Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#129029 Oct 11, 2012
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Are you suggesting, that something as novel as using the truth, could actually work here?
I figured that if it was kept close to their version of "truth" then it may help.
Baby steps.

Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#129030 Oct 11, 2012
Sad isn't it?
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>The judging is the only way to make them, know their god is real, well except for the lying. By lying they try to prove the bible gods words, "all men are liars" as truth.
By doing the judging themselves, they give life to the god who does longer animate.

Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#129031 Oct 11, 2012
There is no need to explain yourself to the pointless troll. If a guest came uninvited barging unwanted into your house and put their dirty feet on your couch you would have no need to explain why you are out of Dr. Pepper or other carbonated beverage.
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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It's worth putting this conversation in context. Before you act all hurt here, you were attacking atheists, claiming all kinds of things about us - based on the one, unifying label "atheist."
So...how do you expect me to respond? You want me to say "oh, gosh, yeah, we're all thoughtless scum who aren't creative because we don't believe in an all powerful stalker."
If you're going to spoon it out...you know the rest.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#129032 Oct 11, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Abiogenesis is anti science....
This is a classic. What on earth makes you think you are remotely qualified to say what is and is not science?
He who has no faith

Sweden

#129033 Oct 11, 2012
appleboy wrote:
<quoted text>
I think you are right, mooze. Not much at all was really said. But I do have some thoughts on the subject.
Those who value science are people who have faith in verifiable data and observed results of experiments. Religion is something they judge on their own, regardless of what they were taught.
Those who value faith above science are people who have faith in parents, teachers and other authority figures who taught them their religion.
There are high and low IQs in both groups, though there is a greater tendency towards high IQs in the science related group.
The core value for each is faith: faith in data & observation; or faith in some trusted members of society.
If your using "faith" as equaling "confidence" fine use the word, but if your are using the word as a replacement for "belief" then you don't understand the scientific method nor rational thinking. if the "method" fails it is modified or abandoned, this doesn't happen with religions

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#129034 Oct 11, 2012
Richardfs wrote:
<quoted text>
This is a classic. What on earth makes you think you are remotely qualified to say what is and is not science?
Well, to be honest, LB has a magical book and feelings. Feelings that have confirmed to him, beyond his ability to reason otherwise, that he, he and his fellow believers, have found the one true god. Yes. The One True God. Not the other one. Not that fake one over there. But the actual uniquely one true god.

And so Lightbeamer is qualified to stretch the truth a little - well, let's be honest here - misrepresent the boundaries of his knowledge and understandings of science and just make blanket proclamations entirely lacking in evidence, against 200 years of hard working scientists doing their best to expand the boundaries of knowledge, many of whom have struggled their entire lives to understand a small part of the universe.

No, no, I think it's fair to say that Lightbeamer understands the universe better than the best physicists in the world, grasps biological science more strongly than all biological scientists in the world and really gets people more than any social scientist could, all because of his profoundly strong, subjectively experienced and encultured "knowledge" of the one true god.

And that's why, across the nation, all universities and research centers are closing down. Why bother developing new drugs when Lightbeamer can just tell us how to? Why bother combating pathogens like malaria with evolutionary science when Lightbeamer "knows" it's malarkey? What's the point in studying star formation when Lightbeamer knows how that works?

God. God. God. The one, true god. Not like the other one. Nor the one over there. Not like the God in the Bible who kills people, or those silly pagans across Asia. Nope. The God of Lightbeamer.

(did you notice I jarringly stuck the word "malarkey" in there??? weeeeeeeeeee!)

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#129035 Oct 11, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> No no ,abiogenesis today has a completely different meaning than it did in 1688.
It is lightbeamrider that is anti science.
Glad we cleared that up and hagd :)
Tell it to Webster. Go to Oxford dictionary on line and look it up. I quoted the source Einstein. Yet you blame me for using a Webster definition. Self created universe is anti logic. Things do not create themselves. Abiogenesis is garbage delivered in science sounding words. In other words, it is sh#t wrapped in a fancy gift box. You have no real explanation which makes sense if one cuts through all the crap and takes a good look at what is really being said.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#129036 Oct 11, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>Eagle...the adaptive peak for "shoulder fired missile" is too high for mutation to reach in the spider environment. However, it has been reached in the plant environment (b/c plants, unlike spiders, are large and tough enough to build a system of pressure that can fire a missile).

