Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.
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“Formerly "Richard"”

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Oct 14, 2012
 
Aura Mytha wrote:
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The whole driving force behind existence is way too competitive and the history of Earths organisms and evolutionary path
of predation and right down to the nature of sexual reproduction
screams there was nothing intelligent in the design , or that if there were a creator it was one who relished in the suffering of the creation. I think this so much that if there truly were a creator , it is one of such twisted and awful nature that you could only call this thing a monster.
The struggling history of all living creatures and the devastation's of cosmic , volcanic and atmospheric origin
show the plight of all animal life on Earth to be unguided unaided and entirely resting in a uncertain gamble and resting in the throw of the dice.
For this reason I cannot accept there could be an intelligent designer , and if there was it was what creationists would call evil, and must have met it's own demise. But for all intents and purpose a thing of such terrible nature could not be hidden so well, and indeed would manifest itself within it's creation and all would know the terrible nature and wrath of the monster.
But it simply isn't there to be found , therefore it simply cannot exist.
If there was an intelligent designer why are there so many mistakes? Why would there even be evolution as everything would be perfectly designed for their environment and there would be no need for change.

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Oct 14, 2012
 
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Which god? Ptah?
There is only one true God, as for the others you seem to insist they exsist, I'm sorry to tell you this but they can only be found in the fiction category of your local book store.

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Oct 14, 2012
 
Serah wrote:
Oh, I forgot to reply that Richard Hawking is an atheist.... of renowned fame.
Who is "Richard Hawking"?

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Oct 14, 2012
 
preterism wrote:
<quoted text> There is only one true God, as for the others you seem to insist they exsist, I'm sorry to tell you this but they can only be found in the fiction category of your local book store.
Who is this "one true God", Shu?

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Oh, I forgot to reply that Richard Hawking is an atheist.... of renowned fame.
Richard Hawkings fame is only good to those who believe him, and that's not many. He is famous to the devil for sure. as he is considered by the devil as a true follower whose path we know will eventuslly lead to eternal damnation, such a waste.

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Oct 14, 2012
 
Drew Smith wrote:
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Who is "Richard Hawking"?
Yer, I asked whether or not if she had heard of Steven Hawking and she started prattling on about Richard Hawking instead.(work that one out)

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Who is this "one true God", Shu?
The Gid who created the heaven and earth Adam and Eve are the one's who had sex and started the beginning of msn snd women being able to reproduce.

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Oct 14, 2012
 
preterism wrote:
<quoted text> Richard Hawkings fame is only good to those who believe him, and that's not many. He is famous to the devil for sure. as he is considered by the devil as a true follower whose path we know will eventuslly lead to eternal damnation, such a waste.
Hey dude.

I'm not sure if I have already white-sheeted you.

Sometimes it's hard to remember.

Just in case, let me make sure.

Catcher white sheet is lowered on you.

You no longer exist.

(I do reserve the right to one hahaha, so this may be forthcoming.)

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Oct 14, 2012
 
preterism wrote:
<quoted text> The Gid who created the heaven and earth Adam and Eve are the one's who had sex and started the beginning of msn snd women being able to reproduce.
So it's Ptah then why didn't you say so.

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<quoted text> The Gid who created the heaven and earth Adam and Eve are the one's who had sex and started the beginning of msn snd women being able to reproduce.
WTF, I'll use it now.

Say hi to the Gid who created the heaven and earth Adam and Eve and msn snd women.

Hahaha, what a riot.

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Nope... God is non existent and Houdini is a dead man.
You can quote me on that.
Have you ever picked up a bible and truly taken the time and studied it like you did in school so you could get an A+ on your test paper. I urge you to pick up the bible and try as you and I know you never have Try rhe King Jame or the New King James or the American Standard or new American Standard or my favorite which is the New Living Translation because of the ease it is to read and absorb the information, give it a try as we are talking about saving your soul from eternal separation from God.

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Exactly. Personal experience. Subjective, not objective.
If you are a fan of Collins, then why do you have problems with evolution?
I have no problem with evolution, however I do have a problem believing we are the ancestors of fish or bacteria or alien organisms...

I have no doubts that we are miracles and too miraculous to be the result of some doubtful beginning. But it is not only that, it is the things that have happened also in my life that support and indeed deepen my Faith. The older I get, the more firmly I believe!

