Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

Since: Sep 10

Arcadia, CA

#129168 Oct 12, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Not at all. It isn't working for your type, as evinced by the quality of arguments and postings you do. Constant reference to what "they" say, and little if any evidence of individual thought. Gee, you guys can't even hallucinate on your own. So you just babble in chorus, reading from the Grand Books of Holy Hallucinations..
It's worse to be a coward, like you Dave.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#129169 Oct 12, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Yes, Eagle, gay is a lifestyle choice. People one day wake up and think "I want to be openly mocked during my elementary and high school, then denied access to marriage in my adulthood and hated by unreasonable people." Then they just amazingly change their sexuality. I guess they want to be discriminated against, depressed and enjoy higher suicide rates in their club b/c people tell them they are wrong.
But, no, Eagle, creationist "Christians" are science deniers. Evolution is the framework theory of all the biological sciences. To deny it is to deny biological science. To deny the Big Bang and physics models of the universe is to deny science (something the Catholics don't do! Unreal, right!).
Not all Christians are literal creationists, though. The majority don't need to force fit their God into a world not supported by the evidence science has uncovered. Some of these Christians are scientists.
Mormons are nice. I like them. When they came to my door in the US, they asked if they could do my dishes. What a treat! Here in Japan, they are known as liars, though. They promise to provide "free English lessons" to draw people into their church - you can guess what happens then. Carrying out this "business model" has led to them being almost universally despised in Japan.
Sometimes they talk to me. When they find out I speak English, wow, are they happy! Then they get to hear about my atheist views and how rude I find them being in my culture, trying to change us. I'm not a super nice person when my private space is invaded at a train station by those promoting religion and lies (re: English lessons).
Atheists have never walked up do your door, right? I can't imagine going to your house and saying "hey, I'd like to talk to you about giving up your cherished beliefs."
(it's worth mentioning that here, this thread, is listed in the atheist forum, but I see it as neutral ground, where we can banter - so here, you are open game! mwahahahahaha)
I tend to believe gays are born that way in some circumstances. Other circumstances I believe they are shaped by their environment. Thatís just my observation.

Your right atheist just donít show up at the front door, sort of. They are much more subtle. They use Schools & Universities as a platform. Then thereíre the icons that put their message into print and sell their message.

Magazines, books, college professors, comedians, signs, all have used the print media to promote their message of atheism. Iím like you and others in that I donít like my space being violated by personal bids to buy or accept something.

Usually when someone is trying to sell you something by approaching you without an invitation. They are running or promoting a scam. No matter how good it sounds itís probably a scam. Unless itís the Girl Scouts selling cookies. Their cookies are worth buying, lol.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#129170 Oct 12, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Ack! Mother, I am slain!
"...and Fortinbras, knee-deep in Danes,
Lived happy ever after..."

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#129171 Oct 12, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
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It's worse to be a coward, like you Dave.
So you very clumsily take an jab at him by calling him a coward. What else can you do to inflict a injury other than vainly cast slurs? Your vain attempt to punch him makes you look like a bully. We all know what bullies are. Theyíre cowards trying to assert themselves as powerful.

Were you the one that told me to take the high road? What a fine example you set for all of us here on topix. Whatís ironic you are a officer of the court.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#129172 Oct 12, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
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Illinois?
The land of Lincoln.

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#129173 Oct 12, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
Infidel! Odin was a homeless wizard always walking here and there looking like Gandalf! Where Zeus rules mount Olympus to this very day.
Zeus bested Kronos himself and locked him forever in Tartarus! Just say no the the walking with wolf Odin and join Zeus on mount Olympus.
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Odin is a verb. A redneck term meaning, "I odin some money."

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#129174 Oct 12, 2012
If macro evolution is real.

The horseshoe crab would be building and riding jet skis by now. Or perhaps even something more advanced like the hovercraft.

Oh but they stopped evolving just 500 million years ago. Theyíre not a good example of this evolution thing.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#129175 Oct 12, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
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I tend to believe gays are born that way in some circumstances. Other circumstances I believe they are shaped by their environment. Thatís just my observation.
Your right atheist just donít show up at the front door, sort of. They are much more subtle. They use Schools & Universities as a platform. Then thereíre the icons that put their message into print and sell their message.
Magazines, books, college professors, comedians, signs, all have used the print media to promote their message of atheism. Iím like you and others in that I donít like my space being violated by personal bids to buy or accept something.
Usually when someone is trying to sell you something by approaching you without an invitation. They are running or promoting a scam. No matter how good it sounds itís probably a scam. Unless itís the Girl Scouts selling cookies. Their cookies are worth buying, lol.
The print media. Kind of like "In God We Trust" being printed on money? Atheists can't exactly say, "That offends me so I'm not going to use that money". Talk about a scam.

Since: Feb 08

Tampa, FL

#129177 Oct 12, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
If macro evolution is real.
The horseshoe crab would be building and riding jet skis by now.
Why? That living organisms *can* evolve does not mean that they must evolve to become a significantly different organism, and there is no expectation that they would if their environment puts no pressure upon them to do so.

