Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#129114 Oct 11, 2012
Gate Keeper 1 wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, the
Hey, thanks for reading!

Gosh, if I am 15, you must be ashamed of yourself! You get pummeled every time you post. A 15 year old knows more about science than you do. Hell, I've forgotten more about science than you could have ever learned if you lived to be 900 years old.

And your writing sucks. Not only is it indicative of serious psychiatric issues - you really, really need help - but of a deeply impoverished education. You can barely write grammatical sentences. Your spelling cannot be called such.

The one thing you get right is to read each and every post of mine. Well done! Little by little, you are exposing yourself to information. And you read other poster's writings, too! From the good Al, you are learning Christianity. From DoubleFine, humility. From Catcher, how to be a gentleman. From IANS, how thoughtless your religion is (give it up!). From Black Thunder, just how unintelligent you are (but keep trying~chin up!). From HL, how to love. From Sharkey, wit and laughter. And many others offer you helpful advice, comments, suggestions for your life.

All these posters, here to teach you. We're so happy you're reading us. Trust me, we're not reading you.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#129117 Oct 11, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, Eagle, gay is a lifestyle choice. People one day wake up and think "I want to be openly mocked during my elementary and high school, then denied access to marriage in my adulthood and hated by unreasonable people." Then they just amazingly change their sexuality. I guess they want to be discriminated against, depressed and enjoy higher suicide rates in their club b/c people tell them they are wrong.
But, no, Eagle, creationist "Christians" are science deniers. Evolution is the framework theory of all the biological sciences. To deny it is to deny biological science. To deny the Big Bang and physics models of the universe is to deny science (something the Catholics don't do! Unreal, right!).
Not all Christians are literal creationists, though. The majority don't need to force fit their God into a world not supported by the evidence science has uncovered. Some of these Christians are scientists.
Mormons are nice. I like them. When they came to my door in the US, they asked if they could do my dishes. What a treat! Here in Japan, they are known as liars, though. They promise to provide "free English lessons" to draw people into their church - you can guess what happens then. Carrying out this "business model" has led to them being almost universally despised in Japan.
Sometimes they talk to me. When they find out I speak English, wow, are they happy! Then they get to hear about my atheist views and how rude I find them being in my culture, trying to change us. I'm not a super nice person when my private space is invaded at a train station by those promoting religion and lies (re: English lessons).
Atheists have never walked up do your door, right? I can't imagine going to your house and saying "hey, I'd like to talk to you about giving up your cherished beliefs."
(it's worth mentioning that here, this thread, is listed in the atheist forum, but I see it as neutral ground, where we can banter - so here, you are open game! mwahahahahaha)
You always say something some of us think and feel.

But you do it so much better....

Smooch.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#129119 Oct 11, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey, thanks for reading!
Gosh, if I am 15, you must be ashamed of yourself! You get pummeled every time you post. A 15 year old knows more about science than you do. Hell, I've forgotten more about science than you could have ever learned if you lived to be 900 years old.
And your writing sucks. Not only is it indicative of serious psychiatric issues - you really, really need help - but of a deeply impoverished education. You can barely write grammatical sentences. Your spelling cannot be called such.
The one thing you get right is to read each and every post of mine. Well done! Little by little, you are exposing yourself to information. And you read other poster's writings, too! From the good Al, you are learning Christianity. From DoubleFine, humility. From Catcher, how to be a gentleman. From IANS, how thoughtless your religion is (give it up!). From Black Thunder, just how unintelligent you are (but keep trying~chin up!). From HL, how to love. From Sharkey, wit and laughter. And many others offer you helpful advice, comments, suggestions for your life.
All these posters, here to teach you. We're so happy you're reading us. Trust me, we're not reading you.
But I'm reading you!

Hahaha.

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#129121 Oct 11, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
You always say something some of us think and feel.
But you do it so much better....
Smooch.
Thanks, pal.

I say that on behalf of everyone who enjoy's Hiding's posts.

Without that second sentence, this could have been AWKWARD.

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#129122 Oct 11, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
But I'm reading you!
Hahaha.
Yaaaaaay! Honestly, nothing makes me happier :)

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#129123 Oct 11, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks, pal.
I say that on behalf of everyone who enjoy's Hiding's posts.
Without that second sentence, this could have been AWKWARD.
Thank you, Tide!

Wow, just as I click to reply to your post, an earthquake strikes! My house is shaking and twisting!

Just a little one, now it's over.

I sure hope Gatekeeper reads your posts, too. He could learn sooooooooooooooooo much, yes he can!

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#129127 Oct 11, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you, Tide!
Wow, just as I click to reply to your post, an earthquake strikes! My house is shaking and twisting!
Just a little one, now it's over.
I sure hope Gatekeeper reads your posts, too. He could learn sooooooooooooooooo much, yes he can!
I'm glad you felt it.

I wasn't sure it would make it through.

My aim has been off lately. I've been doing rainbows a lot, not too many earthquakes. I've got a volcanic eruption in a few days. That'll be sweet.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#129130 Oct 11, 2012
Gate Keeper 1 wrote:
<quoted text>....that is all I read.....
^^^^^^Comic Books, Chick Tracts and Watchtower.^^^^^^

You're a moron, Viking.

Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#129131 Oct 11, 2012
I am a gift from God? Well you are indeed lucky I grace you with my presence. And I think it's McCain btw.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
HL - Liberty IS a gift from God.
Funny that you quote Mitt. Why not Obama?
"McCane hasn't asked me about my Muslim religion"...