In nature, animals that fire missiles to capture their prey include:

- frogs and some toads and a few other amphibians
- chameleons (and a few other lizards)
- some fish
- some mollusks

Spiders are pretty small and they have their own weapons that work quite well. Spiders are on an adaptive peak of their own - for them to get off of it, another system would have to be better than theirs. But missile systems involve a lot of mechanics. Evolution simply cannot produce that kind of change - it would involve giving up a functional system for one that doesn't quite work for a few thousand years (while evolution fine tunes it).

That said, large spiders in the tarantula family eject missile weapons as a defense mechanism when large predators try to eat them.

Some spiders throw bolas to capture prey.
I can throw a pretty mean boomerang.

I make my own, too.

But I don't have 8 legs.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#129037 Oct 11, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>This is what you said:

"That from a guy that puts all theists on trial and condemns them and their morality according to his. You paint theists as animals, uneducated and dumb. What next if you had the power? Kill them?"

So I challenged you to back up your accusation; to show us where I condemned all theists and their morality, and painted them as animals, uneducated and dumb.

That was on Monday.

You are a coward, Dave Nelson.

A gutless coward.
You questioned their beliefs.

That makes them realize that their beliefs make them dumb and uneducated.

Therefore, questioning their beliefs is telling them they are dumb and uneducated.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#129038 Oct 11, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, to be honest, LB has a magical book and feelings. Feelings that have confirmed to him, beyond his ability to reason otherwise, that he, he and his fellow believers, have found the one true god. Yes. The One True God. Not the other one. Not that fake one over there. But the actual uniquely one true god.
And so Lightbeamer is qualified to stretch the truth a little - well, let's be honest here - misrepresent the boundaries of his knowledge and understandings of science and just make blanket proclamations entirely lacking in evidence, against 200 years of hard working scientists doing their best to expand the boundaries of knowledge, many of whom have struggled their entire lives to understand a small part of the universe.
No, no, I think it's fair to say that Lightbeamer understands the universe better than the best physicists in the world, grasps biological science more strongly than all biological scientists in the world and really gets people more than any social scientist could, all because of his profoundly strong, subjectively experienced and encultured "knowledge" of the one true god.
And that's why, across the nation, all universities and research centers are closing down. Why bother developing new drugs when Lightbeamer can just tell us how to? Why bother combating pathogens like malaria with evolutionary science when Lightbeamer "knows" it's malarkey? What's the point in studying star formation when Lightbeamer knows how that works?
God. God. God. The one, true god. Not like the other one. Nor the one over there. Not like the God in the Bible who kills people, or those silly pagans across Asia. Nope. The God of Lightbeamer.
(did you notice I jarringly stuck the word "malarkey" in there??? weeeeeeeeeee!)
Thanks, that was brilliant.

I am always staggered by the remitting BLIND faith these godbots have in their ignorance.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#129039 Oct 11, 2012
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, Dave Nelson has conveniently forgotten what he said.(And you are most kind.)

But his slander extended to a suggestion that, if I had the power, I might kill Al Garcia!!

Al's my bud, you know that.
Dave forgets what he says because practically everything he says is lies.

They're tough to keep track of.

It uses up all of Dave's minimal reserves.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#129040 Oct 11, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>It's true. You are one each standard issue elitist.

All one has to do is scroll through your old posts to prove it. Which I will not do for them. I would if I had a bad case of insomnia, but that is very rare. Yes, your posts are that boring and unimaginative. Plus the grammar errors.
Yours are imaginative.

I'll give you that.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#129041 Oct 11, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, to be honest, LB has a magical book and feelings. Feelings that have confirmed to him, beyond his ability to reason otherwise, that he, he and his fellow believers, have found the one true god. Yes. The One True God. Not the other one. Not that fake one over there. But the actual uniquely one true god.
And so Lightbeamer is qualified to stretch the truth a little - well, let's be honest here - misrepresent the boundaries of his knowledge and understandings of science and just make blanket proclamations entirely lacking in evidence, against 200 years of hard working scientists doing their best to expand the boundaries of knowledge, many of whom have struggled their entire lives to understand a small part of the universe.
No, no, I think it's fair to say that Lightbeamer understands the universe better than the best physicists in the world, grasps biological science more strongly than all biological scientists in the world and really gets people more than any social scientist could, all because of his profoundly strong, subjectively experienced and encultured "knowledge" of the one true god.
And that's why, across the nation, all universities and research centers are closing down. Why bother developing new drugs when Lightbeamer can just tell us how to? Why bother combating pathogens like malaria with evolutionary science when Lightbeamer "knows" it's malarkey? What's the point in studying star formation when Lightbeamer knows how that works?
God. God. God. The one, true god. Not like the other one. Nor the one over there. Not like the God in the Bible who kills people, or those silly pagans across Asia. Nope. The God of Lightbeamer.
(did you notice I jarringly stuck the word "malarkey" in there??? weeeeeeeeeee!)
Beautiful.

