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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Since: Jun 11

...when I look to the West

#128603 Oct 9, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> No DF I have not twisted anything , merely stated it is a right to express yourself. I agree the film was a bad idea , but
the response was off the scale of what is acceptable.
Yes! Now we agree. That is my point.
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
It is not the freedom to express yourself that is at fault, nor the filmmaker for doing so(barring any laws broken in making the film) but it is unacceptable to murder someone because I didn't like it, and unacceptable to America (or me) that someone would.
Yes, just as it is legal to wander the city streets at 4 AM. Perfectly legal. But, I have a good chance to be mugged/robbed/raped/killed/eat en/sold to slavery when wandering the streets at that time.

I am not saying we should infringe on anyones rights... I am saying we should use them responsibly.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#128604 Oct 9, 2012
Double Fine wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes! Now we agree. That is my point.
<quoted text>
Yes, just as it is legal to wander the city streets at 4 AM. Perfectly legal. But, I have a good chance to be mugged/robbed/raped/killed/eat en/sold to slavery when wandering the streets at that time.
I am not saying we should infringe on anyones rights... I am saying we should use them responsibly.
Goes to show you there is evil in the world. Not just action/reaction or seeking food.

That movie was opportunity. Used as a justification to incite for political reasons more than moral or religious. There has been far worse mockery of Jesus than on these forums than of Mohammed in that movie. Mohammed was a man, Jesus was supposed to be part of divinity.

James Holmes is a strange case. Highly intelligent, educated and informed, yet instead of targeting cops or the bad boys in the hood, he attacked total innocents, and spent some time preparing for it. Up jumped the devil. He was enabled by the dark stuff presented on the media.

These forums may be a vent to release anger on the part of disaffected people, but it is also media. Seeds planted. There is too much emotion in the arguments, and too little rationality.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#128605 Oct 9, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
Now where did I say ALL? Oh I see lying again, well done.
From what I have seen most of the population (not all by any means) but certainly the majority dislike Muslims. GWBush saw to that in his frustration at not being able to get to those responsible for 9/11 he chose to discredit a religion with the government backing him up.
You may call it a stupid movie, I call it I a deliberate exercise in inciting hatred. Neither is the point, the point is that people are responsible for their actions
Please read my previous reply to inciting rape reply because I am not repeating just for your sexual excitement
Your previous comment didn't answer anything. You just avoided that you said that a person can incite rape upon themselves by attempting to call me a rapist.

“There's a feeling I get...”

Since: Jun 11

...when I look to the West

#128606 Oct 9, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Goes to show you there is evil in the world. Not just action/reaction or seeking food.
That movie was opportunity. Used as a justification to incite for political reasons more than moral or religious. There has been far worse mockery of Jesus than on these forums than of Mohammed in that movie. Mohammed was a man, Jesus was supposed to be part of divinity.
James Holmes is a strange case. Highly intelligent, educated and informed, yet instead of targeting cops or the bad boys in the hood, he attacked total innocents, and spent some time preparing for it. Up jumped the devil. He was enabled by the dark stuff presented on the media.
These forums may be a vent to release anger on the part of disaffected people, but it is also media. Seeds planted. There is too much emotion in the arguments, and too little rationality.
Great last sentence.

"When the emotion rises, the IQ drops" - Double Fine

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#128607 Oct 9, 2012
scaritual wrote:
If you can't rebut the points or evidence supplied, that's fine, concede the points raised.
Your tactics along with the tactics of ''modern scholarship'' is selective and therefore discredited. They do not look at all the evidence. They establish a timeline and on that basis reject the Exodus. A TIMELINE FOR THE EXODUS HAS NOT BEEN ESTABLISHED! They also reject the evidence based on anti supernatural bias. Like you they evidence select based on fixed criteria. That means you are not interested in the truth of the matter but only in the propagation of you revisionist anti supernatural agenda. I would add such tactics are juvenile and shoddy.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#128608 Oct 9, 2012
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>Your previous comment didn't answer anything. You just avoided that you said that a person can incite rape upon themselves by attempting to call me a rapist.
Right

Perhaps you need to re-read the comment

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#128609 Oct 9, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
Evolution is the simple outcome of genes, mutation and limited resources. It's a mathematical equation that describes allelic (genes) frequency changes in gene pools. That is established, it won't be superseded. We are building on this knowledge now, not questioning it. For it to be superseded, you'd have to demonstrate that genes don't really exist, mutations don't really exist or the world has unlimited resources or every child successfully survives to adulthood and reproduces the same number of children as everyone else.
Do you believe any of those absurdities?
No. I don't. At least I don't think that humans know all of it. I think that humans are incredibly assumptive & arrogant. We always have been.

I think evolution, as we THINK we know it is today, is absurd. A human bone is stronger than concrete. A human hand has 1,000 miles of nerves in it. A human body has, what, 10 trillion cells in it. And that's just one human. Forget everything else. The odds of evolution happening by random chance is staggeringly high.

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#128610 Oct 9, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
No you moron, invisible foreigners
Lean to read
OK, smart guy. I'll LEAN to read....

