Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.
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#129851
Oct 15, 2012
 
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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Don't be stupid. Do you know a group who wants all brits dead?
Do you know a group who wants to kill women and children? Do they have meetings and discuss who they are going to fly planes into?
Try not to make such stupid statements, please! The taliban is a group of people, who have no problem murdering innocent little girls! The taliban stood up and took credit for it! They are happy that this brother shot a little girl!
Say what? you said you weren’t going to answer because I was focussing on individuals, you wanted groups and when I pointed out the attachment to groups you claim stupidity – god what a moron you are.

You appear to be mixing up the taliban with Al Qeada, not surprising that you are ignorant of facts.

The IRA were (they still exist, you may even have funded there murderous campaign through NORAID) a group of people who had no problem murdering and maiming innocent women and children in the UK. The fact that they comprised of individual murders made no difference to the victims

You need to read the news, they did not murder an innocent girl, they attempted and failed and she is being flown to the UK today for specialist treatment. Treatment that was learned during the troubles with the IRA.

I may not like it, you may not like it but the taliban has just as much right to be happy as you would be if it your brother shot a taliban insurgent.

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#129852
Oct 15, 2012
 
Aura Mytha wrote:
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I set the scene to who ever wants to take our freedoms away,
If you are one of them yes be afraid.
And what makes you think that others don’t think the same way?

Gee I love your threats

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Oct 15, 2012
 

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Oh, I forgot to reply that Richard Hawking is an atheist.... of renowned fame.
.. hi ya Serah. Welcome to the thread. You're such a breath of fresh air. These gay atheists are insane tricksters ..

.. don't let my moniker fool you. You see, I have two cats - Leslie & Beau, and, they're both happy. So, Happy Lesbo. These gay atheists always try to make inferences about my sexuality. Sex, sex, sex, that's all they think about. But, like you, Jesus is always in my heart ..

.. do you mind if I ask you a few questions? I hope not.

1. Is that a picture of you and your mom?
2. Are you the younger or older good Christian lady?
3. Are you married?

.. be careful of Martina Navratilover. She's a lesbian who pretends to be a good Christian man. In reality, she's Satan's spawn ..

.. thanks for reading my post ..

Yours in Christ, HL

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#129854
Oct 15, 2012
 
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch...
Senator Avella "offended" at Muslim Parade NYC
The mussies what to make an international law, that I cannot blaspheme their mythology! The same people who flew planes into our buildings, killing over 3,000 innocent people, what to make a fu[king law! KMA!
A group who thinks that they have the right to shoot a little girl, to force rape victims to marry their rapists, to stone little girls to death for wearing makeup! KMA!
They may have the freedom to speak, but they cannot and will not get their way.
Wrong, it was al qaeda terrorist who flew into the twin towers. But hey they were muslim to every one is guilty, right?

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#129855
Oct 15, 2012
 
Richardfs wrote:
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Who is Richard Hawking?
.. who is Howard Roark ??..

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Oct 15, 2012
 
Richardfs wrote:
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Kinky!!!
Seriously she's brilliant.
.. you're just saying that because you want the HL experience ..

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#129857
Oct 15, 2012
 
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>I'm starting to agree with this Serah lady.
.. you're finally wising up. Always agree with the ladies ..

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#129858
Oct 15, 2012
 
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Salvation more important than arm. Mark 9: 43-47.
No. The arm is more important. The need for salvation from being born human is a lie from your church designed to create a sense of fear and dependence in you.

That you think what you just posted is evidence to others that your thinking has become quite deformed by your religious beliefs. Making you think such things can't be good for you, just the priests that you tithe to, obey, and proselytize for. They made you value them and their church more than your arm.

BTW, your book is not an authoritative source to those without faith in it, so citing it is pretty pointless.

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#129859
Oct 15, 2012
 
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Francis Collins is not a Creationist in that he believes in a 6000 year old planet and Adam and Eve. He doesn't - for him, these are myths.
If God is outside of nature, then science can neither prove nor disprove his existence. Atheism itself must therefore be considered a form of blind faith, in that it adopts a belief system that cannot be defended on the basis of pure reason.(Collins, 2006, p.165)

Interesting.....

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Oct 15, 2012
 
Martina Navratilover wrote:
<quoted text>Why should he heal your amputated limb? You don't believe
But you do, and you won't get an amputated limb healed, either.