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preterism wrote:
<quoted text> Richard Hawkings fame is only good to those who believe him, and that's not many. He is famous to the devil for sure. as he is considered by the devil as a true follower whose path we know will eventuslly lead to eternal damnation, such a waste.
Yeah Richard Hawking is a cryptozoologist who is searching for flying spaghetti monsters, Invisible unicorns , God and a devilishly attractive female to breed with.

Here listen to this ...you will feel better.


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<quoted text>I'd like to know how much time they think it took for a little or big old fishy to grow eyelashes, eyebrows & ears. Did they do this under water? Did their lungs develop under water - requiring them to breathe air and not suck water through their gills or did they clumsily thrash around on land until they grew legs and arms? Were they hairy eyelashing eyebrowing fishies waiting patiently for their legs to grow so they could walk? How long do they think it took for this hairy fish to walk? What did they eat in the meantime? Have they thought about anything logical??
Makes you wonder why your deity would throw a foreskin into the mix and then have its "chosen people" whack it off.

Eh?

Crazy myths.

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You have no proof.
I have more than plenty... I have been keeping records for years :)

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Oct 14, 2012
 
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> What you are is a avid believer , unfortunately however a believer in a bigoted man made book of historical fiction . One that is filled with mythological and supernatural fairy-tales.
Designed to indoctrinate to subjugate put in in line and rule you. So much for your seeing the Ripley's believe it or not parts, you have not only taken the bait you swallowed the hook and are now helplessly a willing member of the bible enslaved my brain club.
There was a day when perhaps men needed this , but that time has passed. You should realize it for what it is , or there would be more talk of equality and more stories of Serah more stories of Mary. But they were women, and the rightful property of men.
Having no rights to share in power or history.
Besides a few of extraordinary circumstance and victim of it.
Look what religion is doing to the world, making us fight each other. It's time to put down your bible and run away from the churches and mosques and synagogs , they are the damnation and destruction of humanity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =r6w2M50_XdkXX
Who said I go to Church?

"John 2:21 But he spake of the temple of his body."

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Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Dawkins. Richard Dawkins...
Yes. He's brilliant. Off on some things, though.
Sorry ~ I got the two of them mixed up LOL

***Hawking: no God behind the Big Bang

UPDATE: Apparently you can now participate in the Times discussion of Hawking’s article, with Richard Dawkins and two Times writers, for free. Go here. Remember, it starts at 9:30 EST, which is ten minutes from this posting.

UPDATE 2: Check out the discussion: Dawkins is making mincemeat of the Times religion editor, who’s bobbing, weaving, and ducking the hard questions. It’s a rout!

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So much for physics revealing “the mind of God.” Lest anybody still think that Stephen Hawking is religious, even in a deistic sense, check out his new book, The Grand Design (coauthored with American physicist Leonard Miodinow), available in the US September 7. Here’s part of Hawkings’s precis, taken from the Amazon listing:

http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2010/... ****

My apologies!

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Makes you wonder why your deity would throw a foreskin into the mix and then have its "chosen people" whack it off.
Eh?
Crazy myths.
http://www.medicinenet.com/circumcision_the_m...

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<quoted text>I have no problem with evolution, however I do have a problem believing we are the ancestors of fish or bacteria or alien organisms...
I have no doubts that we are miracles and too miraculous to be the result of some doubtful beginning. But it is not only that, it is the things that have happened also in my life that support and indeed deepen my Faith. The older I get, the more firmly I believe!
You should have plenty of problems believing we are the ancestors of fish or alien organisms. That would involve time travel and space flight to inhabited worlds, none of which have been discovered yet.

I have a friend missing an arm. Pray for it to grow back.

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preterism wrote:
<quoted text> Have you ever picked up a bible and truly taken the time and studied it like you did in school so you could get an A+ on your test paper. I urge you to pick up the bible and try as you and I know you never have Try rhe King Jame or the New King James or the American Standard or new American Standard or my favorite which is the New Living Translation because of the ease it is to read and absorb the information, give it a try as we are talking about saving your soul from eternal separation from God.
Actually I did , including the ones King James forgot to put in, like the Book of Enoch, The Testament of Solomon , The Kabbalah
The interpretation of Daniel by Newton

http://ourpropheticbible.org/downloads/7AND62...

And others , but I understand something you do not.

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