Your argument is like saying that it's impossible that any human beings can migrate thousands of miles over numerous generations just because you've found some people whose ancestors have not left their original town for hundreds or thousands of years.

Since: Mar 11

Florence, KY

#129178 Oct 12, 2012
You know I wonder how the world would be today if say Zeus and Odin were still the primary gods?

Believers of the different gods meet up, state why their God is better, have a few drinks, arm wrestling matches with the victor proclaiming his/her God was the better after all, more drinks and some roasted meat, finally upon leaving the debate they both agree that Odin and Zeus are both awesome gods who work together and are probably shaking their heads at how their earthly believers had behaved this night.

Each walks home thinking with a chuckle, that Zeus/Odin worshipper can't handle their booze yet we must do this again.
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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You might be right about that. Hey, look! Sunset!
Die heretic!!!
<pulls out knife>

Since: Mar 11

Florence, KY

#129179 Oct 12, 2012
You should deny gravity next. If gravity is real how can jets fly for hours over oceans even! How do birds fly if gravity exists? If gravity were real we would all be crawling on the ground barely able to stand up!

Just thought I'd help your next argument out you flat earth reject.
Eagle12 wrote:
If macro evolution is real.
The horseshoe crab would be building and riding jet skis by now. Or perhaps even something more advanced like the hovercraft.
Oh but they stopped evolving just 500 million years ago. Theyíre not a good example of this evolution thing.

Since: Sep 10

Soledad, CA

#129180 Oct 12, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
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So you very clumsily take an jab at him by calling him a coward. What else can you do to inflict a injury other than vainly cast slurs? Your vain attempt to punch him makes you look like a bully. We all know what bullies are. Theyíre cowards trying to assert themselves as powerful.
Were you the one that told me to take the high road? What a fine example you set for all of us here on topix. Whatís ironic you are a officer of the court.
If Dave Nelson displayed cowardice, do you believe it's improper for me to point it out?

That's a yes or no question.
_Chartreuse_

France

#129181 Oct 12, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
You know I wonder how the world would be today if say Zeus and Odin were still the primary gods?
Believers of the different gods meet up, state why their God is better, have a few drinks, arm wrestling matches with the victor proclaiming his/her God was the better after all, more drinks and some roasted meat, finally upon leaving the debate they both agree that Odin and Zeus are both awesome gods who work together and are probably shaking their heads at how their earthly believers had behaved this night.
Each walks home thinking with a chuckle, that Zeus/Odin worshipper can't handle their booze yet we must do this again.
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U R shitinabutthole 12:16

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#129182 Oct 12, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
hahahahahahahaa!!! How can you be this ignorant and stupid?!? How is it possible??? How can you not understand G_O_D's joke??? Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh!!!!!!!!
Here's a link you might be able to use:
&fe ature=related

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#129183 Oct 12, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
Usually when someone is trying to sell you something by approaching you without an invitation. They are running or promoting a scam.
Have you ever seen the scripture that exhorts believers to approach others without an invitation and promote Jesus and Christianity?

"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost" - Matthew 28:19

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#129184 Oct 12, 2012
If living organisms *can* evolve, but not necessarily *do* evolve, based on "environmental pressure"... I got one question...
...
...Why the f_ck would plants evolve???

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#129185 Oct 12, 2012
lmao Give...
"if gravity is real, how can jets fly?"
...
Seriously?
Are you one of those "smart" atheists, too?
lol

“MEET ROSEMARY-She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#129186 Oct 12, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
If living organisms *can* evolve, but not necessarily *do* evolve, based on "environmental pressure"... I got one question...
...
...Why the f_ck would plants evolve???
.. why does religion evolve ??..

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#129187 Oct 12, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>I don't think many people actively disdain religious people, and I personally have no problem with a personal belief in god.
I do, however, take issue with those who make it their personal mission to spread their belief - a behavior that is highly encouraged in certain religions, christianity being one of them. And I am especially against those who try to impose the archaic notions of their religion on science and social policy. If someone wants to think that we are magical creations and that evolution is false, or if someone wants to think that gays shouldn't have equal rights, that's fine so long as they remain personal beliefs. They are stupid personal beliefs, but they are personal nonetheless. It's when people make it their mission to impose their beliefs on everyone else that it becomes a problem.
Why would you have a problem with a Christian? as a true Christian you are to live a quiet, humble productive life. There is but one true church? and that would be the Church of Christ, Romans 16:16, Mark 16:16. Study Acts 2 and it will tell you when the church was started and how to become a Cheistian. It will tell you how God wants us to worship him, which is in spirit and truth.

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#129188 Oct 12, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
You should deny gravity next. If gravity is real how can jets fly for hours over oceans even! How do birds fly if gravity exists? If gravity were real we would all be crawling on the ground barely able to stand up!
Just thought I'd help your next argument out you flat earth reject.
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Every time you jump, you experience gravity. It pulls you back down to the ground. Without gravity, you'd float off into the atmosphere -- along with all of the other matter on Earth.

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