Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#128373 Oct 8, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>I really hope you are a troll.
While I shouldn't even dignify you with a response, I will tell you that your outright hatred for gay people is disgusting, and your contempt for atheists is equally repulsive. Didn't your god tell you to judge not? 50 years ago people like you were using similar arguments against the civil rights movement. And no, I don't want everyone in the world to be an atheist, I just want our government to be as secular as it was intended to be. We are not a theocracy, or at least we should not be. The beliefs of the majority should not be forced on the minority. If I were ever to entertain the idea of running for public office, I should not have to pretend that I love some imaginary fairy in the sky.
As for the last part, about the age of the earth, I don't even know what to say to that. Your ignorance, no, your stupidity, is at a level that I didn't think was possible. I don't even need to address your ridiculous claim about supernovas (which actually occur once every 50 years) to prove you wrong. We know the speed of light, and we can see objects that are much, much farther away than 7k light years. Or are you on of those shining lights of intelligence that thinks the speed of light has slowed down?
Gate Keeper is a troll. Same poster as Sir Doc 1-1000, Martina Naratilova and various other takes on Happy Lesbo.

He's a miserable wretch who hates life so much, he comes on here to share his misery. His deep and abiding concerns are about how pedophilia shaped his life - I keep telling him, it wasn't his fault.

Sad, sad person.

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#128374 Oct 8, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Replace every mention of homosexuals with "black people, the black agenda, etc," and perhaps you will gain some insight into what a backwards bigot you are.
I'm not holding my breath, though.
Can we replace those words with "white trash" or "white ghost" instead?

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#128375 Oct 8, 2012
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
Gate Keeper is a troll. Same poster as Sir Doc 1-1000, Martina Naratilova and various other takes on Happy Lesbo.
He's a miserable wretch who hates life so much, he comes on here to share his misery. His deep and abiding concerns are about how pedophilia shaped his life - I keep telling him, it wasn't his fault.
Sad, sad person.
He's my wittle boi and I'm very pwoud of him. When he was neutered, he stopped whining after 4 weeks. He stopped licking after 12 weeks. He stopped trying to hump the neighbor's Bull Mastiff after the third attempt and 77 stitches.

Hims my wittle boi.

“Jesus is Love”

Since: Jul 12

Hutchinson, MN

#128376 Oct 8, 2012
Gate Keeper 1 wrote:
<quoted text>...she is gay and gays are designed to try to create separation of religious groups, so they can attack our core base.
Not only God, but the Christian God, and not the other god's they have to choose from.
Gays will be in Hell after their death. That's an important thing to remember.

I'm not tolerant of them , as you might can tell. Neither is God.

He forgives them if they repent, but He will throw them into Hell if they just keep on doing what they are doing.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#128377 Oct 8, 2012
Double Fine wrote:
<quoted text>
Helo there :)
Hope you are well!
You have topless weather ladies?
I gotta move to the US
We should, shouldn't we? But in the US, no way.

In this country they are trying to mandate that all children must be born wearing clothing.

Manufacturers are working on bath clothing, that allows the wearer to clean themselves as well as if they were nude.

Breast feeding already is considered lewd and lascivious behavior and will very soon be considered as sexual abuse of a child.

Vaginal delivery of infants will soon be illegal.

As long as the religitatards have a voice here, these absolutely normal activities, will remain in the nasty sinful (and therefore must be curtailed) corner.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#128378 Oct 8, 2012
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>lulz. You people and your silly ideas.
This wasn't my idea, read back a few pages. The Christain god was claimed to be storms.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#128379 Oct 8, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
Iím not sure the general public would agree with you. No need for it to be on primetime TV, have you considered the children?
If you want naked then there are plenty of sites on the internet.
And can you really say that you would take any notice of the news?
Nudity is normal. Nudity is not sexual. Sex is sexual.

“The Intrepid”

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#128380 Oct 8, 2012
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Nudity is normal. Nudity is not sexual. Sex is sexual.
Righto! That must be why Hugh Hefner is so rich...because nudity isn't remotely sexual to men.

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#128381 Oct 8, 2012
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
He's my wittle boi and I'm very pwoud of him. When he was neutered, he stopped whining after 4 weeks. He stopped licking after 12 weeks. He stopped trying to hump the neighbor's Bull Mastiff after the third attempt and 77 stitches.
Hims my wittle boi.
Sounds like you got him all controlled, well done!

