Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

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#129615 Oct 14, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
1. I didn't say that no scientist believes in God.
2. I said the reason RR can't understand science is b/c of his inability to understand what subjective versus objective reality is.
Some Christians are scientists. But no creationists are scientists. It's impossible to be that ignorant and dishonest while remaining a scientist.
Your words...

"This is why there's no such thing as a "creationist scientist."

Err, a statement saying no such thing means no such thing, does it not?

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#129616 Oct 14, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Hardly. You were told "god did it" and that's as far as you got. You've accepted a fiction, intellectual laziness and built your entire understanding of the world on it.
Totally worthless.
in your eyes, but in my eyes, your statements are totally worthless... and very very lazy indeed

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#129617 Oct 14, 2012
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>I think they stopped reading about science in school.....
Boy are you going to be in for a surprise most of us here have Bsc and Phds in Biology, Math and Physics.

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#129618 Oct 14, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
1. I didn't say that no scientist believes in God.
2. I said the reason RR can't understand science is b/c of his inability to understand what subjective versus objective reality is.
Some Christians are scientists. But no creationists are scientists. It's impossible to be that ignorant and dishonest while remaining a scientist.
Seen the size of the list of scientists who believe in Creation?

Oh wait, you might not know what Creationist means...

***cre·a·tion·ism
&#8194; &#8194;[kree-ey-shuh-niz-u hm] Show IPA
noun
1.
the doctrine that matter and all things were created, substantially as they now exist, by an omnipotent Creator, and not gradually evolved or developed.
2.
( sometimes initial capital letter ) the doctrine that the true story of the creation of the universe is as it is recounted in the Bible, especially in the first chapter of Genesis.
3.
the doctrine that God immediately creates out of nothing a new human soul for each individual born.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/creati... ****

You calling all of them dishonest? What about Francis Collins; calling him dishonest too? LOL......

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#129619 Oct 14, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
Because that's all they can handle. Honest knowledge and study is too hard for them. They'd rather just deceive themselves and others through intellectual dishonesty than actually have to learn something.
They really are like parasites - enjoying all of the benefits of science while failing to understand even the slightest bit of it.
Getting any benefits of scientists?

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#129620 Oct 14, 2012
Serah wrote:
Seen the size of the list of scientists who believe in Creation?
Seen the size of the list of scientists in Project Steve, and what the size of that list translates into when extrapolated to scientists of any name?

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#129621 Oct 14, 2012
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>
Everyone who is seriously engaged in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that the laws of nature manifest the existence of a spirit vastly superior to that of men,.....
No, ever heard of Stephen Hawking?

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#129622 Oct 14, 2012
Richardfs wrote:
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Boy are you going to be in for a surprise most of us here have Bsc and Phds in Biology, Math and Physics.
No I'm not, but just because I believe in GOD does not mean I do not study or am lazy. People don't mind tossing out the insults but for some reason, hate getting the same words back!!

And at least you would be aware of scientists who believe in our Creator, wouldn't you?

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#129623 Oct 14, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
Because that's all they can handle. Honest knowledge and study is too hard for them. They'd rather just deceive themselves and others through intellectual dishonesty than actually have to learn something.
They really are like parasites - enjoying all of the benefits of science while failing to understand even the slightest bit of it.
Such evil and hate.

They will say:

satan: how much did you do for my cause?
unbeliever: I did not believe. I was fooled.
satan: yes, you were a fool.
unbeliever: well, since I was fooled, can I leave?
satan: nope, I did my job, you did not do yours.
atheist: well, I denied there was a God, do I get a reward.
satan: you are a bigger fool. All that evidence, angels whispering in your ears. Your dying grandmother telling you that their is a God, but you wanted this. Sucker.
science Hiding: Ha, you are not real. This is a dream. There is no scientific causation for it. Can't be.
satan: yeah, and your burning butt is not real, but your screaming and pain is very much real.
gay lesbo: Well, I was gay and ruined my family and children's lives. I ignored all scriptures, promoted suicide and AIDS among gays, by not letting them know there was a way out.
satan: you did good, your reward is hell fire and eternal damnation.
gay lesbo: how is that a reward, it is the same as the rest.
satan: how many times were you told by good loving Christians, like Martina, that this was your reward.

unbeliever: damn
atheist: damn
science lesbo: damn
gay lesbo: damn
satan: yes, you are.

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Long Beach, CA

#129624 Oct 14, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
I forgot them again, not that it matters. They were surely true.
I hate boxing with shadows.
You suffer convenient memory lapses when you've been busted.

I'm going to let it go; my road travels along higher ground than yours.

But be more careful in the future.

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#129625 Oct 14, 2012
IGNORANCE :

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Many children in the 1960's, like the kindergartner pictured above, were born with phocomelia as a side effect of the drug thalidomide, resulting in the shortening or absence of limbs.(Photo by Leonard McCombe//Time Life Pictures/Getty Images)

In a post-war era when sleeplessness was prevalent, thalidomide was marketed to a world hooked on tranquilizers and sleeping pills. At the time, one out of seven Americans took them regularly. The demand for sedatives was even higher in some European markets, and the presumed safety of thalidomide, the only non-barbiturate sedative known at the time, gave the drug massive appeal. Sadly, tragedy followed its release, catalyzing the beginnings of the rigorous drug approval and monitoring systems in place at the United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA) today.

Thalidomide first entered the German market in 1957 as an over-the-counter remedy, based on the maker’s safety claims. They advertised their product as “completely safe” for everyone, including mother and child,“even during pregnancy,” as its developers “could not find a dose high enough to kill a rat.” By 1960, thalidomide was marketed in 46 countries, with sales nearly matching those of aspirin.

