Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

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#129940 Oct 15, 2012
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>You better let the scientists know then.... somehow, I don't think your views will have an impact LOL
You're a pathetic dishonest lying idiot lying for your cult. Its a pity you havent yet realised this truth.

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Since: Dec 10

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#129941 Oct 15, 2012
Martina Navratilover wrote:
<quoted text>Who says; science says and the whole theory of evolution based on survival of the fittest. No, clueless one, many humans engage in sport fishing and hunting. It is sport, and that is why it is called fishing and gaming, since it is a game to catch the game. Animals hunt for food and survival. You will never find a lion hunting just for sport. One clue at a time, take this one and use it.
Did I say humans did not hunt for sport? Nope. So I am not sure who you are debating, but it is not a debate of what I said. And I did not dispute animals hunting for needs. But does that automatically mean they get no pleasure from it? You have not addressed point I actually made.
Evolution is not all based upon survival of the fittest in the sense some feel it is. Most all evolutionary scientists have backed away from the survival of the fittest concept.

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#129942 Oct 15, 2012
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>No no no, you haven't shown us where anyone's DNA takes them back to an ape or chimp..... Show me the link where a person's DNA proves that they are the ancestors of animals; everyone's DNA takes them back to a person.....
You need to prove your god before you attempt to talk science. This is cowardly and dishonest behaviour from a Creationist with no evidence that your hallucinations and mental illness have any effect on e real world.

If you want atheists to believe in your ridiculous nonsense you call a faith, you need to up your game and stop lying about science to people who are miles smarter than you, because it makes you look really, really f*cking atupid.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

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#129943 Oct 15, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you Eldon for the meal I am about to skarf down.
I lean towards "Snooky".

Snooky Christ.

"Our Snooky who art in heaven...."

In the name of the Snooky, the Snooky and the holy Snooky..."

I dunno, Herschel is good too, and Eldon, I mean, it's simple and has that instant and classic appeal.

Skipper, Gilligan and the Professor could probably work, but there might be some legal issues with those.

We know who Thurston would be...

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#129944 Oct 15, 2012
Martina Navratilover wrote:
<quoted text>What has theism got to do with one's personal belief. The Catholic church also believed that Jews and Protestants were heretics and killed over 150 million because of that belief. When it is convenient you atheists claim that Hitler was a Catholic, which means that the church believed in gneocide and continuing satan's work of killing Jews.
It is called atheist satanism and it infects the church too.
I am not here defending Catholicism. I am simply showing theists also believe in evolution. You did not dispute that fact.
Again, who are you debating? Are you hearing voices in your head?

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#129945 Oct 15, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
I have no idea what your point is. You have not made a point.
Hey Mike.

Are you just meeting Dave Nelson? You're in for a treat. Dave thinks you should be creative and come up your own physics rather than copying other people's physics from physics books.

He doesn't think much of book learning, universities, scholarship, or credentials. He calls a formal education "parroting" - just regurgitating what you've been told rather than thinking for yourself. I think Dave would find that description close to his liking.

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#129946 Oct 15, 2012
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>No no no, you haven't shown us where anyone's DNA takes them back to an ape or chimp..... Show me the link where a person's DNA proves that they are the ancestors of animals; everyone's DNA takes them back to a person.....
<sigh>

Darwin stated we came from a "common ancestor". He never claimed we descended from apes. Or chimps.

"The remarkable similarity among the genomes of
humans and the African great apes could warrant
their classification together as a single genus."

http://cmm.ucsd.edu/varki/varkilab/Publicatio...

And there are, of course differences, too.

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#129947 Oct 15, 2012
Martina Navratilover wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, science is doing a lot of research on evolution, much to your chagrin since it is refuting a lot of your preconceptions.
Science does not stand firm on the idea of animals descending from other species, which I am sure you meant. That is one question that is being looked into. 2 million year old Sediba has put a monkey in that wrench, since he was found to be more evolved that neanderthal man and closer to human man. Also, 195 million year old Jurassic rat is laying claim to being human's oldest ancester, so you may want to trim your whiskers and go visit some kins in your nearest sewer.
Seeing fossils, which you have never found, are simply evidence of fossils, not evolution. How many times must you students be told this? The second time was one too many.
Sediba does not defy the theory of evolution one bit and neither does the 195 million year old mammal rodent. I am sure you wish it did, but it does not.
I have absolutely no problem having a 195 million year old ancestor that was a rodent. Do you? Is it an insult to you? If so, then I can see why you automatically dismiss evolution. It offends your thin skinned mind.

