.
How long ago were the Andes supposed to have been formed?
I know.

This is more Thornhill-style gobbledigook.

Power surges in the sun and all that.

Religion.

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<quoted text>Ignorance means you are not understanding of some information. You showed a lack of understanding of the information. Thus you were ignorant of the information.
It is not always an insult to be ignorant of some information. Everyone is ignorant of some information.
So shed the thin skin or educate yourself.
Theists tend to dismiss a lot of science. Psychology is one of those sciences theists tend to dismiss. This is likely why they do not study psychology. Thus they tend to be ignorant of what psychology says.
I think it's worth noting the difference between ignorance and willful ignorance.

It's also worth pointing out the inherent dishonesty in speaking with authority on matters in which you are ignorant.

As far as theistic universals, we see both willful ignorance and dishonest claims of authority. Religion simply could not exist in the absence of these two things.

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Chess Jurist wrote:
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I'm sure you had a point, Dave.
And it was?
Give Dave a break.

His brain was fried by electromagnetic forces.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
Where's the fossil of all the millions of years in evolution of a fish mutating into a land animal? Do you se that fossil? Or is it just in your mind?
It was right where it was predicted it would be, in Devonian strata :

"Tiktaalik is a monospecific genus of extinct sarcopterygian (lobe-finned "fish") from the late Devonian period, with many features akin to those of tetrapods (four-legged animals).

"It is an example from several lines of ancient sarcopterygian "fish" developing adaptations to the oxygen-poor shallow-water habitats of its time, which led to the evolution of tetrapods."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiktaalik

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Charles Darwin had the same name as Darwin Stevens on Bewitched, who worked for Larry Tate, who had the same last name as Manson victim Sharon Tate, who was Married to Roman Polanski, who directed Kevin Bacon in "Stir of Echoes / The Ninth Gate"
Charles Darwin set sail from Plymouth. Kevin Bacon was offered the lead role in a movie called "Christine" about a demonic 1958 Plymouth Fury.

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