Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.
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No you moron, invisible foreigners
Lean to read
OK, smart guy. I'll LEAN to read....

LMFAO - You CAN'T be funny, huh?

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Yes. Because the public are uninformed of the facts and the merits of the theory
Yes but that study wasn't done on the public, but on scientists. so...

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http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/09/surv...

Read carefully. Very few what you call true "atheists", the OVERWHELMING percentage just haven't found their niche, whether they are looking for it or not.

Enculturated or not, it is a reality.

The crazies on here will feel those unaffiliated are on their side, that they are winning a war.

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OK, smart guy. I'll LEAN to read....
LMFAO - You CAN'T be funny, huh?
I thought it was funny

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Dave Nelson wrote:
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/ 2012/10/09/survey-one-in-five- americans-is-religiously-unaff iliated/?hpt=hp_c2
Read carefully. Very few what you call true "atheists", the OVERWHELMING percentage just haven't found their niche, whether they are looking for it or not.
Enculturated or not, it is a reality.
The crazies on here will feel those unaffiliated are on their side, that they are winning a war.
Right, we will all take notice of a religious blog

That’s almost as screwy as davesworld imagination

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Yo
Methinks she was looking at it from the rapist's POV
Think of it this way: Although she MAY, you won't send your teen daughter out in the street, to walk in the most dangerous part of town at night. Yes, the law is on her side, but best not do anything stupid.
What me and Christine is saying is YES, you have freedoms and liberties. But use them responsibly.
People like Aura somehow twists that message, one of just exercising one's rights responsibly into some kind of anti-American rhetoric. But I think you understand it a bit better
.. haven't formed an opinion in this debate, trying to find a comparison. Let's try this:

.. a pedophile in America films the rape of a child.(s)He is arrested and found guilty of an illegal act based on law ..

.. a director produces an anti-Mohammed film in Iran.(s)He is arrested and found guilty of an illegal act based on law ..

.. Iran may ignore the rape of a 12-year-old girl, America the filming of an anti-Mohammed film ..

.. so, what's the solution ??..

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Yes but that study wasn't done on the public, but on scientists. so...
Read your piece again.

It compared a figure of scientists who believes in evolution with non-scientists believing in evolution.

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Right, we will all take notice of a religious blog
That’s almost as screwy as davesworld imagination
No, you wouldn't take notice.

Did you read the part of the atheists groups wanting ti use this as a political advantage?

Poor Christine, just a puppet with delusions of grandeur.

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<quoted text> No DF I have not twisted anything , merely stated it is a right to express yourself. I agree the film was a bad idea , but
the response was off the scale of what is acceptable.
It is not the freedom to express yourself that is at fault, nor the filmmaker for doing so(barring any laws broken in making the film) but it is unacceptable to murder someone because I didn't like it, and unacceptable to America (or me) that someone would.
.. perhaps the movie had nothing to do with the murders and was used as a convenient excuse to kill infidels ??..

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.. haven't formed an opinion in this debate, trying to find a comparison. Let's try this:
.. a pedophile in America films the rape of a child.(s)He is arrested and found guilty of an illegal act based on law ..
.. a director produces an anti-Mohammed film in Iran.(s)He is arrested and found guilty of an illegal act based on law ..
.. Iran may ignore the rape of a 12-year-old girl, America the filming of an anti-Mohammed film ..
.. so, what's the solution ??..
Very good point.

I think the difference here is what constitutes a basic human right.

Rape violates the human rights of the victim. No argument there.

But sending out an anti-Islamic (or anti-Christian, anti-Hindu or whatever) message, statement, book or film, is not considered a violation of human rights.

Hope that makes sense?

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I thought it was funny
You liked my invisible flying Japs joke?

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.. haven't formed an opinion in this debate, trying to find a comparison. Let's try this:
.. a pedophile in America films the rape of a child.(s)He is arrested and found guilty of an illegal act based on law ..
.. a director produces an anti-Mohammed film in Iran.(s)He is arrested and found guilty of an illegal act based on law ..
.. Iran may ignore the rape of a 12-year-old girl, America the filming of an anti-Mohammed film ..
.. so, what's the solution ??..
Understanding acceptable differences in all cultures.

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Very good point.
I think the difference here is what constitutes a basic human right.
Rape violates the human rights of the victim. No argument there.
But sending out an anti-Islamic (or anti-Christian, anti-Hindu or whatever) message, statement, book or film, is not considered a violation of human rights.
Hope that makes sense?
Double Fine said it better than the Redneck....

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No, you wouldn't take notice.
Did you read the part of the atheists groups wanting ti use this as a political advantage?
Poor Christine, just a puppet with delusions of grandeur.
Yes I read it

I was particularly impressed with the part that stated “The number of these Americans has grown by 25% just in the past five years”

Tell me though how is that that TRUE atheists pray every day, that my dear delusional friend is not atheism, that is god worship without a faith

Basically it’s just contradictory waffle and no more than would be expected form a devotee of davesworld

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You liked my invisible flying Japs joke?
No I thought that was stupid and typical of an ignorant yank.

The funny bit was when I had remind you what HFY had actually written

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Very good point.
I think the difference here is what constitutes a basic human right.
Rape violates the human rights of the victim. No argument there.
But sending out an anti-Islamic (or anti-Christian, anti-Hindu or whatever) message, statement, book or film, is not considered a violation of human rights.
Hope that makes sense?
.. the problem seems to be disagreement on law, what constitutes a crime ..

.. Christians kill abortion doctors because they believe it is a violation of human rights ..

.. we're back to law ..

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Understanding acceptable differences in all cultures.
.. yet, you do not accept the gay culture ..

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.. perhaps the movie had nothing to do with the murders and was used as a convenient excuse to kill infidels ??..
This is a possibility, it was after all there to be used as an excuse.

If it had not been there then that excuse would not have existed and another excuse would have to have been found. Or perhaps some random act of terrorism would have served just as well. Or maybe nothing would have happened at all, who knows?

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Understanding acceptable differences in all cultures.
Wow!
Steps back in amazement…
Something we can agree on.

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Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. the problem seems to be disagreement on law, what constitutes a crime ..
.. Christians kill abortion doctors because they believe it is a violation of human rights ..
.. we're back to law ..
In the UK as in most other countries in the world incitement of one sort or another (religious hatred, racial hatred, simple hatred and/or to violence) is a crime punishable by imprisonment

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