Around this time, Australian obstetrician Dr. William McBride discovered that the drug also alleviated morning sickness. He started recommending this off-label use of the drug to his pregnant patients, setting a worldwide trend. Prescribing drugs for off-label purposes, or purposes other than those for which the drug was approved, is still a common practice in many countries today, including the U.S. In many cases, these off-label prescriptions are very effective, such as prescribing depression medication to treat chronic pain.

However, this practice can also lead to a more prevalent occurrence of unanticipated, and often serious, adverse drug reactions. In 1961, McBride began to associate this so-called harmless compound with severe birth defects in the babies he delivered. The drug interfered with the babies' normal development, causing many of them to be born with phocomelia, resulting in shortened, absent, or flipper-like limbs. A German newspaper soon reported 161 babies were adversely affected by thalidomide, leading the makers of the drug—who had ignored reports of the birth defects associated with the it—to finally stop distribution within Germany. Other countries followed suit and, by March of 1962, the drug was banned in most countries where it was previously sold.

http://scienceinsociety.northwestern.edu/cont... ***

Is no excuse, is it?

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#129626 Oct 14, 2012
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>
Your words...
"This is why there's no such thing as a "creationist scientist."
Err, a statement saying no such thing means no such thing, does it not?
Be careful and I am serious....Hiding, Happy Lesbo, Kittenkoder and boooots are stalkers....real life and they target christian females online and off. Ask a poster named Pattycake aka yellodog.

Hiding is one of the worse, filled with evil. So much that she has a goal of working to tear ever church, even if she has to burn them down. Her words.

They are dangerous, but they fear intellect and resolve. Hiding is mental unstable, if you pay attention to how she responds to abuse issues and accuses others of it, you will see. That and her being a lesbian, with male, daddy and God hating issues are clear signs.

...Be careful...if she focuses on you, pay attention to how her horns come out because wiccans are witches.

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Since: Sep 12

will tell you the same

#129627 Oct 14, 2012
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>No I'm not, but just because I believe in GOD does not mean I do not study or am lazy. People don't mind tossing out the insults but for some reason, hate getting the same words back!!
And at least you would be aware of scientists who believe in our Creator, wouldn't you?
Good for you.....don't back down, they are Internet cowards.

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Long Beach, CA

#129628 Oct 14, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
1. I didn't say that no scientist believes in God.
2. I said the reason RR can't understand science is b/c of his inability to understand what subjective versus objective reality is.
Some Christians are scientists. But no creationists are scientists. It's impossible to be that ignorant and dishonest while remaining a scientist.
But Serah is not dishonest.

Her ignorance is such, that she is unable to think for herself.

It will sound cruel, I know, but I wonder how she can even take care of her daily needs without assistance.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#129629 Oct 14, 2012
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>No I'm not, but just because I believe in GOD does not mean I do not study or am lazy. People don't mind tossing out the insults but for some reason, hate getting the same words back!!
And at least you would be aware of scientists who believe in our Creator, wouldn't you?
No, you're not lazy Serah.

It's clear that you are trying very hard.

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Since: Sep 12

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#129630 Oct 14, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
1. I didn't say that no scientist believes in God.
2. I said the reason RR can't understand science is b/c of his inability to understand what subjective versus objective reality is.
Some Christians are scientists. But no creationists are scientists. It's impossible to be that ignorant and dishonest while remaining a scientist.
You are just lying,most US scientists are religious and that includes creationist. However, no atheists are scientist, they quickly become agnostic. It is impossible to be atheist ignorant and dishonest while remaining a scientist.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#129631 Oct 14, 2012
Martina Navratilover wrote:
<quoted text>Since most scientists are not atheists, then you must say that you are full of it.
FACTS: A survey conducted in 1969 showed that 35% of scientists did not ....
Now lets use more resent data instead of your 40 year old stuff:-

A recent survey (June 2009) of over 2,500 U.S. scientists shows that the scientific community has a very different view of God from society as a whole. Only 33% of scientists believe in "God" while another 18% believe in a "universal spirit" or "higher power".(See source 1.) The study concluded that scientists are less likely to believe in a "God" or "Higher Power" as the general public.

It can be broken down even further by the different areas of study:

Biological/Medical Field: 32% believe in "God", another 19% don't believe in "God" but believe in a "Higher Power", and 41% do not believe in either.

Chemistry: 41% believe in "God", another 14% don't believe in "God" but believe in a "Higher Power", and 39% do not believe in either.

Geoscience: 30% believe in "God", another 20% don't believe in "God" but believe in a "Higher Power", and 47% do not believe in either.

Physics/Astronomy: 29% believe in "God", another 14% don't believe in "God" but believe in a "Higher Power", and 46% do not believe in either.

http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/8...

GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT.

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#129632 Oct 14, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
Totally
I am quite totally awesome,thank you much. Clearly. You were told "god didn't do it" and that's as far as you got. You've accepted a fiction, intellectual laziness and built your entire understanding of the world on science fiction.
Totally worthless.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#129633 Oct 14, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
Because that's all they can handle. Honest knowledge and study is too hard for them. They'd rather just deceive themselves and others through intellectual dishonesty than actually have to learn something.
They really are like parasites - enjoying all of the benefits of science while failing to understand even the slightest bit of it.
ABSO(bloody)LUTELY.

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#129634 Oct 14, 2012
Martina Navratilover wrote:
<quoted text>You are just lying,most US scientists are religious and that includes creationist. However, no atheists are scientist, they quickly become agnostic. It is impossible to be atheist ignorant and dishonest while remaining a scientist.
Backwards projection. The percentage of atheists among scientists is much higher than the percentage of atheists in the general populace.

What you should have said is that there are no honest informed creationists, a fact that has been demonstrated many times over.

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