Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#129050 Oct 11, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>You better work on that. Get 8 legs or else!

grrrrrrrrr!
I am! I am!

The third one is coming along nicely.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#129051 Oct 11, 2012
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. rejection is the opposite of acceptance. You dislike gays and reject them as productive members of society ..
.. you dare speak of attitude? You, the misogynistic male who thinks all women are dumb - created to fetch you a beer, share your bed and wash your dishes ??..
Wait, woah, woah!!!!

"share the bed"?!?!?

Sheeet, the bed's all mine. When we're done, the woman goes to the couch!

“First it steals your mind..”

Since: Jun 11

..and then it steals your soul

#129052 Oct 11, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
I am! I am!
The third one is coming along nicely.
The differences in length varies too much to be of any use.

Since: Sep 08

Rocky Ford, CO

#129053 Oct 11, 2012
Hallelujah!!!

My portable backup generator is supposed to be delivered today. What an epic this has been. Third try, first two were out of stock, this one was delayed in shipping. Hope it works.

Eighty odd miles of power wires feeding this place. Vulnerable to ice and high winds. It has its own diesel power system, but it is cheaper to buy. They can crank it up if needed, but they didn't last year when the power was out for almost a day. In below zero weather. Gas furnace, but takes electricity to operate it. Arrrgh!!

Had a neighbor pull a tree down last Saturday that got away from him. Knocked out power to the whole town for a few minutes. Could have been worse.

I'm ready this year. Gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling, having power and glory at your fingertips. All you have to do is call on it.

Since: Sep 08

Rocky Ford, CO

#129054 Oct 11, 2012
Denying religions on the basis of their texts and scientific observations is one thing. Quite easy to do.

But the atheist denial of the existence of a higher intelligence or force that created and/or drives the organization resulting in our ability to "reason" is something else. That is getting into the territory of runaway ego and mental issues. A weird one at that. They will submit themselves to the superiority of fellow humans, but not to a higher supernatural force. Strange.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#129055 Oct 11, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
You better work on that. Get 8 legs or else!
grrrrrrrrr!
Maybe he can evolve out of necessity....

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#129056 Oct 11, 2012
tinydropthestickgooddog wrote:
When Science is confronted by the inexplicable, it is telling that it never resorts to the existence of a God to explain what it cannot - tacitly Science knows that God is not a creditable explanation for anything .... to God science says no .
Maybe to God, science should say maybe...

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#129057 Oct 11, 2012
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>The man speaks his mind and he’s a coward?

You are using the wrong application for the word “coward,” my friend.

Misapplying words in a sentence shows a poor understanding and use of the language.
You are using the wrong application of the word "mind".

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#129058 Oct 11, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>Evolution as you preach it.

Even Darwin left it open to being a method used by God.
I don't preach anything.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#129059 Oct 11, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
Denying religions on the basis of their texts and scientific observations is one thing. Quite easy to do.

But the atheist denial of the existence of a higher intelligence or force that created and/or drives the organization resulting in our ability to "reason" is something else. That is getting into the territory of runaway ego and mental issues. A weird one at that. They will submit themselves to the superiority of fellow humans, but not to a higher supernatural force. Strange.
Why?

There is ample evidence of superior fellow humans.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#129061 Oct 11, 2012
Double Fine wrote:
<quoted text>The differences in length varies too much to be of any use.
Keeps me from rolling out of bed in the morning.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#129062 Oct 11, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Nothing more than misrepresentation and condescending personal attack. I do not claim to know more than the physicists snd to question abiogenesis and self created universe is not the same as combating malaria. Of course this does not stop you from your little hit piece sure to receive praise from topix atheists here. Then you have the gall to appeal to honesty in the opening line. Your post has nothing to do with honesty. Have a nice day.
Oh, I'm sorry, are you a biologist who specializes in abiogensis? Do you even understand the first thing about biology? Do you understand anything - anything at all about biochemistry? Organic chemistry?

No, right? Doesn't your religion preach against lies and deception?

When you claim authority to speak on matters that you do not understand, have no training in whatsoever, you are being dishonest. There are no two ways about it.

Stop being dishonest.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#129063 Oct 11, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
I haven't heard that since I was a kid.
You mean, as a child someone reamed you out for lying about your knowledge of science???

How strange!

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#129064 Oct 11, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
I am! I am!
The third one is coming along nicely.
Honestly...don't grow another one. You're perfect with two legs and that large dangly thingy.

