Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

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#128823 Oct 10, 2012
Double Fine wrote:
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Well, it is rated R18, but I watched it at 12 years old and look at me today!
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(Don't say anything)
You're a Gelding? I was just looking closely at your pic.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#128824 Oct 10, 2012
preterism wrote:
<quoted text> When and what made you to believe there is no God.
Nice twist!!

I don't believe that there is no god; there is no evidence that there is a god.

Why do you believe in a god? What evidence do you have? Ignorance is not evidence!!

“There's a feeling I get...”

Since: Jun 11

...when I look to the West

#128825 Oct 10, 2012
River Tam wrote:
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You're a Gelding? I was just looking closely at your pic.
No!

Was a very cold day...

Since: Jan 11

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#128826 Oct 10, 2012
AmericasBestChristian wrote:
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Which is why we are called upon to detest all unsaved trash, including MORMONS...The Bible COMMANDS us to DETEST all those who are not TRUE Christians and God told me to hate the likes of FAKE Christians like you. You are no longer an individual. You are promote HERESY. There is a difference. Glory!
Christian knife fight.

They're the best.
moki

UK

#128827 Oct 10, 2012
River Tam wrote:
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How much Rum do you have?
I'll teach this time.
I have some Schnapps at home. What's yr fave drink River?

“There's a feeling I get...”

Since: Jun 11

...when I look to the West

#128828 Oct 10, 2012
moki wrote:
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I have some Schnapps at home. What's yr fave drink River?
Water

Since: Sep 08

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#128829 Oct 10, 2012
scaritual wrote:
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I did read the entire article, Dave. Here is what caught my eye.
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He obviously wasn't as incapable of consciousness as was thought.
He doesn't attempt to explain how he went from essentially brain dead, with a doctor looking to see if they should discontinue to brain alive, in the blink of an eye. Obviously the machinery and all indications were pointing to his being a vegetable.
Yet, he blinks his eyes, voilą! From brain dead to brain function in a blink?
He continues...
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There is no fact involved above at all - that he experienced what he claims while in a coma.
It could have occurred as he slipped into a coma, as he was exiting the coma, or, a dream later on.
There is no fact involved there, its an assertion, an anecdote.
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Minute medical observation? The cortex jumps from an infected and ravaged - completely shut down -(no go)- to - GO!- in the blink of an eye?
It's just an anecdotal story, Dave.
That's all.
That it is a doctor relaying the story adds no weight or special relevance.
You would say it was scientific proof if he said he didn't remember a thing.

He was a neurosurgeon. He was on some sort of life support with his fellow doctors watching over him. Not a guy off the street. I am sure he has given considerable thought to the experience from his professional and educational background.

Yes, these memories could be the result of a transitional stage from his coma to consciousness again. If you have a memory it is because it was written in your physical brain. However, whatever occurred during the coma translated into some coherent stream of consciousness when the light came back on.

There is just no way science can determine what goes on in the subconscious during such an event. The fact is he survived. Whether he would have laying out in the wilderness, where the species developed, versus being under life support, is another story. During the coma he was evidently doing some self repair.

I've been knocked out for surgery and didn't remember a damned thing, and I have had a NDE as the result of severe trauma and I had memories, visual ones only, of that unconscious state. They were different than his, and of much shorter duration.

The really telling point of such experiences is the fear of death you have tends to evaporate afterwards. What was a remote concept of it all ending and going to the big sleep turns into a reality. Your consciousness doesn't die. It isn't the same as here, that is because of the physical addons of life experience, but there is a core that remains. You can still have reservations about physical death, but primarily abut how you die. A quality of physical comfort thing.

You have to be on the inside of such experiences to understand.

“Jesus is Love”

Since: Jul 12

Hutchinson, MN

#128830 Oct 10, 2012
scaritual wrote:
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Is that what happened to you, Dave?
Did some type of otherworldly magnetic bug thingy get in your ear and lay an egg, Dave?
Aren't you that hateful atheist I saw on another bigtoed atheist thread?