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#129042 Oct 11, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Tell it to Webster. Go to Oxford dictionary on line and look it up. I quoted the source Einstein. Yet you blame me for using a Webster definition. Self created universe is anti logic. Things do not create themselves. Abiogenesis is garbage delivered in science sounding words. In other words, it is sh#t wrapped in a fancy gift box. You have no real explanation which makes sense if one cuts through all the crap and takes a good look at what is really being said.
Bull

http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/engl...

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#129043 Oct 11, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
I can throw a pretty mean boomerang.
I make my own, too.
But I don't have 8 legs.
You better work on that. Get 8 legs or else!

grrrrrrrrr!

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#129044 Oct 11, 2012
Richardfs wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks, that was brilliant.
I am always staggered by the remitting BLIND faith these godbots have in their ignorance.
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!

(for me, not for blind faith)

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#129045 Oct 11, 2012
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text>
Beautiful.
aishiteru yo!

yaaaaaaaaaay!

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#129046 Oct 11, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
Somebody should be embarrassed!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =fdnWwlZCsSwXX
A lot of people should be embarrassed.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#129047 Oct 11, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, to be honest, LB has a magical book and feelings. Feelings that have confirmed to him, beyond his ability to reason otherwise, that he, he and his fellow believers, have found the one true god. Yes. The One True God. Not the other one. Not that fake one over there. But the actual uniquely one true god.
And so Lightbeamer is qualified to stretch the truth a little - well, let's be honest here - misrepresent the boundaries of his knowledge and understandings of science and just make blanket proclamations entirely lacking in evidence, against 200 years of hard working scientists doing their best to expand the boundaries of knowledge, many of whom have struggled their entire lives to understand a small part of the universe.
No, no, I think it's fair to say that Lightbeamer understands the universe better than the best physicists in the world, grasps biological science more strongly than all biological scientists in the world and really gets people more than any social scientist could, all because of his profoundly strong, subjectively experienced and encultured "knowledge" of the one true god.
And that's why, across the nation, all universities and research centers are closing down. Why bother developing new drugs when Lightbeamer can just tell us how to? Why bother combating pathogens like malaria with evolutionary science when Lightbeamer "knows" it's malarkey? What's the point in studying star formation when Lightbeamer knows how that works?
God. God. God. The one, true god. Not like the other one. Nor the one over there. Not like the God in the Bible who kills people, or those silly pagans across Asia. Nope. The God of Lightbeamer.
(did you notice I jarringly stuck the word "malarkey" in there??? weeeeeeeeeee!)
Nothing more than misrepresentation and condescending personal attack. I do not claim to know more than the physicists snd to question abiogenesis and self created universe is not the same as combating malaria. Of course this does not stop you from your little hit piece sure to receive praise from topix atheists here. Then you have the gall to appeal to honesty in the opening line. Your post has nothing to do with honesty. Have a nice day.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#129048 Oct 11, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>Well, to be honest, LB has a magical book and feelings. Feelings that have confirmed to him, beyond his ability to reason otherwise, that he, he and his fellow believers, have found the one true god. Yes. The One True God. Not the other one. Not that fake one over there. But the actual uniquely one true god.

And so Lightbeamer is qualified to stretch the truth a little - well, let's be honest here - misrepresent the boundaries of his knowledge and understandings of science and just make blanket proclamations entirely lacking in evidence, against 200 years of hard working scientists doing their best to expand the boundaries of knowledge, many of whom have struggled their entire lives to understand a small part of the universe.

No, no, I think it's fair to say that Lightbeamer understands the universe better than the best physicists in the world, grasps biological science more strongly than all biological scientists in the world and really gets people more than any social scientist could, all because of his profoundly strong, subjectively experienced and encultured "knowledge" of the one true god.

And that's why, across the nation, all universities and research centers are closing down. Why bother developing new drugs when Lightbeamer can just tell us how to? Why bother combating pathogens like malaria with evolutionary science when Lightbeamer "knows" it's malarkey? What's the point in studying star formation when Lightbeamer knows how that works?

God. God. God. The one, true god. Not like the other one. Nor the one over there. Not like the God in the Bible who kills people, or those silly pagans across Asia. Nope. The God of Lightbeamer.

(did you notice I jarringly stuck the word "malarkey" in there??? weeeeeeeeeee!)
I haven't heard that since I was a kid.

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