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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Since: Sep 08

Wiley, CO

#129825 Oct 15, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Atheism is not something you believe in. It's merely the absence of belief in deities.
I don't do anything that defines me as an atheist - there are no rituals associated with it.
Except get on here and rail against religion.

I see you changed your tagline after I brought up it doing such a few days ago.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#129826 Oct 15, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Atheism is a negative which cannot be proven and an appeal to ignorance.
*sigh*

1. There's no evidence supporting the existence of a deity.

2. Therefore, there's no reason to believe in one.

3. Therefore, I don't.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#129827 Oct 15, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Ya, IANS.
But Matthew 28:20 says to teach everything & obey.
It doesn't say "force them", "make them" or "require them".
It's a teaching that you don't have to choose to listen to. Nobody's forcing you. Why are you so afraid?
For starters, I missed this post until I saw it above somebody's reply to it. If you don't use the reply function, I will likely miss it, since I search the pages of highly active threads like this one using " ain" to find the posts addressed to me.

Second, nobody's forcing me to listen to Christian proselytizing only because nobody can.

But I listen anyway. I read your posts, for example.

Indoctrinating children is another matter. That's a form of forcing, since it doesn't involve informed consent. I'd like to see that stopped.

I have no fear in this area. I can see that Christian cultural hegemony is waning, and think that this historical arc has enough impetus and momentum to continue as it has until the church has become irrelevant to unbelievers.

Still, I want to help in any way that I can, just as you want to help accomplish the opposite.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#129828 Oct 15, 2012
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text>
I think it's high time we name the Abrahamic deity something more modern, or up to date.
Herschel, Snooky, or Eldon are my top three suggestions.
Bob.

Don't ask.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#129829 Oct 15, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
As America has absolute freedom of religion, the GOD on your dollar bill is ANY god you choose.
Otherwise it'd say: "In Jesus we trust". Which America can't & won't do.
If you had to live with, "We Trust In No Gods" on your money, you'd understand why "In God We Trust" is objectionable to those of us deliberately and indifferently excluded by the sentiment.

If you had to live with, "In Smurfs We Trust" on the currency, you'd understand the embarrassment to those of us who have outgrown such things as Smurfs and gods.

We know that Christians are aware of this, but don't care. You don't either, and you seem more caring than most Christians. How shall we take that? How about when a Christian is offended by what he considers blasphemy or disrespect for his beliefs? Should I care?

Since: Sep 08

Wiley, CO

#129830 Oct 15, 2012
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/articl...

There is money to be made in having the masses worship science as professed by some of its priests. Carbon credits, funding for studies, wild hair experiments and projects to do.

Keep the masses dumb with sophistry and get those collection plates filled up.

“Rising”

Since: Dec 10

Milky Way

#129831 Oct 15, 2012
Double Fine wrote:
<quoted text>
Sure it does. That is because you lack the scientific knowledge to interpret any of the relevant facts.
Think of it this way - would you argue about the technical apsects of a new Ferrari with a mechanical engineer?
The has the stone aged book of hunter gatherer learning , it splains everything DF!

“Rising”

Since: Dec 10

Milky Way

#129833 Oct 15, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
hahahaha! How arrogant!
Why your god and not one from Hindu or the Yanomami or the Trobriand Islanders or anyone???
Every believer in every religion has found the one, true god. You are just like them!
hahahaha
Make Make chose me to carry the sacred egg!

“Rising”

Since: Dec 10

Milky Way

#129834 Oct 15, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Atheism is a negative which cannot be proven and an appeal to ignorance.
lbr you know when you play pin the tail on the donkey .
you're not supposed to pin the tail on yourself right?
Right? n/m

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#129835 Oct 15, 2012
Gate Keeper 1 wrote:
<quoted text>Really, really. Atheism has killed over 200 million people in the last 90 years alone, exceeding all the Holy Wars combined.
Those people died because of religions like Christianity, Stalinism, Islam and Maoism. Worship is always a mistake.

Secular humanists have repudiated all such ideologies of violence, religions of despair, and cults of personality worship. Whereas Stalin, Jehovah, Hitler and Mao all advocated genocide, humanists deplore such violence.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#129836 Oct 15, 2012
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
If you had to live with, "We Trust In No Gods" on your money, you'd understand why "In God We Trust" is objectionable to those of us deliberately and indifferently excluded by the sentiment.
If you had to live with, "In Smurfs We Trust" on the currency, you'd understand the embarrassment to those of us who have outgrown such things as Smurfs and gods.
We know that Christians are aware of this, but don't care. You don't either, and you seem more caring than most Christians. How shall we take that? How about when a Christian is offended by what he considers blasphemy or disrespect for his beliefs? Should I care?
I vote for "In Snorks We Trust!"