Your god is indistinguishable from nonexistent. It lets people blaspheme him, it never gave us any useful science, and science has found no evidence of an intelligent designer but plenty that your bible is wrong.

Also, the god still hasn't returned, won't move mountains for you as promised or answer prayers in any scientifically demonstrable way, and has left no indisputable evidence of any miracles.

Your kids get leukemia just as often as atheists' kids, your god doesn't protect us from earthquakes or tsunamis, and its church is evaporating away.

And it doesn't grow limbs back.

Why have you settled for so little? Why do you believe in and even make excuses for this god? How much more invisible does it have to be before you doubt it?

“Humanity's first sin was faith. The first virtue was doubt.”- Mike Huben
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#129861
Oct 15, 2012
 
Forty Seven Percent Nonvoters Elected What USA Is Today:

The 47% nonvoters of this Representative Republic that sit on their dead hands and whine; elected President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

That defies USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit. This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit. And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

President, the Justices they appoint, and Elected Officials hold Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. That gets only product or service.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands is bankrupting USA. Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot afford life and pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.

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#129862
Oct 15, 2012
 
Martina Navratilover wrote:
Prove that your mother loves you.
That's easy.

Once, while visiting her at Leisure World, I heated some coffee in her microwave. I entered "60" and hit start. She had always entered "100," which is converted to "1:00" - same thing - but with one more keystroke.

My mother carried on about how clever and efficient I was for several minutes, even telling a friend of hers in front of me. It was Seinfeld-esque.

That's a mother's love.

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Oct 15, 2012
 
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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If God is outside of nature, then science can neither prove nor disprove his existence. Atheism itself must therefore be considered a form of blind faith, in that it adopts a belief system that cannot be defended on the basis of pure reason.(Collins, 2006, p.165)
Interesting.....
There is no physical or practical evidence for the subject of the paragraph

The very first phrase is open to question. Where does that babble say that god is outside nature? If that first phrase is an assumption or personal opinion then the rest of the passage must also be considered and assumption or personal opinion

It makes assumptions based on misunderstanding of the general nature of atheism.

And the guy questions atheistic reason?

Intersting…

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Ooops - Interesting…

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Oct 15, 2012
 
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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If a god or gods were involved in the creation of the world we find ourselves in, they weren't yours. Yours didn't use a big bang or evolution. Neither did Marduk or Odin.
What did my God use?

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Oct 15, 2012
 
ChristineM wrote:
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There is no physical or practical evidence for the subject of the paragraph
The very first phrase is open to question. Where does that babble say that god is outside nature? If that first phrase is an assumption or personal opinion then the rest of the passage must also be considered and assumption or personal opinion
It makes assumptions based on misunderstanding of the general nature of atheism.
And the guy questions atheistic reason?
Intersting…
Good point. But that's why the first wird of the sentence is IF...

Open your mind a little.

Understand that not everything is or can be in the realm of science.

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Oct 15, 2012
 
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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That's easy.
Once, while visiting her at Leisure World, I heated some coffee in her microwave. I entered "60" and hit start. She had always entered "100," which is converted to "1:00" - same thing - but with one more keystroke.
My mother carried on about how clever and efficient I was for several minutes, even telling a friend of hers in front of me. It was Seinfeld-esque.
That's a mother's love.
No, he said to prove that you love your mother, not tell a story about what a mother's love is...

Prove you love your mother.

Or anything for that matter...

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#129868
Oct 15, 2012
 
Stupid naive people. Simply look in the mirror.
preterism wrote:
<quoted text> What did my God use?

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#129869
Oct 15, 2012
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
Because he never heals an amputee or someone born without a limb. Never a single account of God regrowing a limb for someone. Creating the universe? No problem for God! But regrow a limb on someone? Hey let's not get nuts even God has his limitations like iron chariots
God also hates shrimp. Fact.
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So you expect God to write down every single thing he does when he can't even get you to read what little he does write about. Do you know he raised the dead, and your whinning about him not putting down replacing an amputees arm The iron chariots you talk about is so easy to comprehend so it would be an insult to you if I explained it to you. Listen man just study and you'll find out all about the iron chariots and what he's trying to explain to you about this in the correct perspective, you can do it if you'll just study snd when you get the right sndwer you and I will be proud of your accomplishment.

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Oct 15, 2012
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
Stupid naive people. Simply look in the mirror.
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Please explain more so I can comprehend what you're trying to say.

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