LMFAO - You CAN'T be funny, huh?

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#128611 Oct 9, 2012
Double Fine wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes. Because the public are uninformed of the facts and the merits of the theory
Yes but that study wasn't done on the public, but on scientists. so...

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#128612 Oct 9, 2012
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/09/surv...

Read carefully. Very few what you call true "atheists", the OVERWHELMING percentage just haven't found their niche, whether they are looking for it or not.

Enculturated or not, it is a reality.

The crazies on here will feel those unaffiliated are on their side, that they are winning a war.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#128613 Oct 9, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
OK, smart guy. I'll LEAN to read....
LMFAO - You CAN'T be funny, huh?
I thought it was funny

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Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#128614 Oct 9, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/ 2012/10/09/survey-one-in-five- americans-is-religiously-unaff iliated/?hpt=hp_c2
Read carefully. Very few what you call true "atheists", the OVERWHELMING percentage just haven't found their niche, whether they are looking for it or not.
Enculturated or not, it is a reality.
The crazies on here will feel those unaffiliated are on their side, that they are winning a war.
Right, we will all take notice of a religious blog

That’s almost as screwy as davesworld imagination

“MEET ROSEMARY-She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#128615 Oct 9, 2012
Double Fine wrote:
<quoted text>
Yo
Methinks she was looking at it from the rapist's POV
Think of it this way: Although she MAY, you won't send your teen daughter out in the street, to walk in the most dangerous part of town at night. Yes, the law is on her side, but best not do anything stupid.
What me and Christine is saying is YES, you have freedoms and liberties. But use them responsibly.
People like Aura somehow twists that message, one of just exercising one's rights responsibly into some kind of anti-American rhetoric. But I think you understand it a bit better
.. haven't formed an opinion in this debate, trying to find a comparison. Let's try this:

.. a pedophile in America films the rape of a child.(s)He is arrested and found guilty of an illegal act based on law ..

.. a director produces an anti-Mohammed film in Iran.(s)He is arrested and found guilty of an illegal act based on law ..

.. Iran may ignore the rape of a 12-year-old girl, America the filming of an anti-Mohammed film ..

.. so, what's the solution ??..

“There's a feeling I get...”

Since: Jun 11

...when I look to the West

#128616 Oct 9, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes but that study wasn't done on the public, but on scientists. so...
Read your piece again.

It compared a figure of scientists who believes in evolution with non-scientists believing in evolution.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#128617 Oct 9, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
Right, we will all take notice of a religious blog
That’s almost as screwy as davesworld imagination
No, you wouldn't take notice.

Did you read the part of the atheists groups wanting ti use this as a political advantage?

Poor Christine, just a puppet with delusions of grandeur.

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Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#128618 Oct 9, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> No DF I have not twisted anything , merely stated it is a right to express yourself. I agree the film was a bad idea , but
the response was off the scale of what is acceptable.
It is not the freedom to express yourself that is at fault, nor the filmmaker for doing so(barring any laws broken in making the film) but it is unacceptable to murder someone because I didn't like it, and unacceptable to America (or me) that someone would.
.. perhaps the movie had nothing to do with the murders and was used as a convenient excuse to kill infidels ??..

“There's a feeling I get...”

Since: Jun 11

...when I look to the West

#128619 Oct 9, 2012
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. haven't formed an opinion in this debate, trying to find a comparison. Let's try this:
.. a pedophile in America films the rape of a child.(s)He is arrested and found guilty of an illegal act based on law ..
.. a director produces an anti-Mohammed film in Iran.(s)He is arrested and found guilty of an illegal act based on law ..
.. Iran may ignore the rape of a 12-year-old girl, America the filming of an anti-Mohammed film ..
.. so, what's the solution ??..
Very good point.

I think the difference here is what constitutes a basic human right.

Rape violates the human rights of the victim. No argument there.

But sending out an anti-Islamic (or anti-Christian, anti-Hindu or whatever) message, statement, book or film, is not considered a violation of human rights.

Hope that makes sense?

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#128620 Oct 9, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
I thought it was funny
You liked my invisible flying Japs joke?

“Ditat Deus”

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#128621 Oct 9, 2012
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. haven't formed an opinion in this debate, trying to find a comparison. Let's try this:
.. a pedophile in America films the rape of a child.(s)He is arrested and found guilty of an illegal act based on law ..
.. a director produces an anti-Mohammed film in Iran.(s)He is arrested and found guilty of an illegal act based on law ..
.. Iran may ignore the rape of a 12-year-old girl, America the filming of an anti-Mohammed film ..
.. so, what's the solution ??..
Understanding acceptable differences in all cultures.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#128622 Oct 9, 2012
Double Fine wrote:
<quoted text>
Very good point.
I think the difference here is what constitutes a basic human right.
Rape violates the human rights of the victim. No argument there.
But sending out an anti-Islamic (or anti-Christian, anti-Hindu or whatever) message, statement, book or film, is not considered a violation of human rights.
Hope that makes sense?
Double Fine said it better than the Redneck....

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