Just...put your pants back on.

:p

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#129065 Oct 11, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Riiiiight.... Because the Bible is so full of gay this & gay that...
It's only mentioned a few times, it's not that big of a deal as you think.
That may be correct, but homophobia is huge in the American church nevertheless. That's evident in these threads.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
My bigotry of gays stems from the attitude of gays. They think that because they're gay, everyone needs to accept them & move on. That's the wrong attitute to have.
With due respect, I disagree that your homophobia is endogenous. I still believe that you are indoctrinated to feel that way. Your church scapegoats, demeans, dehumanizes and marginalizes gays like it does atheists. Why don't humanists agree with you? From "Affirmations of Humanism" at http://www.secularhumanism.org/index.php... :

"We are concerned with securing justice and fairness in society and with eliminating discrimination and intolerance."

"We attempt to transcend divisive parochial loyalties based on race, religion, gender, nationality, creed, class, sexual orientation, or ethnicity, and strive to work together for the common good of humanity."

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#129066 Oct 11, 2012
preterism wrote:
Can you prove that a creator isn't needed ?
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Not yet. Why would it matter if I could?
preterism wrote:
To know ther truth that you esgerly desire as we all do.
What if we proved that there WERE creators? Why would that matter? We still would know nothing about them or who they were, since they have never told us.

And we still wouldn't worship them, just experience gratitude, feelings I already cultivate for the universe and my inclusion in it.

Worshiping is demeaning.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#129067 Oct 11, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, I'm sorry, are you a biologist who specializes in abiogensis? Do you even understand the first thing about biology?
What branch deals with Gooses which lays golden eggs? How bout making gold from lead? What about fountain of youth? The odds being better for any of these to happen than abiogenesis.

Richardfs

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#129068 Oct 11, 2012
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> What branch deals with Gooses which lays golden eggs? How bout making gold from lead? What about fountain of youth? The odds being better for any of these to happen than abiogenesis.
Only you could equate science to fairy tales.

Eagle12

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#129069 Oct 11, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
Eagle...the adaptive peak for "shoulder fired missile" is too high for mutation to reach in the spider environment. However, it has been reached in the plant environment (b/c plants, unlike spiders, are large and tough enough to build a system of pressure that can fire a missile).
In nature, animals that fire missiles to capture their prey include:
- frogs and some toads and a few other amphibians
- chameleons (and a few other lizards)
- some fish
- some mollusks
Spiders are pretty small and they have their own weapons that work quite well. Spiders are on an adaptive peak of their own - for them to get off of it, another system would have to be better than theirs. But missile systems involve a lot of mechanics. Evolution simply cannot produce that kind of change - it would involve giving up a functional system for one that doesn't quite work for a few thousand years (while evolution fine tunes it).
That said, large spiders in the tarantula family eject missile weapons as a defense mechanism when large predators try to eat them.
Some spiders throw bolas to capture prey.
Spiders are freaking cool, lol.

Eagle12

“In the beginning God Created..”

Since: Feb 12

Southern Illinois

#129070 Oct 11, 2012
Just a friendly reminder to all who distain those who believe in God or affiliated with a religious faith. We that believe in God are protected under the United States Constitution. Religious freedom is the cornerstone of freedom.

Wiki:

There are over 450,000 churches in the United States according to Premier Tourism Marketing's website and a few others.

In the United States, freedom of religion is a constitutionally guaranteed right provided in the religion clauses of the First Amendment. Freedom of religion is also closely associated with separation of church and state, a concept advocated by Thomas Jefferson.

The Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993, Pub. L. No. 103-141, 107 Stat. 1488 (November 16, 1993), codified at 42 U.S.C.§ 2000bb through 42 U.S.C.§ 2000bb-4 (also known as RFRA), is a 1993 United States federal law aimed at preventing laws that substantially burden a person's free exercise of their religion. The bill was introduced by Howard McKeon of California and Dean Gallo of New Jersey on March 11, 1993.[1] It was held unconstitutional as applied to the states in the City of Boerne v. Flores decision in 1997, which ruled that the RFRA is not a proper exercise of Congress's enforcement power. But it continues to be applied to the federal government, for instance in Gonzales v. O Centro Espirita Beneficente Uniao do Vegetal, because Congress has broad authority to carve out exemptions from federal laws and regulations that it itself has authorized.

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