Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Key difference, we have questions because we want to learn, you lack questions because you would prefer to live in a happy little bubble.
It is proven by science that the chicken had to arrive before the egg purely and simply due to the fact that the egg needs proteins to - actually, here is the info;

British scientists claim to have solved one of the great mysteries of life, the universe and everything in it: The chicken came before the egg, they say, and they're not mincing words.

"It had long been suspected that the egg came first, but now we have the scientific proof that shows that in fact the chicken came first," Sheffield University's Dr Colin Freeman, according to a report in the Metro.

Researchers from Scotland and England used a supercomputer called HECToR to look in such detail at a chicken eggshell that they were able to determine the vital role of a protein used to kick-start the egg's formation.

That protein is only found, wait for it... inside a chicken.

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-205_162-6676542.h...

How did a chicken create an egg? From which fishy or bacteria do you think a chicken evolved from? Obviously, a rooster is required to fertilize the egg; how do you think evolution created the chicken and the rooster and how do you think evolution gave the chicken the necessary ability to create, lay and hatch an egg? At what point did the chicken know it had to sit on its fertile eggs to hatch them??

***Freeman, who worked on HECToR with counterparts at Edinburgh's Warwick University, said the protein had been identified earlier by scientists and was known to be linked to egg formation, "but by examining it closely we have been able to see how it controls the process," he added, describing it as a catalyst.

Professor John Harding, who also took part in the research, told Metro the discovery could have other applications.

"Understanding how chickens make shells is fascinating in itself, but can also give clues towards designing new materials." he said.***

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Key difference, we have questions because we want to learn, you lack questions because you would prefer to live in a happy little bubble.
how many questions have you asked about the beginning and how life began? Have you questioned where birds came from? Have you questioned caterpillars and butterflies? Have you questioned anything at all or just blindly accepted what you have accepted because anything else is too hard???

The big bang theory.... when do you think they will come up with a real name, one that is not to be laughed at? Or do you think they have outgrown the old ideas and are working on new ones?

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See? More questions...
The only answer they'll give you is how stupid & ignorant you are & that science is "obviously not for you"...
LMAO these athitards are hilarious!
I think they stopped reading about science in school.....

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<quoted text>how many questions have you asked about the beginning and how life began? Have you questioned where birds came from? Have you questioned caterpillars and butterflies? Have you questioned anything at all or just blindly accepted what you have accepted because anything else is too hard???
The big bang theory.... when do you think they will come up with a real name, one that is not to be laughed at? Or do you think they have outgrown the old ideas and are working on new ones?
I find it strange that they use something like the big bang theory, which is unproven, to "prove" so many things & pose so many arguments...

They do the same with things like dark matter...

I understand that these people aren't scientists, although some claim to be (LOL).

I've noticed what they're really good at is copy/paste.

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You have an open invitation to come and visit this historic city.
I don't want too see the city! I want to meet the man who claimed that I was afraid of him! LOL!

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Serah wrote:
<quoted text>It is proven by science that the chicken had to arrive before the egg purely and simply due to the fact that the egg needs proteins to - actually, here is the info;
British scientists claim to have solved one of the great mysteries of life, the universe and everything in it: The chicken came before the egg, they say, and they're not mincing words.
"It had long been suspected that the egg came first, but now we have the scientific proof that shows that in fact the chicken came first," Sheffield University's Dr Colin Freeman, according to a report in the Metro.
Researchers from Scotland and England used a supercomputer called HECToR to look in such detail at a chicken eggshell that they were able to determine the vital role of a protein used to kick-start the egg's formation.
That protein is only found, wait for it... inside a chicken.
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-205_162-6676542.h...
How did a chicken create an egg? From which fishy or bacteria do you think a chicken evolved from? Obviously, a rooster is required to fertilize the egg; how do you think evolution created the chicken and the rooster and how do you think evolution gave the chicken the necessary ability to create, lay and hatch an egg? At what point did the chicken know it had to sit on its fertile eggs to hatch them??
***Freeman, who worked on HECToR with counterparts at Edinburgh's Warwick University, said the protein had been identified earlier by scientists and was known to be linked to egg formation, "but by examining it closely we have been able to see how it controls the process," he added, describing it as a catalyst.
Professor John Harding, who also took part in the research, told Metro the discovery could have other applications.
"Understanding how chickens make shells is fascinating in itself, but can also give clues towards designing new materials." he said.***
Yeah but did roast chicken come before scrambled egg?
Now that is the question. lol

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Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
Einstein is probably the best known and most highly revered scientist of the twentieth century, and is associated with major revolutions in our thinking about time, gravity, and the conversion of matter to energy (E=mc2). Although never coming to belief in a personal God, he recognized the impossibility of a non-created universe. The Encyclopedia Britannica says of him: "Firmly denying atheism, Einstein expressed a belief in "Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the harmony of what exists." This actually motivated his interest in science, as he once remarked to a young physicist: "I want to know how God created this world, I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts, the rest are details." Einstein's famous epithet on the "uncertainty principle" was "God does not play dice" - and to him this was a real statement about a God in whom he believed. A famous saying of his was "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/scie...
"The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weakness, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still purely primitive, legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."
-- Albert Einstein

"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."