“Formerly "Richard"”

Since: Mar 12

In the beginning e=mc^2

#128382 Oct 8, 2012
Just Results wrote:
<quoted text>
Gays will be in Hell after their death. That's an important thing to remember.
I'm not tolerant of them , as you might can tell. Neither is God.
He forgives them if they repent, but He will throw them into Hell if they just keep on doing what they are doing.
So you and your so called god are bigots.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#128383 Oct 8, 2012
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>This wasn't my idea, read back a few pages. The Christain god was claimed to be storms.
NO really? What was the context of that post? If you are referring to the one by me then it should be easy to figure out, for at the end of the comment that I made about "god" and storms, I said that god must be afraid of storms.
Way to pay attention.

Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#128384 Oct 8, 2012
Judge not lest yee be judged.
Just Results wrote:
<quoted text>
Gays will be in Hell after their death. That's an important thing to remember.
I'm not tolerant of them , as you might can tell. Neither is God.
He forgives them if they repent, but He will throw them into Hell if they just keep on doing what they are doing.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#128385 Oct 8, 2012
Dave Nelson wrote:
http://www.viewzone.com/Fear-O f-Death.html
Gary Vey gets on the sensational side, and misses some things, but comes up with interesting things to think about.
LISTEN UP YOU ATHEISTS!!!!!!!
YOU ARE ALL GOING TO HELL!!!!
YOU ARE GOING TO BURN FOREVER!!!
IN ETERNAL AGONY YOU CAN'T ESCAPE!!!!
YOU ARE DOOMED!!!!
Not even. That's pure silly and you know it too.

“cdesign proponentsists”

Since: Jul 09

Pittsburgh, PA

#128386 Oct 8, 2012
Givemeliberty wrote:
Judge not lest yee be judged.
<quoted text>
god must be resting, again; and the fundies get to take over for god during his rest. If they say, you are damned to hell; it is like god said it himself.

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#128387 Oct 8, 2012
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Not even. That's pure silly and you know it too.
Just let him know that there is no such thing as hell not even in the Bible.
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/GatesOfHell.ht...
"As we can see, after 350 years of saying Jonah was in "hell," the New King James finally admitted he wasn't there after all. He was in Sheol, like everyone else who has died. Many people have come out of the grave. The Bible is full of examples"
It is a bit of TLDR.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#128388 Oct 8, 2012
TheBlackSheep wrote:
<quoted text>
Here's a simple observation for you. You are either a muslim or you wish your were. You are a bigot; you hate all christians and anyone who does not love the muslims. muslims and christians are the same. Some are horrible people and some not some, not so much.
Hereís another simple observation, you guess a lot.

You guess all this because I expect people to be responsible for their own actions? How clever of you, I didnít realise that was an anti christian stance.

If I wanted to be a Muslim I could very easily convert to become a Muslim. In the UK (as I believe there is in the US) there is ample opportunity and freedom of religion is important, I suppose more to you than me because it is written into the US constitution.

I personally donít hold with the idea of gods and prophets. I am more one for logic and fact so no religion would suit me. I have faith in people not groups and I do not hate christians, I dislike some christians, usually the more hard line funnymentalists and blood lust freaks. That does not limit itself to any particular religion though, I dislike funnymentalism, radicalisation and violence in anyone. If in your opinion that denotes bigotry then so be it. I donít actually care much for your opinion anyway.

That is what I have been saying all along, yes the majority are the same, they just want to get on with their lives without some pratt sticking a gun up there butts and pulling the trigger.

It seems that the main difference between us is that I expect people to be responsible for their own actions, you expect everyone to be responsible except Americans

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#128389 Oct 8, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>An apologist site, that gets it's info from other apologist sites.
Now you go after the site. Fact being it is all over the internet.
Here is an example of the wonderfully hilarious self deception that one of the "sources" engages in:
"Is the inscription authentic? The court held only that the prosecution failed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the inscription was a forgery. But it surely did not find that the inscription was authentic. I have no doubt, however, that it is."
If it is not a forgery then it is authentic.
And that was the closest anyone came to a positive statement of the inscriptions history. It is not authentic, just not proven beyond a reasonable doubt to be fake. But the headlines won't tell you this, no, they read as if they is no doubt at all as to it's authenticity.
How do you not see this stuff? It's like if someone agrees with you, no matter how flimsy their reasoning or how far fetched their logic, you just take it and run with it. And anything that might damage your god belief is completely ignored.
Methinks you are enslaved to your atheism which blinds you to reality.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#128390 Oct 8, 2012
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Nudity is normal. Nudity is not sexual. Sex is sexual.
Yes I agree but civilised behaviour has its dictates. There are extremes out there, perverts and religious nuts who get either sexually aroused or drop to there knees and pray. You can encounter both on these very pages.