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#129837 Oct 15, 2012
preterism wrote:
There's nothing wrong with saying a big bang happen, except it was done by God. God said in the beginning he created the heavens and earth. He created everything to reproduce after it's kind, including Adam and Eve which were created from dust. So having said that I see nothing wrong with the big bang producing life, because the heavens and the earth had the necessary ingredients to produce the big bang which God created with his word. the word being the source for the big bang.
If a god or gods were involved in the creation of the world we find ourselves in, they weren't yours. Yours didn't use a big bang or evolution. Neither did Marduk or Odin.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#129838 Oct 15, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Every knee bows.
Mine won't. It was cut of and incinerated.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#129839 Oct 15, 2012
Double Fine wrote:
<quoted text>
Sure it does. That is because you lack the scientific knowledge to interpret any of the relevant facts.
Think of it this way - would you argue about the technical apsects of a new Ferrari with a mechanical engineer?
DF, you should see the new Pagani.

What a creation.

I'm starting to agree with this Serah lady.

“There is no god!”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#129840 Oct 15, 2012
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>And that dear is the problem with evolutionist, they are not scientists.
BYE, TOO LATE. GOOD NIGHT.
you wouldn't recognize a real scientist ..

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#129841 Oct 15, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sci encetech/article-2217286/Globa l-warming-stopped-16-years-ago -reveals-Met-Office-report-qui etly-released--chart-prove-it. html
There is money to be made in having the masses worship science as professed by some of its priests. Carbon credits, funding for studies, wild hair experiments and projects to do.
Keep the masses dumb with sophistry and get those collection plates filled up.
Serah, your reinforcements have finally arrived.

Take a break and let Dave tilt at the windmills.

“There is no god!”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#129842 Oct 15, 2012
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>
Whatever.... tell theses scientists they are not scientists, it means jack to me 'cause I simply do not believe you. However, I do think you do believe you, but as we previously posted, ignorance is not an excuse.
they are not scientist because creationism is fairy tales and you do not make science from fairy tales and your ignorance and denial doesn't change creationism into science even if you prayed to your god.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#129843 Oct 15, 2012
River Tam wrote:
Don't put your Nativity scene on my government's property and I won't steal your baby jesus doll. It's as simple as that :)
LOL.

In Mexico, they don't put the baby in the creche until Christmas day. Maybe that's why. From http://www.whychristmas.com/cultures/mexico.s... :

"From December 16th to Christmas Eve, children often perform the 'Posada' processions or Posadas. Posada is Spanish for Inn or Lodging. There are nine Posadas. These celebrate the part of the Christmas story where Joseph and Mary looked for a room in an Inn. For the Posadas, the outside of houses are decorated with evergreens, moss and paper lanterns.

"In each Posada, children are given candles and a board, with painted clay figures of Mary riding on a donkey and Joseph, to process round the streets with. They call at the houses of friends and neighbors and sing a song at each home. The song they sing is about Joseph and Mary asking for a room in the house. But the children are told that there is no room in the house and that they must go away.

"Eventually they are told there is room and are welcomed in! When the children go into the house they say prayers of thanks and then they have a party with food, games and fireworks.

"Each night a different house hold the Posada party. At the final Posada on Christmas Eve, a manger and figures of shepherds are put on to the board. When the Posada house has been found, a baby Jesus is put into the manger and then families go to a midnight Church service. After the Church service there are more fireworks to celebrate the start of Christmas."

One of the most obvious differences between Mexican Christmas and American Christmas is that Mexican Christmas is still a desert holiday, whereas American Christmas seems to have been co-opted by Ice Giants from the North Pole. In America, the camels and the sand have been replaced by reindeer and snow. Joseph has been replaced by Santa. Mary has replaced by Frosty the Snowman. Jesus is replaced by elves. And there are no Christmas trees, yule logs, tinsel, Christmas lights, holly wreathes, flocking, or mistletoe - just creches with mangers and Magi.

And the songs about "Joseph and Mary asking for a room in the house" have been replaced by "Jingle Bells" and "Grandma Got Run Over By A Reindeer."

The Mexicans wouldn't understand this at all:
http://www.galesgifts.com/images/_products/ga...

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#129844 Oct 15, 2012
Serah wrote:
Oh, I forgot to reply that Richard Hawking is an atheist.... of renowned fame.
Did you mean Richard Dawkins?

Actually,(Richard) Dawkins is a transitional form between (Charles) Darwin and (Stephen) Hawking. Now we have yet another missing link, this time connecting Richard Dawkins to Stephen Hawking - Richard Hawking.

“There's a feeling I get...”

Since: Jun 11

...when I look to the West

#129845 Oct 15, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
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DF, you should see the new Pagani.
What a creation.
I'm starting to agree with this Serah lady.
The Huyara?

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