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#129132 Oct 11, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm glad you felt it.
I wasn't sure it would make it through.
My aim has been off lately. I've been doing rainbows a lot, not too many earthquakes. I've got a volcanic eruption in a few days. That'll be sweet.
hahaha!

Be careful with volcanoes, though. If you make it too big in Hawaii, you'll wipe out the marijuana fields.

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#129133 Oct 11, 2012
Gate Keeper 1 wrote:
Yp're....you're
What??? Are you having an aneurysm?

Quick! Jog in place really fast!

Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#129134 Oct 11, 2012
And Zeus is the God of all gods.
Gate Keeper 1 wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, the ranting spewings of a 15 year old kid. Evoluttion is a religion, and you atheists creat rituals and myths to promote your fear. You use dogma and doctrine and pervert science to produce your desired results.
There have even been evolution fools who have conducted experiments, and have torn up years of research, because it revocably proved that there was a God and a Creator who made specific designs and orders.
St. Thomas Aquinas (1225-1274) spelled out five proofs from reason for the existence of God. Briefly summarized, they are:
1.Motion. What is in motion must be put in motion by another and that by another again. This cannot go on to infinity. Therefore, there must be at the head of the series of movers, a being that is itself unmoved and that is the source of all movement. This prime mover is Zeus.
2.Causation. This proof depends on the self-evident principles that nothing can exist without a sufficient reason for its existence and that every effect must have a cause. It is impossible for a thing to be the efficient cause of itself for, if it were, it would be prior to itself which is impossible. Since every effect must have a cause, that cause in turn must be the effect of another cause, and so on. But the process cannot go on to infinity. There must be a first cause that is not caused by anything else and that contains in itself the sufficient reason for its existence. That first cause is Zeus.
3.Necessity or contingency.This proof, too, depends on the self-evident principle of sufficient reason, that is, that whatever exists must have a sufficient reason for its existence.
If there was ever a time when there was nothing, there could never be anything. From nothing, nothing can come. To explain the existence of beings that are unnecessary, that at one time did not exist, there must have always existed a necessary being, from whom beings that began to be received their existence. The existence of all other beings is contingent on the existence of this necessary being. This necessary being is Zeus.
4.Perfection.When we perceive objects or people, we judge that they are more or less good, beautiful, kind, just, etc. But this presupposes an absolute standard of perfection with which the less perfect are compared. This absolute standard of perfection is Zeus.
5.Design. Whatever exhibits marks of design must be the work of an intelligent being. Nobody could possibly believe that his wrist watch just "fell together." On the contrary, it was obviously designed by an intelligent designer. How much more so with the human body, the world and the universe. They all give evidence of an intelligent designer. The order of the universe, the workings of the human eye, etc., cannot be the product of chance or of some blind necessity in the nature of things. Their intelligent designer is Zeus.
http://catholiceducation.org/articles/apologe...

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#129135 Oct 11, 2012
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>I figured that if it was kept close to their version of "truth" then it may help.
Baby steps.
Quite likely to work.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#129136 Oct 11, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
Sad isn't it?
<quoted text>
It truly is, and I just saw a mistake in my post, but it seems that you have already figured it out.

corrected >>> By doing the judging themselves, they give life to the god who does no longer animate.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#129137 Oct 11, 2012
Gate Keeper 1 wrote:
<quoted text>Ypu're welcome. Let me explain how that works. A grain of rice is so plentiful, but individual. It has no brain, no thoughts, but it is more ocmplex than a human. A simple grain of rice, will never be reproduced in a lab, but here it sits to be examined, observed and documented. A particular fact is that the rice genome may be far more complex than previously thought and that the rice genome contains between 42,000 and 63,000 genes while the human genome is estimated to contain between 23,000 to 30,000 genes.
Evolutionist have measured how advanced and superior a species is by its complexity and, implicitly, by the size of its genome, so does this new research indicate that rice is a more advanced, and perhaps even a superior, species than humanity?
Or is it simply the case that superiority is not a matter of complexity nor of the relative size of the species' genome. If this is the case, then the rice is evidence that evolution is not a fact and complexity is not a contingent. If we accept that lower forms can be more complex and individually specific, then we must reject evolution design unless the new theory is that humans evolved to be rice.
So, whatever will evolutionist do with grains of rice? Likely, have a bowl and shut up and hope dumb people can't figure it out. A 4 week old human embryo is the size of a single grain of rice, but a human will never grow to where is has as many genomes as a grain of rice.
So many words so little said.

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#129139 Oct 12, 2012
LlE Buster wrote:
<quoted text>So few words, nothing in your brain.
Hey, switch socks again for us, ok?

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#129140 Oct 12, 2012
Gate Keeper 1 wrote:
<quoted text>Just
Well, we know you're not from the United Church. That likely rules out Presbyterian, too.

You're so totally not Quaker. And you're very likely not Southern Baptist.

Are you, by chance, a grotesquely thin female white Calvinist?

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#129141 Oct 12, 2012
Gate Keeper 1 wrote:
<quoted text>Ypu
You're pooh!

No, you're pooh!

No, y'pu! Y'pu, right, pooh-guy! pu'guy! pugu!

Just to follow up on my last comment - what are your thoughts on... theater? Cards? Dancing?

Ah, just what I thought. Calvinist.

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#129142 Oct 12, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
And Zeus is the God of all gods.
<quoted text>
NO! You heretic! Odin is the Father of the Gods!

“There's a feeling I get...”

Since: Jun 11

...when I look to the West

#129143 Oct 12, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you indoctrinated to like gays?
Nope.

We don't have a bias againts people based on their race, their religion, or who they choose to go to bed with at night

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