Last week I watched a repeat of a program ďMy Breast and IĒ with Jenny Frost. She concluded the documentary in New York where public nudity is not illegal. The complains by christians and the goggle eyes of the gawkers said it all.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#128391 Oct 8, 2012
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah, they're all equally out there.
That would be my assessment , all mainstream Abrahamic religions are equally based on some sort of biblical mythology. I see no need to demonize one over the other, doing that is only politically motivated. AKA: Propaganda

Since: Jun 12

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#128392 Oct 8, 2012
scaritual wrote:
The Ermitage Papyrus.
I feel the need to point out that the information I did find concerning the 'Ermitage Papyrus", included sites that are "end times" "axis swap", and world cataclysm >in the future and in the past>.
On much shakier ground is a claim by Dr. Paul Schliemann, grandson of the famous Heinrich Schliemann, that among other relics relating to Atlantis he discovered an Egyptian papyrus in the Hermitage at Leningrad which said: "Pharoah Sent sent out an expedition to the west in search of Atlantis from whence 3350 years before the Egyptians arrived carrying with themselves all the wisdom of their native land.(Schliemann, 1912)
This papyrus has never been seen by anyone else, so it remains in limbo. Had Schliemann used the term "Land of the West" instead of "Atlantis" it would be a little more believable. However, I did find that there actually was a pharoah with the unlikely name Sent. Pharoah Sent, or Senta, was the fifth king of the 2nd Dynasty who ruled approximately 4000 B.C.(Budge, 1960)" http://www.wendag.com/forum/showthread.php/42...
"In Worlds in Collision, Velikovsky wrote, "This papyrus bewails the terrible devastation wrought by the upheaval of nature. In the Ermitage Papyrus [Petersburg 1116b recto] also, reference is made to a catastrophe that turned the 'land upside down; happens that which never (yet) had happened.' It is assumed that at that time ~ in the second millennium ~ people were not aware of the daily rotation of the earth, and believed that the firmament with its luminaries turned around the earth; therefore, the expression,'the earth turned over,' does not refer to the daily rotation of the globe."55
The Ermitage Papyrus (1116B recto) containing Neferrohu's prophecy, quoted earlier and above, also declares, "I show thee the land upside down; that happens which never happened before. Men shall take up weapons of war; the land lives in uproar. All good things have departed."
http://www.henryzecher.com/papyrus_ipuwer.htm
Fringe "woo woo", in other words. I don't think it helps the biblical claims.
Monolith of El-Arish.
"In the 19th Century, archeologists discovered a piece of black granite in El Arish, Egypt (a town found in the Sinai). The locals were using the granite as a watering trough. When archeologists first came across it, they noticed the hieroglyphic carvings all over it. While the text was for the most part destroyed on one side, there were other parts that were still legible .
It would appear that this was a kind of monolith. Some researchers hold that it was erected just ahead of Persia‚&#128;&#153;s invasion of the area in 525 BC. Other researchers believe the monolith4 to date sometime during the period of Ptolemaic rule (305-30 BC) over Egypt5.
(...)Arguments persist that this is nothing more than a metaphor or ancient folklore. Adding to some of the discord is that a good portion of the inscription has been worn away over time or is just indeterminate." http://www.christianevidences.org/el-arish-in...
These last two references you've supplied do not appear to relate to the "Exodus", in any way.
You're hurting your case.
Some make the connect. i would point out the obvious connections between Exodus and Ipuwer is rejected based on dating only a few understand who probably have the bible down as fictional until proven factual. The two camps assume different time lines. The Hyskos were the biblical Amelekites. Ermitage is about some catastrophe which happened years ago. If the revisionists were wrong about David why should we assume they are right about Moses and the Exodus?

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