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Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#129948 Oct 15, 2012
LOL in a suit wrote:
Good post.
Thank you very kindly.

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#129949 Oct 15, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Mike.
Are you just meeting Dave Nelson? You're in for a treat. Dave thinks you should be creative and come up your own physics rather than copying other people's physics from physics books.
He doesn't think much of book learning, universities, scholarship, or credentials. He calls a formal education "parroting" - just regurgitating what you've been told rather than thinking for yourself. I think Dave would find that description close to his liking.
Thanks for the heads up. I pretty much figured as much. That is why I stopped debating on this tread for so long. Seems as if all these creationists make up their own science.

Hope all is well with you.

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#129950 Oct 15, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
In the sense of the paragraph he was not using if as a conjunction but noun
If noun
supposition; uncertain possibility: a condition, requirement, stipulation:
Ahh you are talking about magic right?
Oh my...

He said "If there was a god..."

You've determined that word, "if" to be a noun?

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#129951 Oct 15, 2012
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>No; but GOD is inside and within, the big bang theory is exactly that, a theory. A thought, and idea..... by those who don't know GOD :)
Why do you behave as if you could know anything about any gods that I wouldn't also know? You have no special senses or faculties.

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#129952 Oct 15, 2012
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>No no no, you haven't shown us where anyone's DNA takes them back to an ape or chimp..... Show me the link where a person's DNA proves that they are the ancestors of animals; everyone's DNA takes them back to a person.....
"Everyone's DNA takes them back to a person..." Yes, but what of before this? Our DNA is almost the same as apes, thus it stands to reason we are related.
Our DNA is closer to apes than any other species. This is evidence. Proof is in the eye of the beholder.

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Fennario

#129953 Oct 15, 2012
Double Fine wrote:
Francis Collins openly rejects Creationism, did you know that?
Serah wrote:
No, he doesn't, he says we are far too miraculous in our makeup to be the result of a fluke.... he does believe we have evolved into what we are today, and of course, we have adapted as such.
You don't seem to know what creationism is. It's in your bible, and it doesn't include evolution.

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#129954 Oct 15, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
Legs likely formed from fins. No science is claiming a fully formed leg sprouted overnight.
This fin to leg may have taken tens of millions of years to complete.
Look at mudfish and you you may get a better picture of what may have happened.
lol. Mudfish are real, they aren't hypothetical fishies that are used to fill in the evolutionary blanks.

You said in an earlier post that you see fossils.

Where's the fossil of all the millions of years in evolution of a fish mutating into a land animal?

Do you se that fossil? Or is it just in your mind?

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#129955 Oct 15, 2012
Martina Navratilover wrote:
<quoted text>Why should he heal your amputated limb? You don't believe, so you should ask your daddy satan to do your healing. Don't come to my dad's house and ask him for an allowance either.
I write on a political thread often. One theist said they prayed to help the girl that was abducted last week.
Turns out her prayers were ignored. I am sure millions of Christians prayed for her. They were all ignored.
So I asked her to explain why they think god would refuse to answer their prayers. She said he must have wanted her in heaven with him.
So I said what was the point of praying then? She refused to answer.
So can you answer what the point of praying would be if god just does what he wants and not what people praying wants?

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#129956 Oct 15, 2012
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>No no no, you haven't shown us where anyone's DNA takes them back to an ape or chimp..... Show me the link where a person's DNA proves that they are the ancestors of animals; everyone's DNA takes them back to a person.....
The smoking gun evidence for human descent from ancestral apes is in human chromosome 2.

But it's only evidence if you let it be. I haven't seen that happen with a Christian yet.

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#129957 Oct 15, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>The hypothesis is, the fish that evolved legs did so living in shallow waters.{STOP}
Then why are there fish today living in shallow waters? It obviously works for them.

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#129958 Oct 15, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>I think we can fathom it, you just cannot show evidence of it. And until you do, we will likely lean on the side of science instead of religion.
You have shown no evidence.

You've only spouted your opinion.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

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#129959 Oct 15, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
How long does it take for a fish to fry in the sun?
Guess they learned to get a tan while learning to breathe and walk, also, eh?
Of course, you had to have those adventurous fishy souls that even dared to leave their comfort zone in the first place.
Pretty fancy adapting.

Let's see you know there is an answer...let's add this concept
nocturnal. Now that changes the whole sun equation.

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