Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

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#129857 Oct 15, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>I'm starting to agree with this Serah lady.
.. you're finally wising up. Always agree with the ladies ..

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Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#129858 Oct 15, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Salvation more important than arm. Mark 9: 43-47.
No. The arm is more important. The need for salvation from being born human is a lie from your church designed to create a sense of fear and dependence in you.

That you think what you just posted is evidence to others that your thinking has become quite deformed by your religious beliefs. Making you think such things can't be good for you, just the priests that you tithe to, obey, and proselytize for. They made you value them and their church more than your arm.

BTW, your book is not an authoritative source to those without faith in it, so citing it is pretty pointless.

“Ditat Deus”

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#129859 Oct 15, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
Francis Collins is not a Creationist in that he believes in a 6000 year old planet and Adam and Eve. He doesn't - for him, these are myths.
If God is outside of nature, then science can neither prove nor disprove his existence. Atheism itself must therefore be considered a form of blind faith, in that it adopts a belief system that cannot be defended on the basis of pure reason.(Collins, 2006, p.165)

Interesting.....

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#129860 Oct 15, 2012
Martina Navratilover wrote:
<quoted text>Why should he heal your amputated limb? You don't believe
But you do, and you won't get an amputated limb healed, either.

Your god is indistinguishable from nonexistent. It lets people blaspheme him, it never gave us any useful science, and science has found no evidence of an intelligent designer but plenty that your bible is wrong.

Also, the god still hasn't returned, won't move mountains for you as promised or answer prayers in any scientifically demonstrable way, and has left no indisputable evidence of any miracles.

Your kids get leukemia just as often as atheists' kids, your god doesn't protect us from earthquakes or tsunamis, and its church is evaporating away.

And it doesn't grow limbs back.

Why have you settled for so little? Why do you believe in and even make excuses for this god? How much more invisible does it have to be before you doubt it?

“Humanity's first sin was faith. The first virtue was doubt.”- Mike Huben
Loren Eberly

Lebanon, OH

#129861 Oct 15, 2012
Forty Seven Percent Nonvoters Elected What USA Is Today:

The 47% nonvoters of this Representative Republic that sit on their dead hands and whine; elected President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

That defies USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit. This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit. And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

President, the Justices they appoint, and Elected Officials hold Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. That gets only product or service.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands is bankrupting USA. Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot afford life and pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#129862 Oct 15, 2012
Martina Navratilover wrote:
Prove that your mother loves you.
That's easy.

Once, while visiting her at Leisure World, I heated some coffee in her microwave. I entered "60" and hit start. She had always entered "100," which is converted to "1:00" - same thing - but with one more keystroke.

My mother carried on about how clever and efficient I was for several minutes, even telling a friend of hers in front of me. It was Seinfeld-esque.

That's a mother's love.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#129863 Oct 15, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
If God is outside of nature, then science can neither prove nor disprove his existence. Atheism itself must therefore be considered a form of blind faith, in that it adopts a belief system that cannot be defended on the basis of pure reason.(Collins, 2006, p.165)
Interesting.....
There is no physical or practical evidence for the subject of the paragraph

The very first phrase is open to question. Where does that babble say that god is outside nature? If that first phrase is an assumption or personal opinion then the rest of the passage must also be considered and assumption or personal opinion

It makes assumptions based on misunderstanding of the general nature of atheism.

And the guy questions atheistic reason?

Intersting…

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#129864 Oct 15, 2012
Ooops - Interesting…

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#129865 Oct 15, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
If a god or gods were involved in the creation of the world we find ourselves in, they weren't yours. Yours didn't use a big bang or evolution. Neither did Marduk or Odin.
What did my God use?

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#129866 Oct 15, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no physical or practical evidence for the subject of the paragraph
The very first phrase is open to question. Where does that babble say that god is outside nature? If that first phrase is an assumption or personal opinion then the rest of the passage must also be considered and assumption or personal opinion
It makes assumptions based on misunderstanding of the general nature of atheism.
And the guy questions atheistic reason?
Intersting…
Good point. But that's why the first wird of the sentence is IF...

Open your mind a little.

Understand that not everything is or can be in the realm of science.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#129867 Oct 15, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
That's easy.
Once, while visiting her at Leisure World, I heated some coffee in her microwave. I entered "60" and hit start. She had always entered "100," which is converted to "1:00" - same thing - but with one more keystroke.
My mother carried on about how clever and efficient I was for several minutes, even telling a friend of hers in front of me. It was Seinfeld-esque.
That's a mother's love.
No, he said to prove that you love your mother, not tell a story about what a mother's love is...

Prove you love your mother.

Or anything for that matter...

Since: Mar 11

Hurst, TX

#129868 Oct 15, 2012
Stupid naive people. Simply look in the mirror.
preterism wrote:
<quoted text> What did my God use?

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#129869 Oct 15, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
Because he never heals an amputee or someone born without a limb. Never a single account of God regrowing a limb for someone. Creating the universe? No problem for God! But regrow a limb on someone? Hey let's not get nuts even God has his limitations like iron chariots
God also hates shrimp. Fact.
<quoted text>
So you expect God to write down every single thing he does when he can't even get you to read what little he does write about. Do you know he raised the dead, and your whinning about him not putting down replacing an amputees arm The iron chariots you talk about is so easy to comprehend so it would be an insult to you if I explained it to you. Listen man just study and you'll find out all about the iron chariots and what he's trying to explain to you about this in the correct perspective, you can do it if you'll just study snd when you get the right sndwer you and I will be proud of your accomplishment.

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#129870 Oct 15, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
Stupid naive people. Simply look in the mirror.
<quoted text>
Please explain more so I can comprehend what you're trying to say.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#129871 Oct 15, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Atheism is a negative which cannot be proven and an appeal to ignorance.
Once you specify operationally what a god is, the hypothesis that there is no god is scientific, since it is falsifiable by producing a god.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operational_defi...

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#129872 Oct 15, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Good point. But that's why the first wird of the sentence is IF...
Open your mind a little.
Understand that not everything is or can be in the realm of science.
In the sense of the paragraph he was not using if as a conjunction but noun

If noun
supposition; uncertain possibility: a condition, requirement, stipulation:

Ahh you are talking about magic – right?

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Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#129873 Oct 15, 2012
Double Fine wrote:
Yo amigo. How goes it in the land of the golden sunrise?
Muy bien. And in your hemisphere?

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Fennario

#129875 Oct 15, 2012
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
6 degrees of Charles Darwin?
Charles Darwin had the same name as Darwin Stevens on Bewitched, who worked for Larry Tate, who had the same last name as Manson victim Sharon Tate, who was Married to Roman Polanski, who directed Kevin Bacon in "Stir of Echoes / The Ninth Gate"

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Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#129876 Oct 15, 2012
Happy Lesbo wrote:
who is Howard Roark ??
Who is John Galt?(shrugs)

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

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#129877 Oct 15, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
And what makes you think that others don’t think the same way?
Gee I love your threats
No threat to any but the enemy, sorry Christine dear..
It's hard for the warrior to escape warrior mentality.
Just let it go... we agree there is two to make a fight,
but I will not fight with you, for you are not my enemy :)

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