From a letter Einstein wrote in English, dated 24 March 1954.

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No. The evidence of the Bible foretelling evolution 2,000 years ago.
Look it up, "creation through evolution".
Genesis even talks about Pangea.
Where? Some claim that the bible talks about spaceman, too! Some people say that you should handle poisonous snakes, talk in tongues. Other "christians" claim all that is bullshit. Who is right? You?

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FDR Social Security Program:
The majority of 53% of US the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the 47% nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; insist on electing President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.
That support FDR Social Security Program designed to defy USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.
Demanding every Stockholder, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit. This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider.
Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit. And enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.
President, the Justices they appoint, and Elected Officials hold Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.
To fund Illegal drug users and Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.
Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. That gets only product or service.
Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.
Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands is bankrupting USA. Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.
America’s grandchildren’s children cannot pay this debt in a hundred million years.
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I find it strange that they use something like the big bang theory, which is unproven, to "prove" so many things & pose so many arguments...
They do the same with things like dark matter...
I understand that these people aren't scientists, although some claim to be (LOL).
I've noticed what they're really good at is copy/paste.
I think we are all searching for the Prime Cause. The Big Bang is a poor substitute for God in my book, because could we not ask what caused the Big Bang and so forth and so on. Geez.

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Serah wrote:
<quoted text>I think they stopped reading about science in school.....
How long were you in the nut house?

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"The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weakness, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still purely primitive, legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."
-- Albert Einstein
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."
From a letter Einstein wrote in English, dated 24 March 1954.
Everyone who is seriously engaged in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that the laws of nature manifest the existence of a spirit vastly superior to that of men, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.

http://www.faithinterface.com.au/science-chri...

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How long were you in the nut house?
I was never in the nut house

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I think we are all searching for the Prime Cause. The Big Bang is a poor substitute for God in my book, because could we not ask what caused the Big Bang and so forth and so on. Geez.
OK sock, let's see your faith turn water into wine. If you don't have enough faith to do that; maybe you should be doing something else with your time.

jesus claimed that anything you ask for, will be granted, if it glorifies the father, yet no christian is willing to put their faith out there. Why is that?

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Serah wrote:
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Everyone who is seriously engaged in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that the laws of nature manifest the existence of a spirit vastly superior to that of men, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.
http://www.faithinterface.com.au/science-chri...
Since most scientist are atheist, I would have to say that you are full of it.

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They were facts, not insults.
Guilty conscience?
Work on yourself. I'm good.
What facts are those?

Last you wrote, you had forgotten what you said.

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Dude, just come out of the closet already. Sheesh, four posts, and those were just the last four I read, and you have to bring gay into it when no mention was made.
I see that you must come out of the closet, since you try to keep the word gay in it. If he had said rapist, you would not have mentioned it. Oops, he did and you did not say anything about. If you want the word gay kept in the closet, then you should get in the closet with it. People respond to your dishonest and hate filled posts, based on your pattern. Change your pattern. Try providing some evidence, instead of your divisional derived posts at attempting to make people feel that if they don't agree, then they are dumb. It fails with you, because your position is not agreeable.

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TheBlackSheep wrote:
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Since most scientist are atheist, I would have to say that you are full of it.
Since most scientists are not atheists, then you must say that you are full of it.

FACTS: A survey conducted in 1969 showed that 35% of scientists did not believe that God existed.2 In contrast, recent surveys on religious belief have shown that 90 percent of Americans believe in God and 40 percent attend a place of worship weekly. 100 MINUS 35 = 65% WHO BELIEVE.

IN FACT, IN ANY GIVEN FIELD, THE HIGHEST PERCENT WAS 41 AND THE LOWEST 27% WHO DID NOT BELIEVE IN GOD. FLIPS THE NUMBERS AND YOU WILL SEE HWO MANY BELIEVE.

Overall, 75% of professors contacted completed the survey. Among the different disciplines, disbelief in the existence of God was not correlated with any particular area of expertise:
Disbelief in God by Academics4Discipline %
Physics 40.8
Chemistry 26.6
Biology 41.0
Overall 37.6
Sociology 34.0
Economics 31.7
Political Science 27.0
Psychology 33.0
Overall 31.2

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TheBlackSheep wrote:
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OK sock, let's see your faith turn water into wine. If you don't have enough faith to do that; maybe you should be doing something else with your time.
jesus claimed that anything you ask for, will be granted, if it glorifies the father, yet no christian is willing to put their faith out there. Why is that?
SO,NOW YOU ADMIT, that you are Belia or satan. He tried to tell Jesus to do similar things for his amusement. Why don't you read the 3 temptations of Christ by satan, if you wanted to know? Clue, it is found in the New Testament.

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