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#128831 Oct 10, 2012
Saint Augustine wrote:
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Christian knife fight.
They're the best.
Don't you love the way he (it is our old friend Viking in new socks) rewrites the Bible to suit whatever hallucination he is currently having ?

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#128832 Oct 10, 2012
Double Fine wrote:
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Water
LOL

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#128833 Oct 10, 2012
Just Results wrote:
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Aren't you that hateful atheist I saw on another bigtoed atheist thread?
That was one of your own socks, VIking.

Your MPD sucks doesn't it ?

Since: Sep 08

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#128834 Oct 10, 2012
What is the benefit in believing you are just a glorified piece of stellar shit coming and going in a flash?

Does that benefit you? No, it benefits those that can exploit you by your believing it.

This is YOUR time in the sun.

The serpent in the Garden told Eve she would surely not die if she knew the "truth". She was a construct, a physical being vulnerable to other physical things. She and Adam lost faith in that which created them to protect and maintain them. Fear of death was introduced to mankind.

The serpent is whispering in your ear again with this "knowledge" that you are just a piece of stellar shit.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

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#128835 Oct 10, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
What is the benefit in believing you are just a glorified piece of stellar shit coming and going in a flash?
Does that benefit you? No, it benefits those that can exploit you by your believing it.
This is YOUR time in the sun.
The serpent in the Garden told Eve she would surely not die if she knew the "truth". She was a construct, a physical being vulnerable to other physical things. She and Adam lost faith in that which created them to protect and maintain them. Fear of death was introduced to mankind.
The serpent is whispering in your ear again with this "knowledge" that you are just a piece of stellar shit.
Begone serpent! Shaddup ! "stuffs a carrot in Dave's mouth"
Dave? Dave's not here!

Since: Sep 08

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#128836 Oct 10, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Begone serpent! Shaddup ! "stuffs a carrot in Dave's mouth"
Dave? Dave's not here!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =N6wV7rAKMNEXX
Be careful not to get sssssunburned, ssssilly man.

Since: Jun 07

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#128837 Oct 10, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Be careful not to get sssssunburned, ssssilly man.
You've failed to convince anyone that your god is real. Go back to your cult and concoct some more lies about atheists and science and see if those stick.

Hint: They won't because you are a proven liar lying about a god that isn't real.

Since: Sep 08

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#128838 Oct 10, 2012
-Skeptic- wrote:
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You've failed to convince anyone that your god is real. Go back to your cult and concoct some more lies about atheists and science and see if those stick.
Hint: They won't because you are a proven liar lying about a god that isn't real.
Ssssilly Sssskeptic.

You will never ssssee anything but yourssself unlesssss you take your head out of your asssss.

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#128839 Oct 10, 2012
River Tam wrote:
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How much Rum do you have?
I'll teach this time.
Never enough.

Teach away!

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#128840 Oct 10, 2012
preterism wrote:
<quoted text> Would you consider creation to be a supernatural event?
If it takes a god, absolutely.

Totally supernatural.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#128841 Oct 10, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
What is the benefit in believing you are just a glorified piece of stellar shit coming and going in a flash?
Does that benefit you? No, it benefits those that can exploit you by your believing it.
This is YOUR time in the sun.
The serpent in the Garden told Eve she would surely not die if she knew the "truth". She was a construct, a physical being vulnerable to other physical things. She and Adam lost faith in that which created them to protect and maintain them. Fear of death was introduced to mankind.
The serpent is whispering in your ear again with this "knowledge" that you are just a piece of stellar shit.
And as I stated yesterday, you are nothing but a coward, Dave.

Since: Sep 08

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#128842 Oct 10, 2012
I'm not much up on the Bible text. Never read it all the way through, much less remember chapter and verse. Just some general things I remember and look up on Google.

Need some of these atheist expert on the Bible to point me out to some verses.

Where does Jesus say you will be just sitting around like good little sheep singing hosannas? Having no life and future experiences, or even free will of a sort, so to speak? I don't think there is really anything like that in there attributable to him. Just something like you will have eternal life. God kind of sets you loose, but in better shape. But I could be wrong.

Now, what does "science" based atheism tell you? They know the "truth" and what is best for you. Listen to them, and obey, they say.

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