Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

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#129378 Oct 13, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =1zRAZ_IehjEXX
I miss that show.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#129379 Oct 13, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
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Sweets, these words were taken right out of your reference. These are the words of creative imaginations of science.
{evidence to suggest that}
{might have given rise to the}
I see in the fossil record a horseshoe crab 500 mya. Todayís horseshoe crab looks identical. Some minor changes noted by biologist, ok no problem. Basically the horseshoe crab has remained unchanged.
The earth and the oceans have changed a lot in 500 million years. Yet the horseshoe crab remains unchanged even though itís environment was and is constantly changing.
If you were looking at our oceans from the horseshoe crap nebula, would our oceans look to have changed much?

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#129380 Oct 13, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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BUT!! The self-proclaimed smart people here say that "a species evolves, not an individual".....
A species "evolving" to a better suited species is impossible. ONE individual wolud havebto start the chain reaction...
It's okay. Fortunately, you aren't a scientist.

You should stick to prayers.

Since: Jul 10

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#129381 Oct 13, 2012
Richardfs wrote:
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Then why there no commandment saying "Thou shall not own slaves"?
God does not intervene in there lives, just like when they demanded from God to have a King to rule them and God said this isn't a good choice but they wanted a King and got one. God used Divine interventin when he destroyed all the people with the flood, except for Noah and his family and there wives. God does not intervene in your life now just as there are no more miracles as they ceased when the Apostles died. The israelites just like wetoday do stuoid things even when we know we have God watching over us, we still at times want and decide to do it our own way instead of God's way. God speaks of the israelite as being a hard headed people in the bible, as we are still like that today, not much has changed except God doesn't talk to us like he did with Adam, which he did in person and then after that he talked to people chosen, like the the Prophets and finally, he talks to us now throgh the bible.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#129382 Oct 13, 2012
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text>Try eating the foliage of a potato or tomato plant the next time you feel adventurous.
Good point, because eating the tomato does not kill the main part of the plant.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#129383 Oct 13, 2012
preterism wrote:
<quoted text> You obviously don't know that it wasn't God'd ideal to have slaves. it was man. God made it easier on the slaved by giving the isralited rules for them concerning there slaves.
By this logic, it would have made it even more easy on the slaves if god had told someone slavery was an abomination and immoral?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#129384 Oct 13, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>It is called a hypothesis.
Right. Got it.
[QUOTE} Hawking open says he does not know if this is the fact of what happened.[/QUOTE] I'm following...
He says it is a mathematical possibility.
But not fact? huh
Religion on the other hand claims to know absolutely 100% that a god did it.
Wrong. I know with a 100% certainty.
So science does make up possibilities and then tests them and looks for evidence to see if it actually happened.
couple of big words there...
If evidence shows it to be true, it may then become a scientific theory.

there's more of them big 'uns...
Do you know the difference between a scientific theory and a hypothesis?

you had me at hello.
I am not being sarcastic, I just need to know how to explain this to you.
How can you explain to me what I already understand?

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#129385 Oct 13, 2012
preterism wrote:
<quoted text> God does not intervene in there lives,
You mean, after the flood or after jonah? Or maybe after Jericho? No, it would have to be after he came down and had the jews kill him.

When did he stop intervening?

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#129386 Oct 13, 2012
preterism wrote:
<quoted text> I answered it, but obviously you're unwilling to read the bible.
I have. What you fail to understand is it's a myth.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#129387 Oct 13, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
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You are like that damn cat that ate the parrot.
Thereís feathers sticking out of your mouth while you shake your head no.
Still no post numbers of where I have lied.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#129388 Oct 13, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Not sure what the point the person who said this is trying to make.
Scanning the previous posts, I think they are trying to tell you that the individual does not change in a way that is after birth. They are changing due to the way their genes mixed or mutated. So at the conception they were different than the parent. If the mutation is conducive for the environment, the change may be passed on many times by its offspring and so on.
So a fish without legs can give birth to a fish WITH legs?
Many terms and phrases that science uses is not always exact to the common lexicon of lay persons. So the phrase 'a species evolves' may not be what you think it means.
Ya, because the words "a", "species" & "evolves" are very complex words that only scientists understand...
Sometimes it is hard for us to explain in terms all can understand.
There are arguments within the evolution community on some points, so what one person claims is not necessarily what is of the whole of the scientific community.
"the evolution community"? Are those, like, smart people?
I certainly do not claim to know all about evolution.
Good.
I would seriously doubt anyone here would claim they know all about evolution.
Nobody does, that's the point. It's a theory of guesses & facts all compiled together. People with an anti-theist agenda will call it "fact". At least you're a little more honest.
So do not expect me to always back what another evolutionist says.
And if I am corrected or disputed, I remain open to be corrected.
As do I. I'm don't think I'm MrKnowItAll... I'm not.

I'm just a squirrel tryin to get a nut.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#129389 Oct 13, 2012
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text>
It's
I know, honey. I know...

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#129390 Oct 13, 2012
preterism wrote:
<quoted text> It' tragic to see people who are well educated in english and how to write so but can't grasp what the bible says. It's going to take more than proper grammer to gwt to heaven, but I commend you on your earthly scholastic status. You may please your fellow man on your expertise in the use of proper grammar I hate to say you're batting zero with God, and that's really sad and very tragic.
No what is tragic is seeing so called adults who still believe in myths and fairy tales.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#129391 Oct 13, 2012
preterism wrote:
<quoted text> God does not intervene in there lives....
You have got to be joking... your god myth did "not intervene in there lives"??

Then why the commandments in the first place? Why the so called flood?

I don't know about you but killing somebody tends to intervene in their life.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#129392 Oct 13, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I know, honey. I know...
Your Jesus is showing.

Don't forget the Jesus and the naked guy in the garden.

“Don't be so dichotomous.”

Since: Jan 11

Embrace the grey.

#129393 Oct 13, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>How is it going? I have been on the political debate thread.
Someone on there just told me, non believers are superstitious for being non believers.
I await him to explain that one.
I'm just crossing my fingers that he's wrong.

LOL

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#129394 Oct 13, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>By this logic, it would have made it even more easy on the slaves if god had told someone slavery was an abomination and immoral?
Hummmm logic??? godbot??? I think one would need a lot of LSD to see the connection.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#129395 Oct 13, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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....I'm don't think I'm MrKnowItAll... I'm not.
....
We know.

“Don't be so dichotomous.”

Since: Jan 11

Embrace the grey.

#129396 Oct 13, 2012
scaritual wrote:
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It's been shown through some preliminary tests that trees and plants react when another plant or tree in the same forest or field sustain damage or injury. Nothing conclusive, but it's interesting.
I know this.
Trees will try to kill you if they can when you cut them<=(exaggerated and anthropomorphic statement, not to imply it is reality).
They do, however, sometimes appear to do things completely unexpected when felling them.
Sinister ba5tards
I never cut one without a well defined and clear path of escape.
I brought down a maple today. I'm glad we had a cable in that one to pull it down.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#129397 Oct 13, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Hawkins sucks in logic.
<quoted text> Energy used in creation by what? Something has to use it. Where did energy come from? Energy is something, not nothing.
Hawking explains that in the vacuum of all space ever tested, there is energy. We call this vacuum of space empty and nothing. Yes, it is not a good way to describe what is space, but that is our flawed language, not a flaw of the hypothesis Hawking offers.
In other words, in science, the word 'nothing' is relative. Nothing can have energy, in the way man uses the word.

"Were did it come from"? I explained that. The hypothesis says it is due to the forces in the vacuum of space.
It must have always been due to the vacuum of space always existing.

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